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MINNESOTA DEMOCRATS POLITICIZE 35-W BRIDGE COLLAPSE – PAWLENTY HATER NICK COLEMAN HITS NEW LOW
By Michael B. Brodkorb | August 3, 2007
"[Nick Coleman]: Chris, there are always this kind of attitude of course government has always funded things that you or I may disagree with, but I think everybody can agree that its got to keep the bridges up. We have had a no new taxes philosophy running state government. It's been the motto of our Governor Tim Pawlenty, he's been a pal politically of Grover Norquist. Norquist is the kind of guy who said he wants to shrink government until he can drown it in a bath tub. Well guess what, you can't drown governments but people can drown and they did drown here when this bridge went down. That's a disgrace. It's not just a tragedy, it should be the beginning of people getting angry about what's not getting done for them.
Host: In fact, you wrote in a column yesterday that this is worse than an act of God or terrorism. It's about incompetence and indifference. Have you learned more to make you change your mind at all or to make you more angry?
[Nick Coleman]: I have actually gotten more angry about this, I saw a photo today on the internet of the Governor vetoing the transportation bill last spring. A transportation bill that had the first gas tax increase this state would have seen in 20 years. He vetoed it. It didn't go anywhere. And he's smiling while he did it along with all the other officials. Guess what, nobody is smiling anymore. This state is a billion dollars behind every year in transportation spending and it's getting to be a disgrace. We were living with the potholes, we were living with the disruption, and the inadequate highways. But we cannot live with bridges falling down." Source: MSNBC Interview, August 3, 2007
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The complete interview is available after the jump.
JANSING: Funding of half a billion dollars on stadiums when your bridges are falling down. Nick Coleman joins me now from Minneapolis. Thanks very much for joining us.
COLEMAN: You're welcome.
JANSING: Clearly your city has a lot to be proud of, we've all admired the heroics of the first responders and the everyday citizens who arrived on the scene after the bridge collapsed. But, is it fair to say there's anger there as well, Nick?
COLEMAN: I think there is a rising sense of anger, of course we're proud of the way we did respond, not only the uniformed personnel, but the good Samaritans. And that is a kind of old fashioned Minnesota spirit. The state was once known and proud of being a progressive state where people pulled together. But I think a bridge collapsing, families being tragically torn apart like this and people still being recovered from the river, this is causing us to question the basic assumptions that we have about whether our government is delivering what we need from it.
JANSING: Well, the baseball stadium is one issue. But the Committee Against Government Waste also argued that there was $636 million in what they called either wasteful or questionable spending in Minnesota in 2006. They cite among other things $30 million for bear exhibits at the zoo, $12 million for
COLEMAN: Chris
JANSING: Ok, let me just finish this
COLEMAN: Chris, there are always this kind of attitude of course government has always funded things that you or I may disagree with, but I think everybody can agree that its got to keep the bridges up. We have had a no new taxes philosophy running state government. It's been the motto of our Governor Tim Pawlenty, he's been a pal politically of Grover Norquist. Norquist is the kind of guy who said he wants to shrink government until he can drown it in a bath tub. Well guess what, you can't drown governments but people can drown and they did drown here when this bridge went down. That's a disgrace. It's not just a tragedy, it should be the beginning of people getting angry about what's not getting done for them.
JANSING: In fact, you wrote in a column yesterday that this is worse than an act of God or terrorism. It's about incompetence and indifference. Have you learned more to make you change your mind at all or to make you more angry?
COLEMAN: I have actually gotten more angry about this, I saw a photo today on the internet of the Governor vetoing the transportation bill last spring. A transportation bill that had the first gas tax increase this state would have seen in 20 years. He vetoed it. It didn't go anywhere. And he's smiling while he did it along with all the other officials. Guess what, nobody is smiling anymore. This state is a billion dollars behind every year in transportation spending and it's getting to be a disgrace. We were living with the potholes, we were living with the disruption, and the inadequate highways. But we cannot live with bridges falling down.
JANSING: Well, our sympathies go out to everyone who was affected by this.
Nick, thank you so much for taking the time to talk with us.
COLEMAN: You're welcome, thank you.
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August 3rd, 2007 at 4:14 PM
I’m not very good at research, and I respect the fact that a lot of you guys are more politically-savvy than me. I’ve learned a lot from reading the posts here.
But, the Star and Tribune story regarding the transportation funding bill (archives) says the gas tax increase of 5 cents would have taken effect on September 1 of this year.
How would that law have prevented the 35W bridge tragedy?
August 3rd, 2007 at 4:17 PM
Nick Coleman continues his gang-rape of the victims. Although, its not surpiseing that MSNBC joined in on the rapist.
August 3rd, 2007 at 4:28 PM
Is Nick Coleman on the sauce again?
August 3rd, 2007 at 4:34 PM
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August 3rd, 2007 at 4:50 PM
Way to go, Nick Coleman! Hold Tim “Veto” Pawlenty accountable for plunging Minnesota into mediocrity.
August 3rd, 2007 at 4:58 PM
moderate liberal: You guys are the ones who wanted the choo-choo train downtown and took funds away from our highway infra structure. Over 1/2 of our state budget is for education. Then comes health care for the welfare state. Come on. Let’s think common sense here. Forget one more ball park—pare down the professional sports teams to about 1 or 2…we’d have a much more enthusiastic sports fan base and better turn out at the games.
For once, can people pull together and mourn, rebuild and make a better Minnesota? I am afraid that we cannot. This state is becoming ruined. How sad.
August 3rd, 2007 at 5:00 PM
Is Nick Coleman on the sauce again?
Undoubtedly he’s under the influence of something – booze, drugs, demons…. No clear thinking person could come up with the crap he’s spewing.
August 3rd, 2007 at 5:19 PM
Hey Moderate,
Once again, you’re showing how uninformed you are. Pawlenty proposed $1.7 billion in highway and bridge projects last session. His bill was killed by the DFL in the Senate Transportation Committee. 2006 was the biggest highway construction year in state history; 2005 was the second biggest and 2004 was the third biggest. The idea that Pawlenty isn’t investing in our infrastructure is baloney.
August 3rd, 2007 at 7:43 PM
Go Nick! Is there a correlation between this accident and Pawlenty thinking the gas tax might not be a bad idea after all?
August 3rd, 2007 at 7:59 PM
Hey Felix,
I hear that if you hurry down to the river, there some dental gold that’s just free for the taking! Be sure to bring your pliers!
August 3rd, 2007 at 9:22 PM
Folks
It’s not right to imply that Coleman has a drinking prolem.
JGMPLS – you are 100% right.
Don’t be too tough on the Strib. Given the paper’s recent past, they probably stole that column from a competing newspaper or plageurized it like they did an editorial a year or so ago.
Oberstar to the rescue? Remember the good congressman was in the Twin Cities a month or so ago to talk transportation. Roads? No. Bridges? Nope. Airports and barge traffic? Negative.
He addressed the burning topic of more bike trails.
I live a block off the parkway and can tell you that these Lance Armstrong wannabe bicyclists ride in the streets when there is a new bike/ped trail 25 feet away. They ignore traffic laws and are just plain annoying.
August 4th, 2007 at 1:10 AM
Plagiarizer in Chief at the Strib? Katherine Kersten – if you read Powerline, you’ll read the Kersten articles before they appear in the strib.
August 4th, 2007 at 1:12 AM
The problem with politicians on both sides of the aisle is they love to spend money on new highways – but don’t like to spend money on maintenance – no ribbon cutting for maintenance projects. In my view maintaining what we have is much more important than building new.
August 4th, 2007 at 3:33 AM
Eva,
I’m not sure I agree with you. Usually what happens is that the highway wears out and then they tear it up and rebuild (of course after making small repairs along the way). Infrastructure is meant to last a certain period of time and then needs replacing, which means building new again.
August 4th, 2007 at 10:26 AM
News flash, Tpaw locks barn door after horse is gone!
Says will consider gas tax increase.
The root of this disaster is chronic underfunding of MNDOT going back to Arne, Jesse and TPaw.
That’s 17 years of lack of maintenance.
The libertarians and conservatives hate taxes, OK, But what is the cost now?
Corporate thinking in government (It’s cheaper to pay off the victims than make a safe product) has led to catastrophic failure.
August 4th, 2007 at 11:34 AM
Rick
You are correct that past administrations are to blame if Pawlenty is. Either every governor, legislator, and transportation commissioner since 1990 is at fault or no one is. TV News reports that the first warning of “structual deficiencies” came in 1990.
But this selective political finger-pointing serves no purpose and should stop.
August 4th, 2007 at 11:34 AM
[...] Known already around the country for throwing blood on the hands of Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty in his column and on MSNBC before the bodies were even cold, Coleman returns to his newspaper’s papers today with his moral high-ground and his absolute psychic certainty – a combination of Ms. Cleo and Florence Kelley – to proclaim foresight of the accident and blame as well: No one knew it might fall? Give us a break. What do you need? They were talking about bolting plates on it to keep it up. Maybe duct tape was next. [...]
August 4th, 2007 at 12:13 PM
Seeing Nick Coleman on video, moving and talking, he sounds just as smug and self-righteous as he does when he writes. I think some of his angst comes from being married to his twin, political-hack wife, Laura Billings.
The Golden Gate bridge was rated lower than this one (go ahead, check my facts). I still see thousands driving on it every day. Outrage from Nick, where? I believe San Fran’s pols are extremely far left, aren’t they?
This was a terrible event, it’s just too bad the liberals are using it to further their agenda.
Liberals always thrive on bad news. That says it all, folks!
August 4th, 2007 at 5:02 PM
While it might not be polite or fair to place the blame for this tragedy squarely on the Pawlenty administration, the collaped bridge has become a powerful symbol of how much is wrong with the (conservative) taxpayer’s leagues “no taxes – government is the problem” philosophy. Clearly increases in transportation spending are needed after all. With more $ to work with, officials at MDOT might reach safer conclusions in their cost/benefit analysis of bridge maintenance projects.
August 4th, 2007 at 7:07 PM
This isn’t even a reflection of a symbol of “what’s wrong with” limiting taxes and government growth.
If anything, this is another symbol of government incompetence. And that has nothing to do with money. It has everything to do with the liberal freeloaders and do-nothings running every aspect of city, state and federal government.
Liberal incompetence is demonstrated by liberals thirst to fund socialist feel-good bullshit, instead of taking care of basic services. Liberals fire police officers and emergency workers, and fund art, welfare recipients and illegal immigrants.
Decay. Brought to you by the DFL… Deadbeats, Freeloaders and Lunatics.
August 4th, 2007 at 8:58 PM
by “government incompetence” are we talking about the MNDOT under the direction of Carol M., our lieutenant gov? I think that is a bit harsh, as it appears no one thought the bridge was an immediate safety risk. I agree that investments in things such as safe bridges and police/fire protection are a very high priority and don’t understand why our republican leaders at the state and national level have been so reluctant to approve adequate funding over the past 7 years.
August 4th, 2007 at 9:21 PM
I think I defined what I meant by incompetence very clearly. Pawlenty submitted the right proposal at the beginning of this year. The DFL decided to suck off it’s special interests instead, and gave him back a TAXportation bill that does nothing for roads.
August 4th, 2007 at 9:38 PM
Nick Coleman Pile of Dung Award.
Once again, this liberal horses ass gets my award. In todays liberal excuse for a hometown rag of a newspaper, He blasts President Bush, writing that “he’ll actually get out of the plane.” Of course this jackass then goes on to criticize the President for flying over New Orleans where he “just looked out the window of Air Force One after the levees broke.” OK Nicky, lets examine the FACTS (something I like to opine about). First off, with the weather system what it was, it made it impractical for air traffic. In addition, National Guard helicopters were busy plucking those who didn’t have enough brains to get the hell out of their chocolate city after being warned FIVE days in advance that you’re gonna get nailed. Can’t rescue people with AF1 zipping around. Additionally, New Orleans airport was closed. In fact Northwest Airlines was the first airline to resume service to that city.
President Bush came to Minnesota as an act of compassion and to find out exactly what we need to get the bridge rebuilt. He did that with New Orleans too. So let me ask you Nicky, are you comparing both disasters??? How much has been blown on N.O. vs. our bridge? It will pale in comparison. I don’t think many victims will be getting ATM cards to use in strip joints, liquor stores and buy Louis Vittone purses. Next, he has no weather to worry about, and the airport isn’t closed. I guess the only issue would be having to put up with the likes of you and your cohorts asking such in depth questions, like who’s to blame, rather than asking “what do we need to do to prevent this from happening anywhere else?” I truly hope after the President’s visit that he says to the Secret Service, “hey guys, lets go to Uptown and grab a sandwich.” It’d be fun watching the libs go into panic mode. Sorta like flipping the lights on and watching cockroaches scatter.
Coleman continues with his biased rant that Government is the solution. Of course I’m sure he couldn’t stand Reagan either. Hey Nicky, another question for ya… How much has the government blown on the zoo’s (and why do we have two?). How about the replica Viking ship being built for a cool $1M? How about all the cutesy art projects Rybak has proposed grants too? Or light rail? Or the Guthrie? Amazingly, you didn’t complain about the billions being spent in Iraq. It’s all priorities Nicky. Either keep the infrastructure up to par, or blow it on cute stuff. And the transportation amendment (VoteYes) that passed last November? Let’s devote 100% of that to rebuilding roads and bridges instead of your choochoo train. Cause guess what??? I’m gonna get fleeced for the train as are the other 99.2% of commuters who won’t use it because it’s not practical. Oops, almost forgot. We’re gonna have to pay extra bucks now since the touchy feely rag has devoted prime NEWS space to write about the whinings of a select few bar patrons bitching that they are inconvenienced that the train doesn’t run past bar closing time. News flash to those who are bitching. If it bothers you that much where you can’t find a good bar from where you’re from move downtown.
I commend the President. Your poster child for sexual prowess in the White House from 1992-2000 never had to deal with issues like this. You mention the Red River flood. Yeah, how many people did that affect? Pales to New Orleans, 35W (this will impact millions if you count the commutes everyday, additional expeditures in time and fuel to name a couple things), and even the World Trade Center, of which the master mind behind that got a free pass from the horn dog himself, when we should be taking these a–holes out… Why don’t you write about that Nicky, because it’s you and your ilk that as usual, blame the other guy and then turn right around and use this as an excuse to raise our taxes.
Dung award number two awarded to StarTribune columnist Nick Coleman. You can pick up your award in the sheep stall at the State Fair in a few weeks.
August 4th, 2007 at 10:44 PM
Go Nick Go.
Let’s be bi-partisan and agree this is not a left-right, liberal-conservative, DFL-GOP issue.
It’s a good government issue and over the past 20 years certain people have supported the responsibility of the people to pay for the infrastructure needs of the state and some have not.
Since we have this new spirit of bi-partisanship we still need to identify who has had good ideas in the past and who has had bad ideas so we can minimize our risk by not listening to those who have screwed things up.
How do we sort this out? Simply look at the people whose opinions have turned 180 in the past 4 days. Maybe start with May Liz Holberg of Lakeville formerly of “no new taxes†now a bi-partisan good government supporter who has everything on the table (Almanac this past Friday). Boy Mary Liz, you sure must have had your head up you’re a** to virtually abandon your core principles in 2 days. It’s either stupidity or fraud. Take your pick.
And the Governor, he put such a high value on transportation that he gave them a part time leader with no qualifications other than being opposed to light rail. He backed that decision up with funding cuts and landmark ideas like asking the contractors to finance improvements like the Crosstown Commons. And he left millions of dollars of federal highway matching funds on the table because he lacked the courage to tell us what we needed to hear rather than what we wanted to hear. He also now has all the options on the table. Tim, it’s either stupidity or fraud. Take your pick.
During the last session a bi-partisan group led by Arne Carlson and Walter Mondale supported a significant investment at the U of M to build a bio-med campus to maintain and grow the crown jewel of our MN economy. Nothing happened, you can be sure that if on some future Monday Medtronic announces their move to Memphis, Tim Pawlenty would be supporting the U of M on Tuesday.
Too little, too late, too many political cowards who have attained their political position by telling people what they want to hear not what they need to hear.
Expose that.
August 5th, 2007 at 12:12 AM
And one more thing: I can’t understand why when 20 out of the last 28 years we have had a Republican President, 12 years out of the last 14 a Republican Congress, 10 out of 14 years a Republican Senate, 7 out of 9 Supreme Court Justices appointed by Republican Presidents. And in MN we have not had a DFL Governor in 16 years and 8 out of the last 9 years a Republican controlled house (sorry about the Senate, but 2 out of 3 ain’t bad) and yet when something goes wrong it is always those damn Democrats or the Liberal media. One would think we would all be living in a Conservative Utopia by now: all that power and influence over a sustained period of time to implement your ideals. What happened? The only thing I can think of is that your basic premises that provide the foundation for your philosophy of government are, for lack of a better word, bankrupt: they simply could not produce positive results.
Don’t worry fellows, you will be back in the minority soon and can return to howling at the moon on CSPAN in the middle of the night. A role perfectly suited to your talents and ideals.
August 5th, 2007 at 11:59 AM
No expert:
I don’t follow the legislature that closely, nor do I watch their debates on TV. But I will bet you that none of our legislators ever advocated for improved roads and bridges. For light rail, bike trails, and the North Star train to Big Lake, yes. For more highway lanes, yes. But for bridge inspections, no.
State and federal leaders, I believe, have provided adequate funding for transportation. But some have watsed the money on light rail, bike trails, and inefficient bus sytstems.
It truly may not be a matter of more money, but spending the money we have more wisely.
August 5th, 2007 at 8:42 PM
Mr Moderate:
I agree we would be hard pressed to find a legislator pre-collapse with a passion for bridges. Swing a cat and hit 100 of them now. But: that is why we appoint leaders with interests, capabilities, education and experience with these kinds of issues. Look at a DNR commissioner like Joe Alexander: career DNR employee from Game Warden to Commissioner and MN DOT Commissioner Len Levine a career transportation specialist. Good government finds these people, gives them the support they need and then allows them to do their job. That is the best we can hope for. If anyone can seriously say that is the approach taken with Carol Molnau they have ingested way too much of the Kool Aid. Len Levine has been out of the commisioner’s office for several years and still is looked to for professional insight into transportation issues. Think that will occupy Carol Molnau in 2015? She was appointed in the spirit of Grover Nordquist: starve the beast. She is our answer to “Heck of a job Brownieâ€. Her significant transportation experience was opposing light rail. It’s time for her to go.
Which gets to Mr Moderates Point #2. I don’t plan on riding my bike to work, taking the bus or waiting for the next light rail line to come my way. Does not fit my lifestyle. But; I do realize that if we all simply dig in and say “it’s my way, or the highway†or in this case “my way is the highway†we won’t get much done. Let’s fix the bridges, reduce highway congestion and if we have to build a few bike paths and some commuter rail stations along the way lets do it now and not argue for another 20 years. The cost of doing nothing to our state economy exceeds the cost of accepting a few compromises along the way.
Oh, and Alexander and Levine? Both appointees of Rudy Perpich. A guy with a vivid imagination who had an unshakable belief that the people involved in Government could and should make a better life for all of us.
August 5th, 2007 at 8:56 PM
Ed S
What proof do you have that “the (transportation) beast has been starved”?
The TV news says the first report of a “structural deficiency” in the 35W bridge was issued in 1990.
So either all lawmakers and state officials dating that far back are to blame, or none of them are.
My guess is that if Holberg said the gas tax was off the table now, you’d cricify her for that. Fair and balanced, you are not.
August 5th, 2007 at 10:41 PM
Great facts about who had majorities in the houses Ed. But they did not have CONTROLLING majorities. Thus we end up with useless, oppressive laws, pork barrel spending to make some pol’s base happy, rather than attacking issues.
My question to you. Our infrastructure is decaying yes. Does everything need immediate replacement, no. Here’s what happens when parties bi-partisan themselves to prostitute instead of attacking issues:
What’s going to happen when SSI runs deficits (it was the liberals in 1972 that passed a law allowing the federal government to dip into SSI and “borrow.”) Bush has argued for partial privatization. Liberals went absolutely berserk. Please educate me Ed. What’s wrong with me directing a portion of MY retirement? Guess what? In addition to my SSI, I have IRA’s, 401k’s and numerous other investments. Do I hand those over to the government and hope it’s still there when I retire? Hey Ed, why do you think IRA’s exist in the first place? Because people have zero faith in SSI. What pisses me off, is now me and everyone else who has an IRA will still have to foot the bill for some douche bag who blows all his cash on partying, cars, orgies and whatnot. And the same can be said for Medicare. Am I to pay for the same individual described above who smokes, drinks, has unprotected sex and now I have to pay for their syphillis shot or worse yet HIV treatment? Where am I going with this? It’s called personal accountability Ed. You believe, as posted, that the government should take care of everything. B.S. Privatize the post office and watch the price of a postage stamp sit at 41 cents for the next decade. Here’s a wake up call for you Ed, and all the rest of you Air America buddies out there. Get rid of the s–tbag teachers, give kids a high quality education, and we’ll be fine. Continue down the path we’re on, and we’ll all be wards of the state.
August 6th, 2007 at 3:14 PM
Minneapolis jinxed it’s self.
The Collapse of the 35 W Bridge may be due to Minneapolis’s refusal to complete the Tibetan Sand Mandala Ceremony – and preserving the Mandala, instead of pouring it into the river.
August 6th, 2007 at 9:37 PM
Ah… So many right wing nuts and so little time…
First, for the reserved and considerate Mr. Moderate:
What proof do I have that the “transportation beast has been starved?†Have you noticed that bridge sitting in the water? Do you ever drive around town during the workday? Go from Eden Prairie to the Airport on weekday afternoon? Have you ever looked closely at the underside of bridges? Driven rural state highways in Northern MN? Try to come home on I94 from St Cloud on a Sunday afternoon? Driven to Anoka at 5:00PM on a week day? Go through the 694 & Snelling meat grinder? How many examples would you like? I’m just getting started. You must be using those bike paths. And I know you will point out that the latest administration has only carried forward the policies of the past and therefore bears no blame. Somebody needs to fix this and you guys are all giving out free passes.
And yes, I criticized Holberg for her earlier position and I would still criticize her if she maintained her earlier position. Because I think she is wrong. My point is simply that when one changes their views by 180 degrees overnight we need to apply a little insight as to why. If she truly believed in her long held positions she would have said what many are saying here: we have adequately funded transportation, there is no smoking gun that there was any action needed on this bridge and I stand by my beliefs. Instead, Holberg has everything on the table. What do people want to hear Pre-collapse: “no new taxesâ€. What do people want to hear Post-collapse: “everything’s on the tableâ€. My point: too many politicians (left and right) base their careers on telling us what we want to hear not what we need to hear. Jesse Ventura was the “Rain Man†of political integrity.
And finally Mr. Moderate: If any of us were “fair and balanced†we would get a job as a host on CSPAN and not be posting here.
And the hot blooded Mr. Rick:
Better get some valium in that Kool Aid. We’re just here having some fun. Remember the Constitution? If the only way government works for you is if one party has total control you would be best off to look elsewhere for political satisfaction. Are you a warm weather guy? Go check out Hugo Chavez, beautiful sub tropical climate, lots of beach front. More of a change of season’s guy? Maybe Kim Jong Il? You could go golfing together. Watch him by the scorecard though. I’ll have tune up my knowledge of US History; but, I do not think any party has enjoyed a flat out veto proof majority in some time and I do not think that is much of a solution to our problems and not much of a likelihood in our under the rules of our Constitution. Get used to your current level of frustration.
We can agree on our 401Ks, IRAs and other investment vehicles as the alternatives needed to supplement SS benefits. It’s a beautiful world that FDR put together isn’t it: a well planned retirement that includes a mix of public and private sources. It’s even a special interest of mine: I grew up in Minneapolis, my dad died at age 3, my Mom and I lived on a SS survivor benefit and a VA check along with what she earned as a fry cook at various fine Lake Street greasy spoon restaurants. I got a great education from Minneapolis Public Schools and was able to work my way through the U of M as a commuter from home. All at the cost of about $1000.00 per year in the early 70s. I began my career as a s***bag teacher. After a few years I went back to the U of M for Grad School where I encountered a few world class teachers, one of whom became a close friend, mentor and job finder. Now a few jobs later I have started a couple of companies and on a monthly basis I send back more in sales tax and payroll taxes than my mom and I received from my age 3 to 18. This is one GREAT STATE where a kid with nothing can through education and hard work earn the opportunity to pay a significant amount of taxes and keep a nice amount too. Unfortunately, the system that allowed me to do this is being dismantled in the spirit of “starve the beastâ€. One of my fellow S***bag teachers that I started with has stayed with it and taken it seriously: everything one would want in a teacher: high standards for performance and behavior, arriving early and staying late as an Industrial Technology teacher showing kids how practical skills can lead to practical jobs. When we started together class sizes were under 20 (a good thing when lots of power tools and sharp objects are in play) and a $20,000 budget for a department of 4 teachers (again, the tools and materials are costly). He is wrapping up his 30 year career this year with 45 in a class and a $500 budget. My buddy say’s he’s given up on trying to learn all their names. And Mr. Rick explains this as the fault of the S***bag teachers.
Because I suggested that Perpich did a good thing by appointing highly qualified commissioners who were steadfast in demanding the funds and results from their organizations I am just another Air America, cradle to grave, socialist. Remember Rick: rationalization is the key to mental health.
August 7th, 2007 at 4:34 AM
Outstanding rebuttal. I didn’t call you a nut though, where name calling and debasement seems like a favorite past time for liberals. Plus keep the valium for yourself. I abhor drugs (I know you’re kidding btw)
I’m curious. What gives you the idea I would ever endorse a Chavez or Jong Il??? It’s your liberal friends like Sheehan, Penn, Glover and the likes visiting them, not many Conservatives. I never stated I would like one party controlling majority. More twisting of my statement. I truly think that would be scary, but even if one party did make up 60%+, there is no guarantee they would vote party lines, although it is proven that libs vote partisan way more than Conservatives do.
So let me ask you this… Why aren’t you still teaching? And I will offer a different stance on the s–tbag teachers. Are there good ones. You bet. But with everything else, there are bad ones. The issue I have is teachers are for the most part respected and can easily influence a young mind, even those college students. Don’t use your position as a bully pulpit. Ward Churchill ring a bell? What about conservative students who turn in papers they’ve busted ass on and get a C because the teacher does not agree with their point of view? It does happen Ed. And look at the pensions they get including SSI. I’d rather see them get a healthy payraise, matched 401K to 5% and do away with tenure, then my attitude changes. It looks like you enjoy diluting or even changing the subject. I never mentioned class size. It sounds like your friend is stand up. But you know what. We all get screwed at work one way or another. I could tell you about my latest screwing where a guy recently returned to work after quitting, he got his seniority back, so the next day position that comes up, he has first shot. Am I pissed? You bet. But I can always move on can’t I? And I commend you for what you’ve done with your life. I did the same thing with the exception of my Father passing so early. Put myself through college (twice) and educated myself so I could get a good job.
As for roads, I live out in Wright county and my summer Sundays into work (I work night shift) are a nightmare if I take 94. But let me ask you this… What does that have to do with a bridge? It’s the freeway design (a curve and then merge to three lanes just west of Rogers eastbound that slows traffic down). The road is supposed to be widened to three lanes to/from Clear Lake by 2009 or 2011. What then? Make it four lanes? Six? Just for four to six hours of bad traffic?
Have a great day Ed. I’m gonna have a beer in a few hours, minus the valium