Comments on: WITHIN MINUTES, FRANKEN FLIP-FLOPS ON SUPPORTING 2ND AMENDMENT RIGHTS

By: fromMN,onActiveDuty

fromMN,onActiveDuty — Sat, 01 Mar 2008 15:20:42 +0000

â€œOne can support the 2nd amendment and still support gun laws.â€ True, for instance 2. Have your musket clean as a whistle, hatchet scoured, sixty rounds powder and ball, and be ready to march at a minute’s warning. (Rogers Rangers standing orders. Applied to all rangers at home or in the field). Concerning the Patriot act vs. 4th amendment I bet none of the Democrats running can tell what the significance of the life or limb portion of the law is/was and what it pertains to…..I’ll bet what our founding fathers thought of as unreasonable search and seizures would differ greatly from ours. They were probably more concerned with soldiers waking them up in the night when they had to get up and milk the cows early. Our founding fathers probably viewed the right of self defense as god given and totally separate from hunting rights. Where in the second ammendment does it refer to “hunting rights”? Anti gun people claim they don’t want to take away all guns at the same time they fight for laws denying any weapons to private citizens like the DC law that the Supreme Court is looking at.

By: Big Kahuna

Big Kahuna — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:56:20 +0000

Good one Woo.

let me guess you have your own personal nuke?

What a dipshit!

By: Woo

Woo — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:57:11 +0000

The right of the people to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!

So, by this logic, I can’t support the 2nd amendment and support a ban on personal nuclear weapons.

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By: Chestnut

Chestnut — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 03:43:45 +0000

Back that up 2PT. What in the Patriot Act constitutes a violation of the Fourth Amendment? … The answer is nothing. If you knew a shit wit what you were talking about, you’d know that.

By: TwoPuttTommy

TwoPuttTommy — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:10:08 +0000

“And one can support the Fourth Amendment and still support unreasonable searches and seizures.”

Which pretty much sums up the republiCon postition regarding The Patriot Act, and their support for Boy Blunder And The Plunderers.

Say, chestNuts? You cannot explain to me why you extremist rightwingnuts claim you want “strict constructionists” appointed to the judicial branch, but turn a blind eye while Boy Blunder ignores the Legislative Branch through Signing Statements.

But I can explain to you, why that is so: republiCons are consistently inconsistent.

Oh – hypotcrites, too.

By: CCK

CCK — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 05:46:14 +0000

That quote was actually from the Bob Davis Show when Ron Rosenbaum was filling in.

By: Chestnut

Chestnut — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 01:10:43 +0000

“One can support the 2nd amendment and still support gun laws.”

Sure, and one can support he First Amendment and still support restrictions on free speech and expression.

And one can support the Fourth Amendment and still support unreasonable searches and seizures.

Hell, I bet one can support the Third Amendment, yet still be tolerant of the government forcing home owners to allow soldiers to use their homes in peace time.

… you serious Mark? Are you truly that goddam stupid?.. oh, wait… I know your posts… of course you’re that goddam stupid.

By: Yoni

Yoni — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:15:47 +0000

Jay,

thank you for the thorough explanation there is a first for everything on MDE I guess, you should be proud or maybe not, i am just a stinking liberal

By: jay

jay — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:57:43 +0000

Yoni, the Bill of Rights limits the Government. Not the citizens. The Second Amendment protects us against government tyranny. Which other right listed is limited to the government only?

The NRA is the Nations first civil rights organization. Protecting all citizens Right to keep and bear arms.

If Franken is indeed a supporter of the Second Amendment he would do well to answer the NRA’s survey. And I as a member would welcome his support.

But to be honest I have my doubts about Angry Al.

By: Big Kahuna

Big Kahuna — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:28:40 +0000

You are a bit silly digby, as what laws would ever make a criminal give up his gun?

You moonbat liberals will never be able to understand that because you just do not accept reality. Instead it is just easier to have your fluffy little white cloud dreams and pretend all will follow your plan to rainbows and unicorns.

By: Digby

Digby — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:21:16 +0000

Nah Kahuna, Democrats just support not having guns in the hands of murders, rapists, child molestors and crooked gun dealers. Silly us!

By: Big Kahuna

Big Kahuna — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:25:32 +0000

Liberals want to know what the meaning of “shall not” on this one.

After all just take away the guns fro honest law abbiding citizens and the criminal will surely understand the gesture of peace and will clearly lay down their guns as well.

That is the kind of thinking you get when you fill an idiots mind like twopudd.

By: notbeinfringed

notbeinfringed — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:11:43 +0000

“A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

Seems pretty durned clear cut to me!

By: Yoni

Yoni — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:59:34 +0000

Please Pete and Jay, explain why one can’t support the second amendment and still support gun laws? Do you guys know what the second amendment is exactly? and what does it have to do with the NRA? and why is that joke of a lobby significant to anyone?

By: jay

jay — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:13:57 +0000

Mark will Franken answer the NRA’s survey?

By: Pete

Pete — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:12:59 +0000

Amazing how quickly this liberal got off on a unrelated tangent. This must really be hitting a sore spot!! Good job Michael, keep exposing Angry Al as the complete fraud that he is. And Mark, does this mean that Angry Al was for gun control before he was against it?

By: Mark Peterson

Mark Peterson — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:31:36 +0000

Once again Michael, you are a rhetorical idiot. One can support the 2nd amendment and still support gun laws.

I guess if you’re from the party that says “if you don’t support the war you hate America and the troops” then this is pretty status quo.