ELLISON'S DOUBLE-TALK
According to Keith Ellison:
"Too many people would divide us, when we need to be united against discrimination, bigotry, and hate." Source: Keith Ellison's campaign website.
If we need to be united against bigotry and hate, why then did Ellison coordinate the Nation of Islam's Million Man March for Minnesota?
Ellison appeared with Khalid Abdul Muhammed at an organizing rally at the University of Minnesota. Muhammed said, "I'm sorry. I'm just hard on the white man. I was born to give this cracker hell from cradle to the grave." Source: Star Tribune, September 14, 1995
Before tomorrow's event at the DFL Party booth, Ellison should apologize.
"Too many people would divide us, when we need to be united against discrimination, bigotry, and hate." Source: Keith Ellison's campaign website.
If we need to be united against bigotry and hate, why then did Ellison coordinate the Nation of Islam's Million Man March for Minnesota?
Ellison appeared with Khalid Abdul Muhammed at an organizing rally at the University of Minnesota. Muhammed said, "I'm sorry. I'm just hard on the white man. I was born to give this cracker hell from cradle to the grave." Source: Star Tribune, September 14, 1995
Before tomorrow's event at the DFL Party booth, Ellison should apologize.
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I was watching Minneapolis public access tv one night and Ellison was telling a group of young black students that the Capitol was built to keep (not exactly sure of the wording here, but this is pretty close to what he said) people like us (refering to the people in the room, all of whom were black) out.
I've been to the Capitol several times. Doors seem pretty wide open to everyone from what I've seen.
Ah…but remember, the DFL is nothing without victims.
It’s not my fault I’m poor; it’s not my fault I’m fat; it’s not my fault I don’t have a job; it’s not my fault I don’t have any education; it’s not my fault my kids are undisciplined! Someone, please help save me from the evil (insert noun here)’s oppression!
Liberalism: the haunting fear someone, somewhere, can help themselves.
It's not my fault they didn't have Weapons of Mass Destruction...It's not my fault the national debt is growing out of control... It's not my fault I'm on vacation half the year... It's not my fault oil prices are out of control and energy lobbyists wrote the recent energy bill... It's not my fault the economy sucks and consumer confidence is going down.. Blame the Democrats they control Washington... oh wait we control the White House and Congress.. dang... It's not my fault that we preach morality and responsiblity, but never practice it... it's those gulf war moms and gay marriage people that are destroying our country...
It's not my fault they didn't have Weapons of Mass Destruction...
How quickly we forget that we were not the only country who suspected that they had WMD…how quickly we forget that the information wasn’t determined to be suspect until AFTER the invasion…how quickly we forget that many DFL members voted for the war. And while weapons my not yet have been found, remember we are looking in a sandbox the size of Wisconsin. Every try to find your sons/daughters toys they buried at the beach? Add to it the vast amounts of money Hussein had to make deals with to move them, perhaps to another country, and I think we might still find something. Even if we did, can you honestly tell me that the world would be a better place with Hussein still in power?
It's not my fault the national debt is growing out of control...
How quickly we forget that wars cost money…but the price that we are paying now vs. wagging the war on our own soil is, is priceless.
It's not my fault I'm on vacation half the year...
Give it a rest already, will you? Being President is a 24/7 job. Even when he is on “vacation” he is still working.
It's not my fault oil prices are out of control and energy lobbyists wrote the recent energy bill...
Oil prices are out of control due to speculation on the price of oil…there is no reason why the price of oil should be as high as it is…and, I would like to mention, that the price of gas/energy here is STILL a bargain compared to just about anywhere else in the world. Ever fill up your tank in Germany?
It's not my fault the economy sucks and consumer confidence is going down…
Nice try, it took a MINOR dip in July,
http://www.conference-board.org/economics/consumerConfidence.cfm
“This month’s decline (July) in Consumer Confidence is no cause for concern,” says Lynn Franco, Director of the Conference Board’s Consumer Research Center. “The overall state of the economy remains healthy and consumers’ outlook suggests no storm clouds on the short-term horizon. Even the steady upward tick of fuel prices at the pump has done relatively little to dampen consumers’ spirits. Yet, while there is little to suggest a downturn in activity, there is also little to suggest a pickup.”
Blame the Democrats they control Washington...
The only think I blame the Democrats in power on is alarming people about thinks that are bogus, like claiming that the economy sucks.
Oh wait we control the White House and Congress.
And this is a good thing!
It's not my fault that we preach morality and responsibility, but never practice it...
Really? Example please?
It’s those gulf war moms and gay marriage people that are destroying our country...
I don’t remember hearing anyone of importance (other than that religious whacko Robertson.) saying any of this…but I do find humor in your bringing up the question of morality followed by a comment on gay marriage…
Well the fact is they didn't have WMD's. There is no proof they ever had WMD's. Israel's strike of their nuclear plant made even the thought of it incredibly unlikely. The President knew they didn't have WMD's, but used it as a sorry excuse to convince people to support this ill conceived and planned war.
You are right Wars cost money, but that doesn't explain tax cuts to the wealthy? Or tax breaks to the Oil companies? Or to bash Democrats for spending, when Bush is creating the largest debt in history. To have the Republicans claim fiscal responsiblity on the federal level is nothing but sick joke.
As for a vacation, ask nearly anyone if they get that much vacation where they work or if they think it is appropriate and they will tell you no. When your an ex-president living him on the lam, sit at home and split wood and clear brush all you want, but when you are the President you have a job to do (and a war to get us the hell out of).
That's the funnist line the Republicans always say "fight them over there, so we don't have to fight them here". Remember 9/11 we don't choose where the hell they attack us, those nutballs will attack us anywhere they can. A war in Iraq doesn't do anything to prevent an attack in America. It also isn't an wonderful situation fighting them over there. Not knowing who is a terrorist or cilivian, being able to cross across the border easy, easy access to explosives and weapons, a population that doesn't want the US there and is more likely to hide the terrorist and a prime location for all the middle east countries to send their suicide bombers to.
Oil prices are going up because Bush and his cronies have refused to do any meaningful investment in alternative energy. He would rather keep his oil buddies happy then rock the boat and cut into their profits. His answer to all of this is to go drill in Alaska, so we can spend billions to drill up there, but at the end of the day it will still be cheaper to import oil then to produce it here. Oil companies are making insane profits, why do they need taxpayers dollars for more subsidies?
As for the economy, the experts can argue what they want, but people do not feel confident. The stock market is still not as high as around 9/11. Just look at the polls concerning W's handling of the economy, people are not happy.
As far as not preaching what they preach (morality and all that jazz), Mr. Norm Coleman is a prime example, he has had countless affairs and it makes me sick he put his kids in those lame TV ads. Then you have Rush the drug man. Newt is always a favorite and who can forget Rod Grams, oh yeah and good old rebel yell Strom. If you are preaching family values you should live them or else shut up and not use them to get elected.
As far as gay marriage it's just a ploy to win elections, we all know that. Sure there are some evangelicals out there that think the Republicans really care about this issue and don't realize it is just a campaign tool. They are the same ones that think Bush actually reads the Bible. Divide and conquer. If people voted with their pocket book, Republicans would be losing elections left and right.
Well the fact is they didn't have WMD's. There is no proof they ever had WMD's.
You are an idiot. Maybe you would like to tell that to the Kurds? Try looking up March 1988.
Perhaps you should also explain it to these people as well:
"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." -- From a letter signed by Joe Lieberman, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara A. Milulski, Tom Daschle, & John Kerry among others on October 9, 1998
Oh wait, it is only a lie if a Republican says it right?
Sipidation is my hero!
Well done, Sipidation! Thanks...I was looking for that letter too but you beat me to the punch!
Chemical Weapons are not WMD. Sure we know they had chemical weapons, heck we even got Rummy shaking Saddam's hand. We gave them tons of intelligence in the Iraq-Iran war. We didn't seem to have a problem with them then, when they were killing innocent people.
Maybe Bush's father, would like to tell the Kurds why he abadoned them after Gulf War I and let thousands of them be slaughtered?
He didn't care to do anything then, when he obviously had the military advantage and opportunity to do so.
The question is about nuclear material and from all the information that I have seen, they didn't have a very functional (if any) program at the time of the US invasion, unlike Iran and North Korea.
Chemical Weapons are not WMD.
Maybe the sky is different in your world.
Of course chemical weapons are WMD. They fit the very definition of WMD.
The "Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons" sure disagrees with you.
http://www.opcw.org/html/db/cwc/eng/cwc_frameset.html
What a ridiculous statement.
This seems like an opposition research Dump on Keith Ellison. Keith is my representative. I supported one of his opponents when he ran for the first time (Duane Reed). As long as Keith is in this district, he will have the seat. I've heard that Senator Higgins might be planning to run for county commissioner - and if she goes for county commissioner, Keith will go for State Senator. Then I heard that whoever loses the 5th ward city council race will run for Keith's seat.
Linda Higgins would not respond to my requests for comment.
ReaganBlows, you are truly a magnificent bloviator--one of the greats. I haven't heard anything so dogmatic since...well, since the last Howard Dean soundbite. Are you a true believer in Democrat talking points? You sound like it.
You guys can keep buying the spin on Iraq, but I think most Americans aren't buying into it. Our action in Iraq is a horrible foreign policy choice that will haunt us for decades. It is pretty clear that Iraq posed no greater threat to the US then any other country in the region. Nearly 2,000 dead and over 10,000 injured doesn't sound like they are "greating us as liberators" to me.
You guys can keep buying the spin on Iraq
You sound like Cindy Sheehan - everyone's brainwashed but her.
You guys can keep buying the spin on Iraq, but I think most Americans aren't buying into it.
It sounds to me that you are buying into the spin from the left, especially when you say that chemical weapons are not WMD!
It is pretty clear that Iraq posed no greater threat to the US then any other country in the region.
What does the left not understand about the post-9/11 world? Is that what you would want us to do - wait until a country poses a direct threat to us? As long as the will of our enemies to die is greater than our will to live I would prefer we face down gathering threats before they fully materialize.
And that's what Iraq was -- a gathering threat. We know Saddam was actively subverting the UN sanctions and the Oil-for-Food program and that he enticed enough foreign officials to his side that given a few more years he would have had support at the UN to lift sanctions and at that point many believed he was going to restart is nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs.
Of course, now he'll never have that chance, no thanks needed to the American left.
Iraq, unlike Iran, was not a gathering threat. Their army had low morale, old and outdated equipment, a small airforce of little use and what they did have they could not use due to the no fly zone.
Iran, North Korea and China are visable threats to our country and the focus should be on them, instead of spending billions of dollars and thousands of lives in Iraq.
Invading Iraq (and Abu Ghraib) unfortunately gave the terrorists a golden recruiting tool and a perfect senario in which to kill American troops.
Iran, North Korea and China are visable threats to our country and the focus should be on them, instead of spending billions of dollars and thousands of lives in Iraq.
You're not suggesting that we invade N. Korea or China, are you?
First of all, China only seems to be a current threat to Taiwan, and N. Korea citizens are so brainwashed from birth into thinking that the US is the evil empire, that Iraq would see like a walk in Central Park in comparison!
Exactly. The left mentions all these other countries that it thinks were a bigger threat, but can you imagine the fuss they would throw if the US invaded any of them? Iraq is a cakewalk compared to a war with China or North Korea.
But I digress. The left has done such a fabulous job of limiting the discussion of Iraq to 1) why we went and 2) how many Americans are being killed that they have effectively taken control of the Iraq issue. They have done a truly masterful job of cutting off the flow of positive news and driving public support down to the point where it may help them in the 2006 elections.
Congratulations to the American left. You've managed to further your own electoral prospects and aid terrorism at the same time. You guys must be proud.
"Maybe Bush's father, would like to tell the Kurds why he abadoned them after Gulf War I and let thousands of them be slaughtered?
He didn't care to do anything then, when he obviously had the military advantage and opportunity to do so."
But going in now and defending the weak by removing an evil regime is bad when in 1992 it would have been good? I'm confused.
the party opposite said...
What does the left not understand about the post-9/11 world? Is that what you would want us to do - wait until a country poses a direct threat to us? As long as the will of our enemies to die is greater than our will to live I would prefer we face down gathering threats before they fully materialize.
Shark.bait said...
You're not suggesting that we invade N. Korea or China, are you?
??? Which is it? Do we wait until they pose a direct threat or not?
ReaganBlows said...
Chemical Weapons are not WMD.
This is a silly statement.
The problem that I see here is that evidence of Iraqi wmd programs were offered up for the world to see as justification for invading Iraq. Most countries did not agree that there was sufficient evidence of this. We went into this war without international support and now we are stuck in a quagmire. We will be dumping money and lives into Iraq for years to come. I personally do not feel that attacking Iraq has made us any safer. In fact, it may have made things worse. These people were upset that we were imposing our military, beliefs and lifestyle on them. (Not much of an excuse for killing innocent people, but...) So we attack and take over a week country in the middle east that is one of the most non-secular countries in the region. I cannot see how this would discourage them and from the looks of what is going on it hasn't.
I think that we should look to the past. Look at Great Britain and France. They lost much of the terriorty that they once had due to overextending their resources. We could also learn something from our own past. Vietnam. When will we learn that you cannot change people overnight. Especially with force. Take China for example. We seldomly agree with China on anything and see them as a potential threat, however, over the years they have opened their markets (to some degree) and Chinese Citizens are getting a taste of the west. With diplomacy and market forces eventually China will become more democratic. Obviously this no answer for Iraq either before or after we invaded. Where we go from here? Can't say that I support an immediate withdrawal as this would put Iraq into a tailspin and would then certainly be a terrorist breeding ground. However, we really should pull out asap. We also should mend relationships with other countries. It would be nice if we were not bearing the brunt of this. But these are the choices that have been made by those with the "mandate" from the people, and we will have to live with it.
Abrogans said...
??? Which is it? Do we wait until they pose a direct threat or not?
N. Korea is not exactly what I would call a direct threat, and I certainly wouldn’t call China one.
While Korea MIGHT have nukes (I’m willing to bet that they have some untested nukes) they do not yet have the ability to hit us (at least not that they have been able to demonstrate). I would also like to point out Kim Jong II, and while he teaches his country’s kids, from birth, that he is basically “God”, he knows better than that in foreign affairs. He relies quite heavily in foreign aid to feed his people because he has spent much of his country’s resources to develop and maintain his military. NO ONE in the world, not even China, the closest thing that they can call an ally, would defend them if they attached us.
This brings me to China. While you are correct that China gets a taste of the west, there is little hope that they will ever truly go to a democratic government because the government has woven itself into every aspect of the country. Foreign investors, such as GM or Ford, who have decided to build factories over there, do so in partnership with the government. Diplomacy to change them, name one time that diplomacy alone as changed a government?
Market forces will change China? Right now China has such a strong hold on the EU and US that you have it backward…CHINA’S market forces dictate how WE do business. I speak on this with some authority, as I am a Global Buyer specializing in procurement out of the Far East, specifically CHINA. China was/is having such a large impact on the US dollar that we just had to get them to adjust how they valued their currency in order for us not to impose more tariffs and restrictions on what we import from them.
Now, the last think I want to touch on is your comment about us, ”imposing our military, beliefs and lifestyle on them.”.
First, our military is only there right now in an effort to help stabilize things while a new government is put in place, by the people of Iraq I would like to add. Imposing out beliefs? If you mean religious, then you are sadly mistaking. If you are referring to the belief in democracy, then you are correct, we are guiding them away from an oppressive dictatorship, like the one we suffered under with Britain ruled us, and we are replacing it with what the majority of the world sees as the best form of government, democracy.
Lastly, lifestyle…I’m sure that having better water treatment facilities, more reliable electricity and having the freedom to have whatever lifestyle they choose is sure a lot better then the fear and oppression that they suffered under Hussein.
I also want to point out the hypocrisy in your statements…on the one hand you say that the Chinese are getting a taste of the West, and yet you say that we are imposing that on Iraq and that is bad…so, I ask back at you, which is it?
There is no hypocrisy. It is simply how the foreign policies are implemented. China - we are not imposing ourselves upon them. They have invited us in. Iraq is quite a bit different situation. We invaded their country, toppled their dictator/government and killed innocent people (obviously unavoidable in an action like this). Two completely different situations from the outset and cannot be compared. My thoughts on China are losely based on modernization theory and feel that China will eventually become more democratic. It just may take a long time.
I just thought that the statement from the party opposite was a bit broad and should not be applied in all situations. Obviously, North Korea poses a bigger threat (as a nation) to us than Iraq ever did, but I am sure that all would agree that it would not be in our best interst to premptively attack N. Korea because we feel threatened by them.
First, our military is only there right now in an effort to help stabilize things while a new government is put in place
Do you really believe this? I personally do not see any end in sight any time soon. When I say soon, I mean years. Do you think that we will be removing all our forces even after things are stabilized? Hmmm... with Iran and Syria next door, I doubt it.
Imposing out beliefs? If you mean religious, then you are sadly mistaking
No, I did not mean religion at all.
Can democracy be forced upon a population? I don't think so. I think that it is something that evolves over time.
Yes, I do really believe that we are there, in mass, for only another year or two...after that, yes, we will still be there, but not in the numbers we are now.
I also don't feel like we are forcing democracy on the people, it seems that the people what this. As an example, one of the current sticking points in the constitution is the role women will have...while we might be encouraging them having an equal role, the true decision is theirs.
Well, today 3/20/2006, all of you especially John Jordan seem to have been mislead. The American people overwhelmingly want out and beleive we were mislead into this war with no plan. They also beleive the President is incompetent.
Mr Jordan and all, you owe Reagan Blows an apology or at least acknowledgement that the vast majority of Americans now believe as Cindy Sheehan stated and Howard Dean emphasized- we were lied to and are making things worse.
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