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MDE FROM THE ARCHIVES: FRANKEN’S FOUL MOUTH CAUGHT ON FILM
By Michael B. Brodkorb | April 25, 2007
A dedicated reader of Minnesota Democrats Exposed sent me this clip of Al Franken going “f-ing” crazy at a Howard Dean fundraiser.
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April 24th, 2007 at 11:12 PM
Who is he referring to? Is he talking about Republican-Americans? If so, then I would like to say to Crazy Al. From me, my parents, brother and sister, aunts and uncles, cousins, nephews….Fuck you Al.
April 24th, 2007 at 11:19 PM
FRANKEN’S FOUL MOUTH CAUGHT ON FILM
April 25th, 2007 at 12:00 AM
Brit Hume has certainly been wrong about a lot of things and I’ll put him in the shameless category for the number of times he has lied and his fibs always seem to be done to support the President/Republicans.
He completely took an FDR letter out of context and parsed it in a way that made it look like social security should be privatized. (nope)
He also said that Iraq was safer for American troops than California because fewer soldiers die in Iraq every day that in California. (He kind of forgot that you need to factor population into the math.)
He’s said that Pres. Bush Senior never criticized Bill Clinton or his Administration (wrong again)
And he invented this tidbit from whole cloth:
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HUME: But Wilson’s report to the CIA actually confirmed that the former prime minister of Niger had met with Iraqis to discuss what was called “commercial relations,” which Wilson interpreted as meaning sales of yellowcake uranium.
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Wilson didn’t interpret it this way at all. He just says stuff over the air hoping folks on the right repeat it and before you know it, the story is that Jessica Lynch valiantly fired every last bullet from her M-16 until she didn’t have any more fight left in her.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,82923,00.html
April 25th, 2007 at 4:15 AM
I’ll take Brit over your sides multitude of reporters any day Christine. The name Dan Rather keeps popping into my brain………… LOL
By the way, since when does disliking somebody make it ok to be a first class potty mouth?
April 25th, 2007 at 6:28 AM
Christine, this little tidbit: “But Wilson’s report to the CIA actually confirmed that the former prime minister of Niger had met with Iraqis to discuss what was called “commercial relations,†which Wilson interpreted as meaning sales of yellowcake uranium”
Is absolutely true. That is what Wilson reported. And that is how Wilson interpreted the information in his report to the CIA. There’s not a thread of anything fabricated in that statement. Nothing.
Of course, Wilson went on to lie about his report to the CIA in a totally fabricated NYT editorial. The good news is, the Senate commission accurately documents exactly what Hume reported.
The FDR letter also was accurate. It would surprise me if FDR didn’t have such conversations or debates when setting up that massive, failing socialist system. Maybe if they tried privatization, it would be in better shape today.
In any case, liberals hatred of FoxNews is silly. Study after study shows that the news content is what they say it is: fair and balanced. The commentary is without question, quite conservative…. but hey, what’s one right-leaning media outlet in a sea of liberal wack-a-doo outfits…
April 25th, 2007 at 6:31 AM
Again a crazy lib has to attempt to deflect attention from the issue at hand.
Angry Al is doing exactly what liberals do. That is, whatever they say about conservatives is EXACTLY what they’re doing. When Potty Mouth Al calls Republicans “shameless”, the truth is, LIBERALS are shameless.
It’s almost without exception. Virtually every time these clowns make a claim about a republican it is THEY who are doing it themselves and not the republican. These idiots are liars, schemers and are SHAMELESS.
F’ing shameless.
April 25th, 2007 at 6:39 AM
Christine your linking to a Fox News story that repeats a Washington (Com)Post story.
Maybe lazy reporting but if there was a lie in the story it was the Post or the Army.
The Jessica Lynch story was pure propoganda and it worked but it wasn’t just Fox repeating the story.
And still it’s no excuse for a wannabe Senator to use foul language in Public.
April 25th, 2007 at 7:08 AM
I don’t think the Lynch story was propaganda… a word that implies a certain malice. I just think it was bad information, reported widely. A reporter heard a good story/rumor, and ran with it… then everyone did.
I mean, at the time, who wouldn’t want to tell the story of a woman in combat who fought like a mad dog? And, I believe, the story was corrected as more information was available.
April 25th, 2007 at 9:23 AM
Chesnut,
Hume characterization of the FDR letter was wildly off the mark:
http://www.prospect.org/web/page.ww?section=root&name=ViewPrint&articleId=9197
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2005/01/31/dont_use_fdr_to_undermine_social_security/
April 25th, 2007 at 9:28 AM
MDE FROM THE ARCHIVES: FRANKEN’S FOUL MOUTH CAUGHT ON FILM
April 25th, 2007 at 9:34 AM
Chestnut #2 said
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Is absolutely true. That is what Wilson reported. And that is how Wilson interpreted the information in his report to the CIA. There’s not a thread of anything fabricated in that statement. Nothing.
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Wrong again! Here is a link to the actual CIA report:
http://wid.ap.org/documents/libbytrial/jan29/DX439.pdf
While Hume says that Wilson interpreted the remark to mean the sale of uranium, but the actual CIA report makes it clean that it was former Nigerian PM Ibrahim who made this interpretation:
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2. Former Nigerien prime minister Ibrahim ((Mayaki)), who was Niger’s foreign minister from 1996-1997 and Niger’s prime minister from 1997-1999 and who maintained close ties to the current Nigerien government, stated he was unaware of any contracts being signed between Niger and rogue states for the sale of yellowcake during his tenure as both foreign minister and prime minister. Mayaki however, did relate that in June 1999 Barka ((Tefridj)), a Nigerien/Algerian businessman, approached him and insisted that Mayaki meet with an Iraqi delegation to discuss “expanding commercial relations” between Niger and Iraq. Although the meeting took place, Mayaki let the matter drop due to the United Nations (UN) sanctions against Iraq and the fact that he opposed doing business with Iraq. Mayaki said that he interpreted the phrase “expanding commercial relations” to mean that Iraq wanted to discuss uranium yellowcake sales.
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Shameless.
April 25th, 2007 at 9:41 AM
Shameless my ass Christine. You’re just another mis-informed liar:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A39834-2004Jul9.html?referrer=emailarticle
One of the most stunning revelations contained in the Senate Intelligence Committee report on the CIA is that virtually everything Joseph Wilson has said about his trip to Niger, and the report that Iraq tried to buy uranium from Niger, is a lie.
First, contrary to what Wilson has said publicly, his wife, CIA employee Valerie Plame, did recommend him for the Niger investigation:
“The report states that a CIA official told the Senate committee that Plame “offered up” Wilson’s name for the Niger trip, then on Feb. 12, 2002, sent a memo to a deputy chief in the CIA’s Directorate of Operations saying her husband “has good relations with both the PM [prime minister] and the former Minister of Mines (not to mention lots of French contacts), both of whom could possibly shed light on this sort of activity.” The next day, the operations official cabled an overseas officer seeking concurrence with the idea of sending Wilson, the report said.
Confronted yesterday with the Senate report, Wilson could only offer a non sequitur and a lame denial:
Wilson stood by his assertion in an interview yesterday, saying Plame was not the person who made the decision to send him. Of her memo, he said: “I don’t see it as a recommendation to send me.”
Further, the Senate report indicates that Plame and Wilson, from the beginning, had an absurdly biased view of the subject Wilson was supposed to be investigating: “The report said Plame told committee staffers that she relayed the CIA’s request to her husband, saying, ‘there’s this crazy report’ about a purported deal for Niger to sell uranium to Iraq.”
As has been widely reported, Wilson conducted a half-baked investigation into the uanium report. But here is the most astonishing fact uncovered by the Senate Intelligence Committee: in his book and in countless interviews and op-ed pieces over the past year, Wilson has been lying about the contents of his own report to the CIA!:
The report also said Wilson provided misleading information to The Washington Post last June. He said then that he concluded the Niger intelligence was based on documents that had clearly been forged because “the dates were wrong and the names were wrong.”
“Committee staff asked how the former ambassador could have come to the conclusion that the ‘dates were wrong and the names were wrong’ when he had never seen the CIA reports and had no knowledge of what names and dates were in the reports,” the Senate panel said. Wilson told the panel he may have been confused and may have “misspoken” to reporters. The documents — purported sales agreements between Niger and Iraq — were not in U.S. hands until eight months after Wilson made his trip to Niger.
Wilson’s reports to the CIA added to the evidence that Iraq may have tried to buy uranium in Niger, although officials at the State Department remained highly skeptical, the report said.
Wilson said that a former prime minister of Niger, Ibrahim Assane Mayaki, was unaware of any sales contract with Iraq, but said that in June 1999 a businessman approached him, insisting that he meet with an Iraqi delegation to discuss “expanding commercial relations” between Niger and Iraq — which Mayaki interpreted to mean they wanted to discuss yellowcake sales. A report CIA officials drafted after debriefing Wilson said that “although the meeting took place, Mayaki let the matter drop due to UN sanctions on Iraq.”
According to the former Niger mining minister, Wilson told his CIA contacts, Iraq tried to buy 400 tons of uranium in 1998.
So: what Wilson actually told the CIA, contrary to his own oft-repeated claims, is that he was told by the former mining minister of Niger that in 1998, Iraq had tried to buy 400 tons of uranium from that country, and that Iraq’s overture was renewed the following year. What Wilson reported to the CIA was exactly the same as what President Bush said in his 2003 State of the Union address: there was evidence that Iraq had tried to buy uranium in Africa.
Recall Wilson’s famous op-ed in the New York Times, published on July 6, 2003, which ignited the whole firestorm over the famous “sixteen words” in Bush’s State of the Union speech. In that op-ed, Wilson identified himself as the formerly-unnamed person who had gone to Niger to investigate rumors of a possible uranium deal between Iraq and Niger. Here are the key words in Wilson’s article:
[I]n January, President Bush, citing the British dossier, repeated the charges about Iraqi efforts to buy uranium from Africa. The next day, I reminded a friend at the State Department of my trip and suggested that if the president had been referring to Niger, then his conclusion was not borne out by the facts as I understood them.
It was this flat-out lie about what Wilson learned in Niger, and what he reported to the CIA upon his return, that fueled the “sixteen words” controversy and led to the publication of Wilson’s best-selling account, titled, ironically, The Politics of Truth.
One can only conclude that Joseph Wilson has perpetrated one of the most astonishing hoaxes in American history. But here is what I really don’t get: didn’t the administration have access to all of this information about Wilson’s report? And if so, why didn’t they use it when Wilson was dominating the news cycle with his lies?
April 25th, 2007 at 9:49 AM
Chestnut,
You seem to have forgotten what argument you were making. Hume said it was Wilson who interpreted a remark, but the *actual* CIA reports shows it was the former PM who made the interpretation. Nothing in your response at 9:41AM refutes your opinion from last night that Hume’s statement was true.
It was false.
April 25th, 2007 at 9:49 AM
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April 25th, 2007 at 10:06 AM
Chestnut must be taking the same pills as Dubya… it must be nice to live in la-la land
April 25th, 2007 at 10:33 AM
Why would I refute my statement that what Hume reported was true. It was true. Wilson reported to the CIA that Iraq attempted to buy uranium from Niger. Hume reported that Wilson reported those things.
April 25th, 2007 at 10:52 AM
I haven’t looked at MDE for a couple of weeks, and lo and behold, its more of the same old same old.
April 25th, 2007 at 11:43 AM
Chestnut tells one lie after another. Where does he make all this stuff up from?
It’s becoming more and more obvious Chestnut is not from Minnesota, just another liar from the East Coast.
April 25th, 2007 at 11:45 AM
I am wondering why you haven’t written anything yet about Matt Entenza’s decision to run for Governor. That’s three big names already: Lori Swanson, Susan Gaertner and Matt Entenza. May be even more interesting and entertaining than Ciresi and Franken’s race!
April 25th, 2007 at 12:11 PM
Wow, Chuck got through a comment without invoking his hatred for Jews. Good job Chuck.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:12 PM
The problem with my “lies” vs. liberal “lies” is that my “lies” are the truth.
Oh… and btw… I am very Minnesotan.
April 25th, 2007 at 2:10 PM
Seems Christine has her head up Chucks ass this week. Is it a better view than from Otter’s ass?
No wonder why Christine is down and out, everywhere see looks she shees shit!
if it helps my liberals friends Wellstone is gone!
April 25th, 2007 at 2:30 PM
Chestnut tells one lie after another…for example….the lie he tells about the head of Iran threatening to wipe out Israel…it’s all based upon a mistranslation.
Look it up and see for yourselves. Chestnut is a LIAR.
It’s easy to smoke out the lying Chestnut who claims that there are no differences between American and Israeli interests. If that’s really true, why are Israelis and jews constantly being busted for spying on America? Ever hear of J Pollard? Ever hear of AIPAC’s Rosen and Weissman? Ever hear of the Lavon Affair? Ever hear of the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty. Ever hear of the Israeli “art students” who were caught spying in the USA at the time of the 9-11 attacks. Chestnut is a liar and a fraud.
April 25th, 2007 at 3:06 PM
It’s becoming more and more obvious Chestnut is not from Minnesota, just another liar from the East Coast.
Like Angry (potty mouth) Al?
April 25th, 2007 at 3:23 PM
Chestnut loves to label people, and Franken well deserves that label.
But why is it when confronted with the facts about Israeli spying on America, Chestnut goes MIA?
Apparently Chestnut prefers to stick to the “poopy face” rhetoric and ignore the essential issue which is that the State of Minnesota deserves much better than a choice between Franken and Coleman for the US Senate. Is it really too much to ask of the so-called mainstream parties that the 99% of us who are Christian and not witting servants of Israel get to have a dog in this so called fight?
April 25th, 2007 at 3:30 PM
Ooops… never mind… congratulations were premature… there’s the Chuck I know.
Hey Chuck, how do you feel about blacks? And, how close to the skull do you set your clipper when shaving your head?
April 25th, 2007 at 3:39 PM
… by the way, Chuck, I think Target has a 2 for 1 sale on tin foil. I hear the stuff can be made in to sporty looking hats for nut-cases.
Time to stock up!
April 25th, 2007 at 4:59 PM
Chuck, Christine Daly, Jim and the rest of those who suffer from these reports on their hero – always resort to personal attacks on others as their response to these posts.
This is a typical liberal response, which is not working, the truth is shedding its light on them and their party and they are going down.
April 25th, 2007 at 8:13 PM
WC, feel free to show me where I used a personal attack in reponse to any post here. Perhaps you confused me for Chestnut who called me ‘a misinformed liar?’
April 25th, 2007 at 8:53 PM
WOW!!!
Franken dropped the effenheimer? How DARE he!!!
It’s not as if the Veeper, Dick Cheney would EVER utter that!
Especially in the United States Senate….