By comparasion, I see that Kennedy has associations that are under investigation for actually breaking the law and cheating our country during a time a war. I guess Mark Kennedy condones law breakers and tax cheats (which costs the rest of us working slobs). That’s the guy we want making laws? Naw.

Give you proof on recent events? You don’t know what happened on the Republican side to their gubernatoral candidate in 1990? You should then keep your dumbass mouth shut. I’ll throw you a bone: in 2002, Dick Borrell was elected to the state house as a republican from Delano. The former deputy admitted to basically date raping his nephews girlfriend. He was punished for it, but never lost his civil rights to own a gun or run for office. Which he did. He was such an embarassment (of course only after people found out about his past, you know you Republicans), that Sviggum and Paulsen themselves went to Delano to recruit someone else to run against him, Borrell was not endorsed again and that was the end of that.
I’ve told the Grunseth story too many times. It’s how we got Arne Carlson.

What else do you need some educating on? Oh by the way, 1/8 truth telling is what I thought you guys were about. I’m just speaking your language.

There are other issues in Keith’s legislative record that I have concerns about – his vote in favor of creationism is the vote I have the most problems with.

I’d have more problems with Keith Ellison with the Farrakhan issue if he was still involved with the NOI – and if he was organizing for the Millions More March.

There are many DFL politicians who deserve lots of criticism for the way the way they treat the gay community as an ATM and nothing else. Mike Hatch, Rebecca Otto, Matt Entenza, and Al Juhnke all deserve that rap.

Keith took a tough vote on behalf of the gay community, when he voted against the state contracts because the bill had taken the negotiated domestic partner benefits out of the contract. Most democrats voted for this bill.

Yeah, you never said that this was Ellison’s first Pride but you made it _sound_ like he suddenly was courting the gays. How is it a “extreme makeover”, that which is something he has consistently done (made an effort to reach out to the LGBT community)?

bobby_bs,
KE never met Louis F. Never. What stage did they stand on together? KE was NEVER a member of the Nation of Islam. Never. He belonged to a liberal Mosque. What values of the Nation of Islam did he push outside of demanding that black men stop some of the destructive behavior?

Surely with all of the researchers out there going into overtime on KE, there has to be a record of his being a member or even pushing the counter-culture values of the Nation. Where’s your proof? Even in politics, you need proof, or you can find yourself in court. Right republicans?

So, looks like Keith has always been on the correct side of history when it comes to GLBT rights and communicty.

When they start working for Robertson, cooperating with events that tout those statements and claim to be part of his group, then we’ll talk.

Ellison wasn’t just on the mailing list, he was an organizer, collaborator and participant with the Nation of Islam for years. This is indefensible.

Um, yeah, associate with Farrahkan for a long period, help push for his values, work towards his goals, in a stridently anti-gay organization, and there IS going to be a degree of guilt by association.

There’s also going to be a bit of disbelief; is, or was, KE’s stance toward gays a matter of political advantage, now or earlier? Did he really not hate gays in his Farrahkan days, or is he hiding his feelings now? Either way indicates a high degree of insincerity.

You use the term “guilt by association” in a manner that implies that, while KE might have once stood next to Farrahkan, he never really had anything to do with him. THAT’S what the pejorative use of the phrase means. It’s poorly used by you in this context. KE’s past associations truly do make him guilty.

How does the ‘makeover’ continue? Or, is this your opportunity to bring up more Farrahkan? I do get it, the more people read on Louis Farrahkan, the more they’re scared.

You got proof he never attended until last week? No you don’t. He’s already rebuked Louis Farrahkan. You got anything KEITH said? I didn’t think so. More of the same with you Brodkorb, guilt by association. You know Pawlenty was Grunseth’s campaign manager in 1990. Since Grunseth was a molester (and a Republican endorsed for Governor, imagine that), is that the reason Pawlenty has been so soft on sex offenders? Does he approve of 50 year old men and 14 year old girls skinney dipping and frolicing around? What about the fact that one of the girls was Grunseth’s step-daughter. I mean Tim Pawlenty, Pat Anderson (Awada), and Tim Commers were all senior staffers with this guy. We know where they are today.

You’ll be calling Ellison congressman soon, and your congressman that’s paying you will never be called Senator- or Congressman.

“[The] feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.”

-Fundraising letter from Pat Robertson that was an in- kind contribution to the Iowa Committee to Stop ERA, as reported in The Washington Post, August 23, 1993