San, please… try to know at least a little bit about what the hell you’re talking about before commenting. Just a smidgen.

Delay chopped up Texax in 2002. Which is why the case went to the Supreme Court. You know what that is right?

He re-drew the lines in an unconstitutional manner. Districts are re-drawn ever 10 years to follow the census. It was done in 2000 and then 2002.

Why do you think there were a Supreme Court case about, because he fucking broke the law.

You are right about the Democrats drawing them up previously, there is nothing wrong with that. But they did it in accordance with the law.

Again, you are a moron and need to come back when you know what is actually going on in this country.

The K-Street project is the major reason the Democrats are trying to pass ethics re-forms.

Please at least try to be informed when you post here. Fucking Morons. Do you even read the news, pass by The Drudge Report ever.

Second – Majority rule always uses procedural moves to keep the minority from enacting changes to legislation. And yes the Republicans were doing this. Where the hell do you think the Demoracts got the idea to not involve the Republicans in new legislation.

Forth – Ending the fillibuster in an scenerio is encroachment on the minority right. Sorry, big word for you.

-Though being reasonable, as smart people are, I will say the minoirty was trying to force its rule on the majority. Which is reason why they thought the Nuclear Option should have been put in place.

Third – Clever insult on my screen name…Where did you go to college St.Cloud State?

Do you understand logic what so ever?

“Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.” This is a refernce to how Republicans have conducted themselves in the past and how they are now being treated the same way they treated Democrats. Again you need to jump off a bridge.

Forth – Not liberal. Wow way to make generalizations.

Fifth – Sorry Jon Carey for the mis-spell. I mean you with such an orginal screen name and all you should be one to judge everyone.

Both of your mothers should have been handed coat hangers the second they left the trailer park. Come back when you know a thing or two about politics.

BTW — did the Republicans really do any of this procedural stuff? Seems the first I heard of this issue was Dems saying it in defense of their behavior. Maybe I was sleeping though.

Otherwise, let me rebut a few of San Stupid’s funnier points:

//-President Bush felt it was his God given right to push every policy through Congress without consulting the Democrats.//

Huh? No, not God given… given by the voters who elected him… and he worked with the leaders of Congress (Dems and Reps) to get his legislative recommendations passed.

//It was Tom Delay who chopped up Texas in an effort to push Democrats out of their Districts.//

Truth is, Delay reversed the chopping of the state that Democrats did when they were in power there. Don’t revise history Stupid.

//It was the K-Street project, where Republicans forced lobbying shops to hire Republican staffers.//

Huh? You sniffing bad coke? Or just getting your facts wrong?… or just paraphrasing Kos?

//The Republicans wanted to get rid of the fillabuster. A tool established to protect the minority right in the Senate by the Framers.//

That’s completely false. Republicans wanted to end fillibusters of judicial nominees, in the judicial committee only. Get your facts straight. Also, realize that Democrats were in the wrong for doing it in the first place.

//I have no qualms with the Democrats doing the exact same things to Republicans as was done to them…it is the Golden Rule.//

First, I don’t believe that the Republicans “did the same thing”… Second, that’s not the Golden Rule you dumbshit. The Golden Rule is “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”

You’re actually advocating eye-for-an-eye revenge.

San Stupid, you quickly rose to be the most ignorant, ridiculous liberal poster on this site.

They have not been in power for 6 years. It is the resposibility of those in power, if they want unity, to actively pursue it. The Republicans did no such thing.

-President Bush felt it was his God given right to push every policy through Congress without consulting the Democrats.

-It was Tom Delay who chopped up Texas in an effort to push Democrats out of their Districts.

-It was the K-Street project, where Republicans forced lobbying shops to hire Republican staffers.

-The Republicans wanted to get rid of the fillabuster. A tool established to protect the minority right in the Senate by the Framers.

***Piss and moan about the judges, please do…

Now, I have nothing wrong with what they did. They got what they deserved in the end. But to claim that it is all Democrats fault for the division in this country is moronic.

Were you born last week? Fell, hit your head forgot about the last 6 years?

Unity does not mean one party welds power and influence over another, it means to come together. I have no qualms with the Democrats doing the exact same things to Republicans as was done to them…it is the Golden Rule.

Have no excuses for their behavior, they were playing partisan politics, just like the Republicans did.

President Bush has only now, after losing Congress, been willing to talk with the Democrats.

The ink was still wet on the education bill that Bush and Ted Kennedy worked on before Kennedy got heat from the education Nazi’s and started bashing Bush over the bill he helped create.

The Democrats after yers of claiming Saddam was a threat and how he was producing WMD’s turned around and then claimed Bush lied about WMD

You can read the Democrats comments here
http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.asp

Or you can watch the video here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfeBROshZ0M

So San, have any excuses for the Democrats divisive behavior?

To lie is to say you did something when you really did not.

Politicians lie, it is what they do. Get over that fact and move on, there is no need to dwell on it.

President Bush said he would be uniter not a diveder, did that happen? No. Do you seem me complaing? No.

And there is no need for the Democrats to allow the Republicans any voice in the House. You reap what you sew.

Hey, I see St Paul passed a “living wage” ordience. God, the guy who runs Sioux City economic development must be a campaign contributor to St Paul DFLers. Or maybe Eagan and Savage promoters pushed to get Coleman and his people in charge.

However, the very very big difference is that these guys said otherwise very recently. That is the story here.

All they needed to do is be honest about it. But obviously that ain’t gonna happen.

The Republians are getting what they deserved. Why in any way shape or form should the Democrats even allow the Republicans a voice in the House?

Get over it, move on.