Comments on: RHETORIC ON VETO OVERRIDE OF GAS TAX INCREASE

By: Walter

Walter — Wed, 23 May 2007 04:21:07 +0000

I was watching the television coverage. It seemed like the Senate was still in session and actually voted to adjorn after the House adjorned. It looked like they were waiting for the House to send something to them (the veto override?) before adjorning.

Walter Hanson
Minneapolis, MN

By: Kerosene Hat

Kerosene Hat — Tue, 22 May 2007 22:23:59 +0000

Otter,

You are right on the first count. There would be no way possible you could get the senate back together in 30 minutes to vote on an overide. Getting senators to do anything is like herding one legged cats into a pool.

By: otterscrubber

otterscrubber — Tue, 22 May 2007 22:08:21 +0000

I wondered about that… was just to get people on the record so they could say “I voted to override the Guv to get more transportation spending” when they run for office next time? Or a miscalculation that some Republicans wouldn’t have the guts to vote against more transportation $$$?

By: Jack Bauer

Jack Bauer — Tue, 22 May 2007 21:34:29 +0000

Here’s what I thought was odd about the vote:

The Senate, as I understood it, adjourned at 10 p.m. There was no override vote in the Senate. The House voted on the override around 11:30. Even if the override would have carried the day, there would not have been enough time to get a Senate vote on the override.

Perhaps those of you (on both sides of the fence) who forgot more about the legislature than I know can help me understand why the House took up the override vote that late in the evening.

By: walter hanson

walter hanson — Tue, 22 May 2007 21:00:53 +0000

the margin was actually 86-47. Three people I assume they were DFLers were permitted by the chair to switch their votes to nay after it was obvious that the override was failing. I forgot to write down their names, but if I were their Republican opponent I will be putting that on every piece of campaign literature I put out.

Walter Hanson
Minneapolis, MN

By: Chet

Chet — Tue, 22 May 2007 20:08:25 +0000

If you actually watched the vote, they were up to 87 before a few flaked off when they knew they were not going to reach 90.

And?

This happens on virtually EVERY vote. People hit the wrong buttons, some are playing games, etc. etc. etc. It’s the final vote that counts, not the games that go on during voting.

By: Jack Bauer

Jack Bauer — Tue, 22 May 2007 19:10:31 +0000

Actually, I agree with Debbie. Marty looked a little nervous about the outcome of the vote. Probably because he was making a mistake.

Marty’s mistake: Namely the mistake of underestimating how the arrogance and over-reaching of the DFL would come back to bite them on the butt.

By: JGMPLS

JGMPLS — Tue, 22 May 2007 18:48:05 +0000

Nice language there Debbie. Now go back and watch The Jerry Springer Show.

Thank you to Seiffert and the republicans for not forcing me to pay for half-empty buses and costly trains.

By: Steph

Steph — Tue, 22 May 2007 18:39:31 +0000

Debbie,

Part of being a leader is making sure your votes are counted. To say that Seifert was “scared” because he covered all of his bases before the vote was taken is remarkable.

When seeking to get to 90 votes, 87 is as far away as 1 or 2. Even if the final result would have been 87, those last 3 seem unattainable.

Thank God.

By: Debbie

Debbie — Tue, 22 May 2007 18:27:13 +0000

If Seifert wasn’t scared of the vote, why did he almost shit his pants when they brought it up? If he was confident he would have said “take the vote”, instead they tried to stall and do everything possible to avoid taking the vote.

If you actually watched the vote, they were up to 87 before a few flaked off when they knew they were not going to reach 90. Clearly it’s only a matter of time, before the magic number will be reached.

By: wtm

wtm — Tue, 22 May 2007 18:13:17 +0000

Perhaps Lieder needs some new glasses so he can see better when he counts votes.

I think the veto over-ride is indicative of how out to lunch the Democrats were during the whole session.

By: Jack Bauer

Jack Bauer — Tue, 22 May 2007 17:47:04 +0000

“Never give our Lefty friends the benefit of the doubt.” – Bobby Kennedy.

OK…OK…he didn’t say that. Probably because he was too smart to ever give the left-wingers the benefit of the doubt.

By: Dumbing it Down For the Left

Dumbing it Down For the Left — Tue, 22 May 2007 17:33:17 +0000

You are missing the 50 or so morons who post blather on this blog who wrote that an override was a done deal.

I recall at least one of them even writing that he/she knew specifically who those Republicans would be who would vote to override.

I’d like to invite our friend to clarify what he/she meant on that comment. Maybe writing that he/she knew exactly who was going to vote in favor of the successful override meant something other than what it appeared to mean.

As always, I’m willing to give our Lefty friends the benefit of the doubt.