Comments on: MN GOP: INDEPENDENT LEADER TIM WALZ SUPPORTS GAY MARRIAGE

By: Brian Hanna

Brian Hanna — Sun, 30 Jul 2006 21:32:05 +0000

Chris: // losing issue //

No, Chris, I said it was a divisive issue, which could possibly translate into a winning issue for Republicans.

I also said most Minnesotan’s didn’t want it in the constitution, said we already had a law for it, and said it would be divisive.

By: Chris

Chris — Sun, 30 Jul 2006 15:18:15 +0000

If that’s true Brian, then don’t say it’s a losing issue for Republicans (which is what you and Roving Reporter have both said). You cannot have it both ways.

By: Brian Hanna

Brian Hanna — Sun, 30 Jul 2006 07:57:09 +0000

OK, Chris, I’m going to crack open my secret copy of the Karl Rove playbook, to Chapter 1, page 1. Just because I like you.

On that page, in a spidery handwriting in what looks like brownish-red ink, embellished by candlewax drippings, is written:

Super-secret Formulae for Electioneering
Divisive = Motivating = Votes = Winning

By: Jamie

Jamie — Sun, 30 Jul 2006 05:11:29 +0000

Brian,
Despite your sarcasm Rove did say people are less transigent than they make themselves out to be once they’re inside the poll booth. That may mean the same voters who passed the 1998 DOMA may clarify our constitution on this issue if given the chance to vote on a ballot.
It’s an issue now simply because moderates on both sides realize a stable budget is best and there is less to argue about in general which allows time for social issues.
Regards,
Jamie

By: Chris

Chris — Sun, 30 Jul 2006 02:20:06 +0000

Brian,

How is it that 3 in 1 Minnesotans are against the marriage amendment but at the same time it’s a winning issue? Perhaps 3 in 1 Minnesotans aren’t against the marriage amendment at all.

By: Brian Hanna

Brian Hanna — Sun, 30 Jul 2006 01:35:22 +0000

Most Minnesotans oppose putting this discrimination into the constitution.

And they said 2-1 that we already have such a law, and 3-1 that it could be a divisive issue, detracting us from other, more important issues.

http://www.mngopwatch.com/archives/2006/03/403/

But then, it isn’t what Minnesotans want that’s important to the Republicans. It’s what’ll win elections.

And a divisive issue is just what Karl Rove ordered.

By: Chris

Chris — Sat, 29 Jul 2006 21:23:50 +0000

Roving, I think you doth protest too much. If the issue is a winner for the Democrats, then they should put it on the ballot. But, alas, it is not so don’t pretend it is.

By: Jamie

Jamie — Sat, 29 Jul 2006 17:59:22 +0000

RR and Dwight,

How are republicans hatemongerers?
How is voting on a Defense of Marriage constitutional ammendment which the House approved and the Senate didn’t this year (thanks to supposedly socially conservative Dean Johnson and his democrats who constitute the majority in the senate) intrusive or prying? Can’t we vote on it? Don’t states have the right to put items on the ballot and pass laws?
RR – we got a vote of a small committee not the senate floor. Why? Because Dean Johnson is majority leader that’s why.
If we want to be a socially conservative state can’t we be?
Walz’s position contradicts current MN law, the 1998 DOMA

Regards,
Jamie

By: Roving Reporter

Roving Reporter — Sat, 29 Jul 2006 03:28:32 +0000

Hey Chris. What is Dean Johnson supposed to do? Ignore the committee that voted it down, and bring it to the floor, where it would lose again, and then magically will it onto the ballot?

Your hatemongers got their vote. They lost.

Isn’t it time to move on?

By: Eva Young

Eva Young — Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:47:49 +0000

Oh gee, Carey is trying to run with the Michele Bachmann playbook. Good for Tim Walz for having some courage of his conviction. That’s refreshing for a democrat.

By: Chris

Chris — Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:13:58 +0000

Roving, if 98% of the state is in favor of gay marriage, then why was Dean Johnson scared Shitless to put the issue on the ballot this November? If you have your finger on the pulse of Minnesota, then isn’t DOMA a losing issue for Republicans and putting it on the ballot will drive people friendly to the DFL to the polls?

The answer, alas, is that Roving is full of shit.

By: Roving Reporter

Roving Reporter — Sat, 29 Jul 2006 00:38:22 +0000

Oh SNAP!

The xenophobe republican fringe who never would have voted for him still won’t. Whatever will he do?

I am pretty sure he wasn’t counting on Bachmann republicans to carry the district. The other 98 percent of Minnesotans will suffice.

By: Brian Hanna

Brian Hanna — Fri, 28 Jul 2006 23:47:33 +0000

There is no reason in the world gays and lesbians should not have the right to be married.

The government has no business in the bedroom or deciding who can and who cannot get married.

By: huh

huh — Fri, 28 Jul 2006 22:05:33 +0000

Holy shit, did Walz really say this?

Usually Dem’s just say the are against gay marriage and current law prohibits this.
But support gay marriage?

Nice knowing you Mr. Walz. At least it
was a short campaign.

By: Dwight

Dwight — Fri, 28 Jul 2006 21:30:49 +0000

“So I’m pretty consistent on that, of where government should not be in our lives.”

And the Big Gummint GOP is pretty consistent on that too, of where they want gummint prying into the most private part of our lives. How sad that you people feel so threatened by gay marriage. And what is your reason to deny gays marriage, Michael?

By: G. Gordon Liddy

G. Gordon Liddy — Fri, 28 Jul 2006 21:21:40 +0000

Walz really screwed up.