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MDE EXCLUSIVE: DFL STATE CENTRAL DELEGATE WARNS OTHER DEMOCRATS NOT TO COMMUNICATE WITH MDE; WARNING SENT IN E-MAIL TO DFL STATE CENTRAL DELEGATES
By Michael B. Brodkorb | February 26, 2007
The email below was fowarded to me by a dedicated reader of Minnesota Democrats Exposed who is also a Democrat. The email was sent out by a DFL State Central Committee Delegate and it is meant to warn other Democrats not to communicate with me or be a guest on my radio show. Why are they so afraid of Minnesota Democrats Exposed?
I want to correct one item in this email: I am not currently an employee of the Republican Party of Minnesota, nor have I been since July 2005. I was a part-time consultant to the Republican Party of Minnesota from October 30, 2006 to November 7, 2006.
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I want to bring up an issue that some of our potential candidates, and some elected officials and democratic activists need to avoid at all costs. No one should ever communicate with, email, go on talk shows with, or give any attention to Michel Brodkorb aka MDE. If it is not clear enough by the title of his blog, it should be clear by now that he is a paid operative of the MN Republican party, has no interest in listening or debating issues, promoting topics that benefit democrats in anyway, and should never be responded to directly.
There have been a number of examples of things, that don’t need to be brought up right now (heck, this email will probably end up in his inbox somehow), but by dealing with him with any assumption of ‘gain’ can only enable MDE’s arguments. If a story needs to get out there, there are plenty of high-traffic progressive blogs that should be used for any Democratic talking points/scoops, all of which would love to hear from anyone.
There is an argument to be made that some of his attacks need to be responded to, but he still should never be dealt with directly. If his attacks are coming from his blog, then find a friendly progressive blogger out there to talk to and let your side out through. If MDE is attacking someone on the radio, then call up the local progressive radio station.
Heck, if you have a democrat you want to hit in a primary season, please go to one of the progressive bloggers for even that, no need to give this paid GOP opposition researcher any freebees. Plus commenting on his blog, or any other form of direct communication lends him credibility he does not have.
Here are some traffic stats, just so it can be made clear that if a message needs to get out, there are good places to go:
Pageviews per week:
Minnesota Monitor – around 12000 http://www.minnesotamonitor.com/ magFront.do
Minnesota Campaign Report – around 6000 http://www.mncampaignreport.com/
MN Publius – around 6000 http://www.mnpublius.com/
There are other high traffic progressive blogs, but that should make the point. Working or even communicating with MDE is enabling him and his side, please try to avoid any communication with him, and please let your elected official or candidates you may be helping in the future know that if he calls, just hang up. Remember, he is NOT an independent blogger by any stretch of the imagination, he is a paid republican operative with the goal of destroying democrats and our friends. No need to feed the beast.
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February 26th, 2007 at 8:31 pm
Shows again that liberals are absolute cowards. Why engage in debate or dialog, when you can hop on and talk exclusively to the unhinged echo-chamber?
Cowards.
February 26th, 2007 at 8:52 pm
Not just cowards. They are also either liars or too incompetent to research their claims (e.g. the claim that Michael is “a paid operative of the MN Republican party”). Furthermore, they are hypocrites, too, as they’re actually the ones that have “no interest in listening or debating issues,” and if Michael or anyone else had said that they “should never be responded to directly” by our side, they’d be beside themselves with outrage.
February 26th, 2007 at 9:01 pm
This is beautiful.
February 26th, 2007 at 9:07 pm
What’s so funny is the writer is admitting that the blogs of MN Campaign Report and MN Publius are just propaganda arms of the left. If MDE doesn’t have any credibility, why does it keep getting mentions in the Star Tribune?
February 26th, 2007 at 9:11 pm
Chris: You are correct…I think the bloggers behind the blogs mentioned in the email might not appreciate that designation.
February 26th, 2007 at 9:16 pm
This site once was populated by people who could argue rationally and coherently with people who shared differing opinions. But a lot of those people have been chased off and been replaced by bomb tossers like Chris, Kyle and Big Kahuna who are more interested in volume than in discourse. And so as more and more rational voices leave, it will become an even more deafening echo chamber where Michael will spend his days calling Al Franken angry and even his loyal followers will tire of having to tell him how cool he is for thinking that.
I encourage the few remaining lefties to join me in typing the following three letters.
BYE.
February 26th, 2007 at 9:22 pm
See ya Fred, don’t let the screen door hit you in the ass on the way out. … btw, rational, coherent debate is about the furthest thing from your forte… changing the subject with meaningless conjecture, however…
February 26th, 2007 at 9:26 pm
Oh, come on Fred – we know you’ll be back. Anyone wanna take bets on which nickname he’ll choose next (GOP Strategist, Roving Reporter, Fred Garvin, ???????)
February 26th, 2007 at 9:36 pm
To my progressive friends that might be reading this:
To avoid these embaressing leaks such as this, have your candidates contact me directly.
I will immediately dispatch one of my fully trained, well paid, completely reliable employees to handle dissemination of your carefully prepared talking points to our target audience with complete safety.
Together, we can assure success in making absolutely sure that the public only sees the information we desire it to see.
Together we CAN complete the de-Nazification of America,
George Soros
President and CEO, Soros Foundation Network
Open Society Institute
Center for American Progress
America Coming Together
MediaMatters.com
Moveon.org
Minnesotamonitor.com
Coloradoconfidential.com
February 26th, 2007 at 9:38 pm
If it’s MDE what’s tomorrow? Jason Lewis’ show?
Will we only be allowed to debate on Air America?
Minnesota Public Radio?
If their ideas are so superior which is their theory for winning last year’s election they shouldn’t be afaid to debate.
The only explanation is that they’re afraid people will wake up. How many state lawmakers are currently holding seats that should be Republican seats. If they’re confronted how silly their party behaves they might start behaving on some critical votes like real tax cuts in fear of being voted out of office in 2008 despite Hillary or a great Democrat on the top of the ticket.
Walter Hanson
Minneapolis, MN
February 26th, 2007 at 9:44 pm
I have noticed how many threads on this blog are mostly about “Angry” Al.
The jury is still out about him as a Senate candidate as far as I am concerned. It is still too early yet in the Senate race. Whoever is the DFL endorsed candidate in 2008, I will more than likely support.
February 26th, 2007 at 9:52 pm
SPLAT!
That shot hit meat MDE…Phred has crawled back under his rock with his tail between his legs.
And who could blame him?
This behind the curtain look at the paid propaganda network that is our local lefty blagh-o-sphere has got to have lots of DFLers red-in-the-face tonight.
Damn you are good.
February 26th, 2007 at 9:59 pm
Damn..the DFL with egg on it’s face (a-gain), Fred gone and Kathy babbleing incoherently. Not a bad nights work.
Swiftee
AKA GS to my friends
February 26th, 2007 at 10:13 pm
This was great!
What was it? 20 minutes? An hour between the time this chicken shit sent out this email and the time it ended up in your hands?
And who is this clown car to tell the entire DFL central committee they have to be a cowardly chicken shit like this guy?
By Fred. I’m sorry I didn’t get to type this before you left. We’ll miss you and your comic relief.
February 26th, 2007 at 10:26 pm
“bomb tossers like Chris, Kyle and Big Kahuna”
I’m kind of ticked I didn’t make Fred’s list. Guess I need to work on my wicked bomb tossing skills.
February 26th, 2007 at 10:28 pm
“If a story needs to get out there, there are plenty of high-traffic progressive blogs that should be used for any Democratic talking points”
Holy Crap! I didn’t catch that on my first reading. I guess that does blow a huge hole in that “Center for Independent Media” bull shit.
What a load of crap!
February 26th, 2007 at 10:39 pm
Alright, whoever wrote comment #9 from “George Soros” owes me a new keyboard. Cough it up, dangit!
February 26th, 2007 at 10:41 pm
Weak
February 26th, 2007 at 10:53 pm
Here’s Jeff Fecke admitting that he may actually work for Soros.
http://www.minnesotamonitor.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1348#7048
February 26th, 2007 at 11:12 pm
Odd. The timing of this is odd, but I was reaching out to you on a non-partisan basis, about a non-partisan project, which requires some insight into the MN-GOP caucus and convention process… I have reached out to Greens and Independence Party people in the same way, and will have to continue to do so.
Also, I am just a volunteer on this project. I would probably have to bring a more responsible party, a paid staff person at that organization along with on the radio…
I think most DFL State Central Committee members should know by know that I resigned my official DFL party officer postions (Precinct Chair, Delegate to the Affirmative Action committee) out of frustration with the State DFL party’s inabililty to defend its own process, by-laws, etc. after the Beltrami Co. delegate dispute, the primary, and making a decision to support Peter Hutchinson, who was maybe a better Democrat and definately a better Minnesotan on the issues than the muddled-centrist party offering for Governor.
Amy Klobuchar’s campaign, in the person of Jake Spano, refused any responsibility to do party building, and the party itself refused to take responsibility to correct deviatuions from the Call and the Constitution & Bylaws so the alternative is non-profit, non-partisan, and maybe some traditional DFL constituencies need to at least consider a multi-prong approach, e.g. running candidates from their communities in multiple, simultaneous party endorsement battles. To be truly non-profit & non-partisan, I think you have to be willing to cross party boundaries, and honestly I have very little knowledge of the MN-GOP process and I have to correct that, or find expert opinion to tap.
The risk for the DFL of course is maybe losing some progressives to the GOP, the IP, or the Greens, but there are probably very few trueprogressives on the DFL State Central Committee, so I find the e-mail’s language odd, and MN Publius bloggers will admit they are centrists, not liberals or progressives.
Hopefully, there won’t be too much bad blood with DFLers when they understand all of this, I will eventually be back, but I am not afraid to face criticism, to the extent that some of the truly guilty parties in the original incidents I am seekling redress for, are.
So, are we going to do this radio thing?
February 26th, 2007 at 11:18 pm
Michael,
I believe your dates of employment with the Republican Party are wrong – should be 2006 not 2007.
“I was a part-time consultant to the Republican Party of Minnesota from October 30, 2007 to November 7, 2007.
February 27th, 2007 at 12:23 am
I don’t think this person gets it. MN Publius tends to get Republican leaks (look how the Gaither challenge to Ramstad is being discussed there) – and MDE gets democratic leaks. There’s good reasons for that.
February 27th, 2007 at 7:42 am
ILC, were you really inferring that Hatch was a muddled, centrist candidate for governor, or did I misread something… How far left are you to see that wad as a centrist?
February 27th, 2007 at 7:58 am
MDE, maybe you could post your traffic numbers some time.
February 27th, 2007 at 8:43 am
If you haven’t figured it out by now the DFL Central Committee represents real Democrats about as well as Alan Quist represents the Republicans.
February 27th, 2007 at 9:12 am
Ken,
That may be true but as soon as the DFL Central Committee told the DFL rank and file that they couldn’t post comments on MDE, Fred Garvin was the first to stop posting here and leave.
I would also be curious about MDE’s page views. I’m dubious of the claims that MN Campaign Report and MN Publius get 6000 page views each. If those numbers are correct, I would suspect that MDE gets at least twice as many page views as those the “DFL approved” propaganda blogs.
February 27th, 2007 at 10:01 am
According to this site’s traffic statistics, MDE is getting, on average, 1170 visitors per day, on average. At a minimum, that’s 8190 page views per week. However, since so many visitors visit often, click through to many pages and comment… I’d have to guess MDE’s page views come in around 50,000 per week.
Michael would have the best sense though…
In all honesty, however, “page views” are an extremely meaningless statistic as a means of traffic measurement/site popularity… that’s why the DFL hack used it.
But using my math backward on the sites listed, each has, at best, a few hundred visitors each week. So, I also recommend Democrats post their messages exclusively on those sites. That way, nobody will see them.
February 27th, 2007 at 10:15 am
I was right… MinnesotaMonitor, the site listed as the most popular, has half (approx 550) of MDEs average visitors. MN Campaign report has 332 on average, but that’s not “unique visitors”. MN Pubis doesn’t have a traffic counter available to see, so my guess is it’s numbers are lower than estimated in the DFL email.
February 27th, 2007 at 11:39 am
If his attacks are coming from his blog, then find a friendly progressive blogger out there to talk to and let your side out through.
~ Thus we have Fred, John Boy, Roving (AKA Fred), San and I am sure some others I have missed.
Like we did not know you were paid to come here and post your drivel, liberals do little for free.
bomb tossers like Chris, Kyle and Big Kahunaâ€
I’m kind of ticked I didn’t make Fred’s list. Guess I need to work on my wicked bomb tossing skills.
Comment by Master of None — February 26, 2007 @ 10:26 pm
Master you just need to work on your Wellstone bashing skills and you will be on the list!
Should be easy as Wellstone was by far the most worthless waste of skin ever sent to any political position!! Name me one of his favorite issues and I will show you how he was a total hypocrit on the same issue. Ellison is a puke and a crook but still has not shown to be as bad as Wellstone!
See how easy that is Master.
February 27th, 2007 at 11:52 am
“you just need to work on your Wellstone bashing skills”
I try not to pick on people’s religion. If they want to believe he was the 2nd Coming of Christ, who am I to argue?
February 27th, 2007 at 12:33 pm
Something Paul Wellstone practiced much during his life…”Never seperate the lives you live from the words you speak.” Paul Wellstone spoke from the heart passionately about issues, not in anger or hate towards others.
Thus if the words spoken here reflect the lives being lived, then we’re all a sorry lot.
Now talk amongst yourselves.
February 27th, 2007 at 12:37 pm
Big Kahuna!! Paul Wellstone was one of the few Senators who voted against giving Bush power to stage a pre-emptive war against Iraq. The mess it has become proved his vote was the right one. He spoke of the mess that would ensue on the Senate floor should a war take place. Was he wrong??
February 27th, 2007 at 12:37 pm
From the Third Book of Paul vs 5:3-7
February 27th, 2007 at 1:53 pm
Big Kahuna,
Replace “Wellstone” with “Norm Coleman” in your post and it’s perfect.
February 27th, 2007 at 2:49 pm
A WWII classic for the Liberal Progressive Demcrats to ponder. Enjoy!
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:PUHu01ItevUJ:www.charityadvantage.com/missiongateministry/images/Matt9.doc+%22Our+Friend+Rommel%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=7&gl=us
During the Second World War C. J. Auchinleck, Commander-in-Chief of the Middle East Force, wrote the following order, to all commanders and chiefs-of-staff under his authority:
“There exists a real danger that our friend Rommel is becoming a king or magician or bogey-man to our troops, who are talking far too much about him. He is by no means a superman, although he is undoubtedly very energetic and able. Even if he were a superman, it would still be highly undesirable that our men should credit him with supernatural powers.
“I wish you to dispel by all possible means the idea that Rommel represents something more than the ordinary. The more important thing now is to see that we do not always talk of Rommel when we mean the enemy in Libya. We must refer to “the Germans” or “the Axis powers” or “the enemy” and not always be harping.
“Please ensure that this order is put into immediate effect, and impress upon all commanders that, from a psychological point of view, it is a matter of the highest importance.â€
February 27th, 2007 at 3:05 pm
You can bet that these “progressive” bloggers are aware of what side George Soros likes the “bread” “buttered” on.
February 27th, 2007 at 3:12 pm
Blaa, Blaa, blaa…
Wellstone was a hack and every one of you liberals know it!!
Wellstone voted against the war because he knew we would have the results we do now?? I do not think so. What he did was vote no to ANY war!! Hell he would have let Europe fall because he believed nothing was ever won with war. He followers know I am right about this! Then again just to show what a fraud Wellstone was, notice how quite he was when Clinton bombed Iraq?? Once again proving Wellstone was just another hypocrite but managed to get many liberals to believe he was talking “from the heart”.
Something Paul Wellstone practiced much during his life…â€Never separate the lives you live from the words you speak.â€
Let’s see:
Speak of global warming and pollution yet drive around in a green old pollution spewing bus or get hauled around in very large gas guzzling SUV’s or fly on private jets. Yep, this is a man of his words alright.
The list goes on and on with Wellstone! He was one giant fraud who the liberal media propped up to be something other than what he truly was. I believe the man to be a bigger liar than Ellison!!
Just would have been a lot of fun to watch him and his followers cry like babies when he was well on his way to losing is 2002!! Claim he was winning all you want libs, but the fact was after he broke his 2 term promise many moderate democRats were not going to vote for him.
Hey, breaking that promise would be yet another example of Something Paul Wellstone practiced much during his life…â€Never separate the lives you live from the words you speak.†HAHAHA!! “Something Paul Wellstone practiced much during his life…â€Never separate the lives you live from the words you speak.â€ ïŠ Something Paul Wellstone practiced much during his life…â€Never separate the lives you live from the words you speak.â€
Like I say there is so much dirt to be seen on Wellstone that if you were to view it all at once you would wonder how he stayed out of jail!
February 27th, 2007 at 3:15 pm
A few things:
1) Soren is right, we’re pretty centrist (or maybe more appropriately: pragmatists) over at Publius. We’re clearly DFLers, but we are very much towards the moderate side of our party.
2) These traffic numbers are way off. Double our 6,000 and then add some and you have a bad week for us.
February 27th, 2007 at 3:21 pm
Master of None, see above post for your reference of how to get the liberals upset and get yourself entered on Fred’s list.
Next I guess we could start to discuss what a total fraud Mee Mua is and how she not only should have been fired but arrested for trying to help others commit voter fraud!
Maybe we can go to the next flunky Mr. Rybak? Oh wait I think even liberals now have left that one out in the wind.
It truly is just a matter of time before a generation comes to realize how bad liberalism is and we get rid of it once and for all. How many more years can they create the fears they do to try and keep people in line. Global warming, species endangerment, polluted waters, harm to children, the list goes on. Funny how the left claims it is the right that plays to the fears of people yet every example I find is a liberal trying to frighten someone to thinking as they do.
Liberals truly disgust me and unfortunately ignorance is bliss and they do not even realize how bad their policies are.
“Dumbass” is all that comes to mind.
February 27th, 2007 at 3:25 pm
I sure hope that was not Matt from Publis as they are very far from center of the party! Maybe if we were only polling people in the most liberal parts of Minneapolis they might look center.
I also believe their numbers are higher as I know many people find MDE by pure disgust of what they find on Publis.
February 27th, 2007 at 4:39 pm
Matt-
I think that hewing always towards some artificial center is not pragmatic, but it has been marketed that way.
I would argue that Klobuchar did not win because of her centrist positions, or market tested opinions, but because Ford Bell failed to campaign effectively, as did Cavlan or Kennedy or anyone else on the ballot in November.
If centrism was a sure bet, Hatch also would have one by a similar margin, but he simply did not campaign as hard, or build a real campaign organization like Klobuchar did.
Organization can be be pragmatic. Ideology can be truly based in sincere belief, or it can be cooked up to suit a “professional” opinion of what the public palate will be receptive to… and that can be very wrong.
February 27th, 2007 at 4:41 pm
should read “Hatch would have won” not “Hatch would have one”
February 27th, 2007 at 7:10 pm
ImpeccableLiberalCredentials, you clearly are stoned if you think Hatch is a centrist on any level. … well, maybe next to Che Guevara or Joseph Stalin, he’s centrist. But by any modern definition, he’s a left wing dingbat.
Man you’re of the ledge.
February 27th, 2007 at 8:59 pm
Kyle-
It may have come from pseudo-leftist impulse to strengthen the nanny-state (that many self-labelled conservatives also have – on social issues) but Hatch was anti-free speech on the video game issue, for one, and far short of what is required where the nanny-state might save money for individuals and employers alike with single-payer universal health care…
There was a far better candidate within the DFL in the primary, and in the general election, Hutchinson was the best candidate. He did a great job in the debates that were held.
Anyway, I don’t smoke, so I am clearly not stoned… I will admit to being stubborn about my principles, though…
February 28th, 2007 at 1:46 pm
“I don’t think this person gets it. MN Publius tends to get Republican leaks (look how the Gaither challenge to Ramstad is being discussed there) – and MDE gets democratic leaks. There’s good reasons for that. ”
I agree with you Eva. This is a good thing indeed.
LL
March 4th, 2007 at 5:59 pm
Here’s a DFL liberal who isn’t a coward. If the email from Jason was real, I didn’t get it.
I believe in the freedom of speech and the free interchange of ideas and opinions.
I don’t see MDE as any kind of dire threat. If the emperor has no clothes, it shouldn’t be a problem to say so… whether the emperor is Republican or Democrat.
Now most of the spin coming out of MDE is completely bogus, but some of the residents argue well, and provide insight into the Republican / conservative mindset. I consider that valuable…
Imagine… understanding the other side, and perhaps finding common ground.