STRAW BALLOT SHENANIGANS IN SD 15?
I have been informed that Tinklenberg's supporters are incensed at the SD15 DFL for running a straw poll on the CD6 race. According to my source, no straw ballot was scheduled.
The results were reported here in the St. Cloud Times.
"Wetterling with 172 votes to Tinklenberg's 78 votes and 16 undecided in the Sixth Congressional District race."
Check back for further updates.
The results were reported here in the St. Cloud Times.
"Wetterling with 172 votes to Tinklenberg's 78 votes and 16 undecided in the Sixth Congressional District race."
Check back for further updates.
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There's no sugar coating this - Hatch performed very poorly in the caucuses - and performed under the expectations that his campaign was pushing.
And as far as that goes, when you are talking about Democrats winning in the general election, they need an energized Minneapolis in order to do that. If Hatch decides to run a bash Minneapolis campaign, it will backfire on him - and deservedly so.
It's not surprising that Wetterling does better than Tinklenberg in this district. Remember, this is where they just elected the very liberal Tarryl Clark in the special election.
Well, Lourey won the 8th and Mike won the 5th. Kelley won nothing. Are you saying that Kelley is going to win at the convention?
The straw poll in SD 15 was fair. El T.'s people were able to stop the one in Wright County and not this one.
John Wodele is about to pull a hat trick this year by sinking three campaigns at once: he's the manager over at Kelly Doran's, he's the senior advisor to Elwyn Tinklenberg and he's running the show for his wife re-election to Ramsey County Attorney's Office.
You Republicans got anything close to that?
Michael, I don't know how your GOP caucuses are, but the caucuses I've been to are truly democratic.
Anything can happen within a caucus room. In other words, if someone says, "We should vote on who we want to support for President in 08." They could have that vote, if a majority of people vote to have it. Honestly, it’s not pretty.
I have been in caucuses where informal straw polls have been conducted. I also been asked (In a very direct, pushy way) who I support for different offices when I have tried to run for delegate positions. In all of these cases you have the option to decline to answer or vote for "undecided." It’s all apart of the process.
Also, in the case of the 6th CD or SD 15 it would have been up to their central committee or executive committee here to decide what agenda items were going to happen in their precincts. From the looks of it, the SC Times misrepresented the straw poll results. They should have declared the source for the info and been more specific about what exact jurisdictions the report was coming from. They are famous for sloppy, lazy journalism.
The news reports immediately after the caucus are very important. Even if things are corrected in later days, it is that first news story (the one that lands on the front page) that people remember. It is very important that news outlets get it right.
The news reports after the caucus this year was terrible. The reliance on anecdotal reports is simply sloppy, deadline-driven journalism. It provides partisans with way too much ammunition. There is no way to get a complete picture on what is happening around the state in 4,000 different precincts by visiting just a few places.
In addition, the reporting of incomplete straw poll results, for example, is very misleading. We have no idea where the 13% of precincts that are yet unreported are. I would imagine they are in rural small, somewhat “unorganized” areas. The results could vary widely from the “50% of precincts reporting” stage to the “75% of precincts reporting” stage if those precincts are in one specific area.
All precincts are not comparable. Some had over 250 people turn out, some had five. In addition, each area is capped in the number of delegates they can send to the next level. So while some candidates garner exaggerated numbers in the straw poll (particularly in the 8th and 5th), those numbers do not necessarily translate into delegate strength. In 2004 over 10,000 of the 50,000 DFL caucus goers were in the city of Minneapolis. Thus, the straw poll results tend to be skewed towards extreme DFL areas and more liberal candidates.
When it’s all said and done one thing remains the same: Mike Hatch is STILL leading the race for governor according to all available indicators.
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