Maybe better to say, 1 percent of hates America enough to join MoveOn.org. But the majority of Democrats loath the country enough to sympathize with their lunatic cause.

look through various comments you made regarding MoveOn.org when the initial Ad hit… you said they were not a fringe group but merely what all of the left and Dems thought, now that you’re presented with the facts (that were there all along, that they’re only 1% of Americans), you change your story.

typical hypocrite

but at least you can admit you were wrong (or try and play it off at least)

“A Gallup poll reports that 61 percent of Americans have a favorable opinion of General Petraeus, up 9 percent in just one week.

Fifty-four percent of those surveyed said they believe Petraeus’ plan for removing troops is the right pace or too quick. By contrast, only 33 percent view the withdrawal as moving too slowly.
Pew reports that nationally “57 percent of Americans who read or heard about Petraeus’ testimony approved of his recommendations for Iraq, while only 28 percent of respondents said they disapprove.

US News & World Report’s “Political Bulletin” highlighted polling that found when “[a]sked, ‘If General Petraeus asks for the troop level to remain in place for another nine months, would you approve or disapprove this proposal,’ 54% approve it; 43% disapprove. Independents track the overall response, with 53% approving the proposal and 43% disapproving it. 80% of Republicans back the idea while 67% of Democrats oppose it.”

Indeed… it would appear that few people really agree with the defeatist, pro-Al Queda, cheese eating surrender monkeys in the Democrat party….

… The only lies that have been told by anyone in the last 6 years have been told by Democrats and the fringe lunatics on the Left.

Are you fucking serious?

“the Italian letter, a letter by an italian FBI/CIA equivalent giving a briefing on how Saddam was trying to buy uranium from whichever country that was in Africa”

“Bush decides to quote this letter in his state of the union”

When? Where? Seriously, finding the transcript of a State of the Union address is NOT THAT FUCKING DIFFICULT!

Don’t believe me?

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/01/28/sotu.transcript/

(Look! It’s….Magic…or something!)

Is this what’s got you all worked into a “top of your head” lather?

“The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.”

Guess what, Andrew? The British government DID tell us that, the British government STILL STANDS by it, and following their own intelligence review (the Butler report), said the statement was “well founded”.

Additionally, the US Senate Intelligence Committee said that the US had similar information from a number of intelligence reports, a fact that was classified at the time Bush spoke.

The CIA said that Joe Wilson’s report to them tended to confirm the British intelligence rather than contradict it.

Both the US and British investigations MAKE CLEAR that Italian forged documents, exposed as fakes soon AFTER Bush spoke, were NOT the basis for the British intelligence Bush cited, or the CIA’s conclusion that Iraq was trying to get uranium.

“I can look up it later in a book if you wish”

Why don’t you do that Andrew.

US News & World Report’s “Political Bulletin” highlighted polling that found when “[a]sked, ‘If General Petraeus asks for the troop level to remain in place for another nine months, would you approve or disapprove this proposal,’ 54% approve it; 43% disapprove. Independents track the overall response, with 53% approving the proposal and 43% disapproving it. 80% of Republicans back the idea while 67% of Democrats oppose it.”

I would imagine soon you will post how you know for a fact that letter was a fake and President Bush knew that as well?

You fucking liberals are so sad it just makes me laugh!! Funny thing is when we caught your guy in a total OUT AND OUT LIE, you all suddenly claim it will not effect his work.

You Mr. Bill Clinton who WASTED thousands and thousands of tax payer dollars for what turned out to be in fact a lie! You know Andrew, a lie, when you KNOW you are not telling the truth.

What you fucking losers try to do is beat the drum that he lied without proff long enough you hope people will just believe you because they heard it enough. You know, the old “where there’s smoke, there’s fire” kind of thing. It is an old and trusted play from the liberal democRat playbook.

FACT really is you have no proof and neither do any of your liberal cronies. You hate that your legacy of presidents include Clinton, Carter, and the likes. One fail democRat president after another. Now you want to put up Hillary! Has there ever been a more corrupt family in ploitics and how they get their donations?

The Italian Letter. Bush and his cronies are given the Italian letter, a letter by an italian FBI/CIA equivalent giving a briefing on how Saddam was trying to buy uranium from whichever country that was in Africa, it was a few I believe (Im doing this off the top of my head, I can look up it later in a book if you wish). Bush decides to quote this letter in his state of the union except for one thing, the letter is shown to be a counterfeit and Bush is told this prior to the speech. He doesnt give a shit, he says it anyway to scare people and get his war agenda going.

I believe there was a bit of lie about their being weapons of mass destruction too….

Let’s see what the Senate Foriegn Relations Committee was up to yesterday:

“SEPTEMBER 19, 2007
To hold hearings to examine the Everglades, focusing on protecting natural treasures through international organizations”

PRIORITIES, PEOPLE!

WASHINGTON (CNN) – Sen. John Kerry, D-Massachusetts, criticized MoveOn.org Monday for taking an ad out in The New York Times criticizing Gen. David Petraeus. The general is testifying before Congress today about the situation in Iraq.

“I don’t like any kind of characterizations in our politics that call into question any active duty, distinguished general,” Kerry told CNN, adding “who I think under any circumstances serves with the best interests of our country.”

Yesterday, of course, Kerry joined 24 of his fellow Democrat “troop supporters” in voting against the resolution.

Apparently he was outraged before he wasn’t.

You may also remember that I gave him the benefit of the doubt when you suggested that he “took it back”.

Well now it seems that you were right and I was wrong.

Take a Democrat *and* scumbag lawyer at his word? What the hell *was* I thinking?

Just give us proof of just ONE lie!

It truely is sad Chauncy just what a mind numb liberal robot you allowed yourself to become. It cannot be a happy life when the only people you believe are not only lying to you, but filling you with nothing but negativity so you can walk around upset over things you do not know or understand.

Nice juvenile dodge. If you have so much material to pick from, it shouldn’t require too much effort to come up with ONE example.

You’re not that lazy, are you?

What’s the senate going to do – repudiate every little irritating thing that gets advertised? If they did that, there’d be no time to squander my tax dollars – and you know damn well they won’t waste that opportunity.

Unfortunately, this disease has left them without the ability to process anything objective anymore. Not that there ever was that ability for most of them.

In order to objectively process information you must first allow information in. I see the right able to do this. But deciding the Patreaus testimony is lies and puppetry before he even spoke is an example of this inability.

I wish you guys could get your story straight. Here’s how kj, one of your fellow travelers, tried to spin MoveOn and the ad in the immediate aftermath:

“MoveOn.org is a pretty minor fringe organization that just happens to have some big donor.

make no mistaken, their numbers are small and they don’t speak for even a sizeable portion of the DFL”

Go back and read the threads. At the time, at least some of you had enough shame to realize what an outrage MoveOn’s ad was, and were doing everything possible to try to minimalize and marginalize them.

Now they’re a 3 million member juggernaut which should not be taken lightly?

Clearl Chauncy is not “honorable”. That much is easy to see.

The President has screwed up the management of this war and told so many lies that even if Gen. Patreaus is accurate in his description nobody can really believe him.

This adds to Als already titanic arrogance. How can anyone other than a fringe lib extremist vote for this kook?

The wise choice would have been to state that General Patreaus is an honorable man who has dedicated his life to teh defense of this country and that he deserves our respect. However,….I disagree with x, y, z… Would that have been so difficult?

On the other hand, good for Amy K. – I must admit that I’m suprised she would go against the majority of Dems on this issue.

That’s 1 percent… a severe minority… a fringe group… radicals… ignorant radical nuts.

Their grass roots are anchored in excrement.

Bobcat and Teresa here are prime examples of the abject stupidity that dominates the Left.

Has anyone broken down how the donkeys voted by how far off their next election is?

Just goes to show that the loonie lefties are lying when they say they support the troops but not the way. Petreaus is ‘a troop’, and these idiots attacked him before he even issued his report.

Notice how these same loonie lefties think it’s ok to slaughter the unborn……………..

Voters care about their votes on the war, not about condemning this PAC or that PAC, they hate all PACs.