And your source? Remember, this should show a huge chunk of funding from 527′s to Hatch. Huge is, let’s say, 75% of his funding?

Perhaps rich liberals give to political parties that support their ideals. Hard to imagine, I know. However, it has been implied that these donors somehow “control” the DFL. I have seen no proof for that, only unsupported claims.

Care to share some real facts?

I’d suggest you ask him. Personally, though, I doubt it.

As to exposure to certain political rhetoric causing problems for people:

// A [2003] study based on a series of seven US polls conducted from January through September of [2003] reveals that before and after the Iraq war, a majority of Americans have had significant misperceptions and these are highly related to support for the war in Iraq.

The polling, conducted by the Program on International Policy (PIPA) at the University of Maryland and Knowledge Networks, also reveals that the frequency of these misperceptions varies significantly according to individuals’ primary source of news. Those who primarily watch Fox News are significantly more likely to have misperceptions, while those who primarily listen to NPR or watch PBS are significantly less likely. //

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/international_security_bt/102.php?nid=&id=&pnt=102&lb=brusc

“follow the money”.

Where did Gore and Kerry (and now Hatch) get a huge chunk of their funding from? Big liberal donors and 527s.

That is a fact. Sorry if facts are not your friends. The sooner you deal with it, the sooner you might actually learn something.

Richie commented on great the activity was in Seattle. Well, he didn’t argue against the mahem and destruction. (which he easily could have)

What part of those facts don’t you believe?

Brian,

I honestly believe you better be wearing a lead suit and a tin foil hat before the radiation beams that Karl Rove has aimed at you through a super secret governmental program yet to be uncovered by the New York Times further penetrate your feeble little mind.

I suppose you do have one valid point though.

The behavior of the Neanderthal mob that assembled in Seattle could be explained as easily by the extended exposure to left wing “rhetoric” (examples of such as you’ve provided) as by drug use.

Maybe that bag of a**holes was simply having a Democrat moment.

So allow me to pose my question again, but perhaps more succinctly:

Does Richie support Anarchy, Communism or the complete absence of rational thought and action?

And yet you make absolutely no case to back that up.

Just because they have given the money to some 527 doesn’t mean they control the Democratic Party.

News flash: Democrats don’t march in line like Republicans.

And yes, Democrats are for the little guy. The guy who pays at the pump. The guy who gets sent to war. The guy who is trying to find a job. The guy who gets discriminated against. The guy who works for minimum wage. The guy whose job got Wal-Mart’ed.

My argument is that you morons claim to be for the little guy but your party is controlled by billionaires who have dumped tens of millions of dollars each into groups who are virtually unregulated — able to accept unlimited contributions. You questioned that fact and I gave you the names of the billionaires who are dumping millions and millions of dollars into Democrats. I gave you links of articles to prove that Democrats are beholden to billionaires.

Also, there is a difference between receiving hard dollars (like the Bush campaign and the RNC did) which are limited by federal law and being able to dump $24 million into Democrat controlled groups. Bush did not raise his money from billionaires $24 million at a time. And those Pioneers you mentioned raised their $100,000 from individual donors a couple of grand at a time subject to the FEC limits.

Doesn’t it bother you that billionaires are controlling your party, Brian? If you’re really the party of the little guy, shouldn’t you refuse dirty money from billionaires?

Thank you for pointing out my spelling mistake. I don’t usually make them. Brian, in addition to being the premier glittering jewel of colossal ignorance, you are an imbecile.

My argument is that you morons claim to be for the little guy but your party is controlled by billionaires who have dumped tens of millions of dollars each into groups who are virtually unregulated — able to accept unlimited contributions.

From your own quoted stories, which don’t back up your conclusion:

// Overall, pro-Democratic 527 organizations have raised at least $106.6 million, according to PoliticalMoneyLine, three times the $33.6 million raised by pro-Republican groups in this election cycle.

The Democratic advantage disappears, however, when these figures are added to the amounts raised by the national party committees and the presidential campaigns. Then the GOP pulls far ahead, $557.6 million to $393.6 million. //

Why didn’t Republicans give to 527s? Probably because Rove said no, and everyone obeyed like good little boys, that’s why.

// One mystery of the 527 groups is why Republicans have been so laggard in organizing them.
Independent analyst Stuart Rothenberg said last week, “The Democrats got a terrific head start.”

Mitchell provides one explanation. “For some reason, particularly true with this White House team, no one will make a move without a blessing from Karl (Rove) or (Bush campaign manager) Ken (Mehlman) or someone — and there is a specific prohibition on doing these 527s at the suggestion or request or after ‘material discussions’ with an agent of a candidate or party,” Mitchell said.

“So it’s a Catch-22. Republicans want to be asked by the very people for whom it is illegal to do the asking — and there is such an environment of top-down control on the Republican side that it freezes what should be Republican political entrepreneurs,” she said. //

So George Soros gave $24M. Big deal. So did the Bush supporters, directly to the Bush campaign in 2000.

// Francis ran the Bush 2000 campaign’s “Pioneer” program, which produced 246 men and women who each raised at least $100,000. PFA organizers sought out Francis because his close ties to the administration would have lent enormous clout and prestige. //

Your argument that Democrats give more than Republicans is disproven by your own quoted sources.

Your argument that Dems are controlled by billionaires is not proven. No evidence is given whatsoever.

Oh, and BTW, the word is not spelled “imbiscle”.

-plonk-

To even question that many, many billionaires haven given to Democrats proves my theory that you are the premier glittering jewel of colossal ignorance. It’s been in the news for years. But since you’re so uninformed, see below:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A24179-2003Nov10?language=printer

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2001988508_glaser26m.html

http://www.opensecrets.org/527s/527indivs.asp?cycle=2004

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A23283-2004Jun7.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5747838/

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/advertising/articles/2004/09/21/rich_activists_hoping_to_sway_voters_give_vast_sums_to_527s?mode=PF

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2003/12/08/national1618EST0655.DTL

If you’re not a complete imbiscle, you should be able to follow the point that I made.

First, he provides no proof of the presence of radicals or drug users.

Then, he makes the colossal blunder of assuming that the presence of those people implies anything about anyone else there.

Another baseless accusation from the right fails due to lack of proof and idiocy.

-plonk-

However, he fails to provide any evidence of such a conspiracy.

Nor does he compare the number and quantity of rich donors on the Republican and Democratic side.

In other words, he believes deeply in something, but has no idea how to prove it.

Another baseless accusation from the right fails due to lack of evidence.

>plonk

There were morons supporting several radical idealogies as well as your garden variety walking pharmacies involved in burning Seattle.

Does Ritchie support Anarchy, Communism, Hedonism, all of the above or does he just enjoy a bit of looting and arson for the fun in it?

You are proving out more and more each post that you are the premier glittering jewel of colossal ignorance (sorry Roving, you get second prize).

Billionaires like George Soros (of Securities Fraud fame), Rob Glaser (of Real Networks Fame — thank God I use Windows Media Player), Steve Bing (Hollywood Media Mogul), Haim Saban (of Power Rangers Fame), Peter B. Lewis (an insurance mogul), Steven Kirsch (InfoSeek founder) et al. have given millions and millions and millions of dollars to Democrats via both hard and soft and unregulated money.

Don’t lecture the rest of us about the Democrat Party being the party of the downtrodden after looking at the current cast of billionaires running the show.

MN Politics Guru, if Ritchie doesn’t like and agree with commies, maybe he shouldn’t submit his shit to their newspapers. That’s a pretty simple problem to solve.

Once again, you people prove that the Democrats have the perfect mascot for their party.

The arguemnts used here are black and white. Either you support the WTO or you are a filthy communist. Either you support the WTO or you support violence. Either you stay a home and watch the official story on TV, or you a dangerous left-wing wacko China-lovin’ communista.

Dave (another anonymous poster, apparently afraid to post under his real name) claims Republicans donate more small donations than Democrats. But of course, he presents no proof.

The “communist boogeyman” is still hiding under the bed for a lot of these right wingers. No doubt there were many a night they were terrified that the Russians were going to drop the big one.

The spectacle of McCarthyism isn’t dead by a long shot: public ridicule of anyone questioning the government is clearly the activity of choice amoung the corporate- controlled media, right-wing bloggers, and their hangers-on.

I think the important thing to remember here is that America is a land of freedoms, and if we lose those, we lose America itself. Doesn’t matter if they are squelched under a Republican or a Democrat – when they are lost, they are likely lost for good.

Who can we elect that will reinforce our Constitutionally guaranteed freedoms here in Minnesota?

Who can we elect that will put pressure on to get our National Guardsmen (very much overextended) back home?

Who can we elect that will really focus on our true national security needs: first responders, coordination between agencies, emergency response, antiviral stockpiles, border patrol, crime prevention, energy independence?

This farce of calling Ritchie unfit because he’s a commie is ridiculous, not just because it is painfully juvenile, but because it misses the important issues before America today.

Without studying someone’s past history there’s no way of knowing what their future actions are likely to be. It’s not like Richie flirted with communism in the 50′s, this is his recent history. It’s what he is all about today. And that’s not a smear, it’s relevent.

“We should be talking about what their vision for the future is and whether that’s right for America.”

Are you suggesting that communism is “right for America”? That appears to be the candidate for General Secretary’s vision.

But I think we need to discuss if Ritchie is a supporter of violent leftist organizations. Or even non-violent leftist groups. If the Republicans endorsed someone who is thought to have ties to a right wing para-military group, I would want to know have it discussed now.

This is a case that I feel is important to discuss. Is Ritchie a supporter of violent leftist groups? Or even non-violent leftist organizations? If the Republicans endorsed someone who was thought to be a supporter of a right wing para-military organization, I would want to know and have a discussion about it.

Thank you for proving my point.

All I saw bunch of spoiled white kids burning businesses in Seattle. But I guess they are just like Rosa Parks.

“and a $10,000 minimum donation at the table right inside the front flap”

You may want to do some research and see what the average donation is to Democrats vs Republicans.

So being a leader in this —

“new path, one leading towards a just and truly sustainable system of global governance and world peace”

— is a “smear campaign”? He should be proud of his communist beliefs.

Conservatives have been mocked by lefty loonies for calling them “commies”. The truth is, we’ve been right. Libs like Richie are just starting to feel more comfortable in their commie skin now that the lunatic left owns the DFL.

RICHIE FOR ULTIMATE LEADER!

There was some violence on the preiphery of what was otherwise a terribly important message. People like you who support the subjugation of others can try to distract discussion by focusing on the violence, but the rest of us see each of these movements for what they actually are. The people breaking free from tyrany and taking a stand for equal rights.

If you want to know why the poor and minorities are not very well represented in your party, it is because your big tent has a whites only sign on the door, and a $10,000 minimum donation at the table right inside the front flap.

Mark Ritchie said “I hope I will be able to look back someday soon and be able to say that this Battle in Seattle helped jolt the world onto a new path”.

It seems to be that he supports the rioting a distruction. What do you think he meant by “the Battle in Seattle”?

The reason they have to limit access to events is because your side is full of rude asses. I’ve been to various political events over the years where Democrats showed up to try to shout down the speaker. Have you ever been to a Democratic event where several Republicans showed up to try to shout over the speaker?

If you have proof of that, bring it.

Otherwise, I encourage you and your candidates to campaign on the idea that a government free from dissent or constitutional protection runs better. George Bush never speaks to an audience that may disagree with what he is about to say, and he sets up protest zones to make sure that he never has to see any dissent when he whisks from his car to his destinations. Our civil liberties are being erroded at the altar of the nebulous “Homeland Security” and the very freedoms that make up the fabric of this nation are being shredded by republican greed.

If you think this is a winning topic for your side, by all means, keep running it up the flag pole. I bet you will be surprised by how few people salute.

Yep, in 1948 Humphrey kicked the communists out of the Minnesota Democratic party. I’ll look back at 2006 and say “they’re back”.

That’s what DFL and Labor endorsed Ritchie supports.

I am anxious to see if Ritchie has the sense to get out in front of his radical, Communist problems or if he will sit back and let them consume his campaign like Ellison and Entenza to the point where these issues destroy his candidacy.

Are you going to step up to the plate Stalin?

Also, what makes you think this will drive anyone away from him as a candidate? Ihe republicans who enjoy the benefits of opressive labor and environmental practices in poor countries brought about by WTO practices probably weren’t going to vote for him anyway.