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BREAKING NEWS: ERHARDT AND PETERSON LOSE REPUBLICAN ENDORSEMENTS
By Michael B. Brodkorb | March 8, 2008
Local Republicans today have decided against endorsing two of the Override Six. Representative Ron Erhardt and Representative Neil Peterson were defeated for endorsement by other Republican candidates.
Topics: Neil Peterson, Override Six, Ron Erhardt |
March 8th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
It doesn’t seem to be about who (candidates) the Republican delegates in their respective district have voted FOR but, about who they have voted AGAINST.
A PAW CLAWS [not Santa Claus] type of attitude rips & tears.
The six (6) people recognized that “London Bridge” had already fallen down, and “My Fair Lady” wasn’t doing justice TO TWO (2) jobs TOO.
March 8th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
[...] UPDATE 6 - Michael reports that Ron Erhardt and Neil Peterson lost the Republican endorsement today. We’ll have more on this later, but the first question on my mind is: will Ron Erhardt run in the Republican primary or will he run as an independent? [...]
March 8th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
The GOP screwed Erhardt, and now he’s going to screw them. He’s just feisty enough to run as an independent, and if he does, guess who wins?
March 8th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
The Republican. Why? Because while Ron may be feisty, he has a whole bunch of problems. His impact will be minimal because of the recorded messages in regards to his vote on the transportation bill.
The Democrat will not win. He/She/It/They are toast.
March 8th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Hey Sakaki, have you checked out numbers in 41A lately? You might want to look up a few of the election results for the last two cycles.
March 8th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
Wow, MDE sounds like he’s foaming at the mouth on the radio right now.
March 8th, 2008 at 3:24 pm
Yes, I’ve taken a look at the numbers for 41A, and a strategy has already been put forth.
The Democrats will not win this seat. Period.
March 8th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
You should play the stock market. You’d get rich with the sureness you have about the future.
March 8th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
Put $3200 in CROX. I’ve already made money on it, and I’ve had it since it was $27 a share. And when I double or triple my investment, I will be happy.
March 8th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
Now MDE’s going on about Erhardt not voting in a way that was aligned with the people of his district. Not to nitpick, but I think what he means is that he didn’t vote in a way that was aligned with the far right members of the GOP in his district.
March 8th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
WildBlue, my mother lives in 41A, she usually votes Democrat, and she hates the tax increases. Oh, and by the way, she’s also said she would never vote for Franken, Hillary or Obama. Some democrats do have brains, just not the loony toon ones that are the mainstream of the DFL.
March 8th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
Michael just got stuffed by Sue from Edina. Nice.
March 8th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
And Laura from Edina totally thrashes Sue from Edina. Looks like WildBlue is trying to liveblog a disaster, which is failing miserably.
March 8th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
Well Sakaki, looks like you and I are enjoying ourselves.
March 8th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
Immensely! As a Nisei (a second-generation American of Japanese descent), I have taken to politics like my mother and father took to researching about America.
I am having an absolutely lovely time with all of this. At least that’s one thing that we can agree on.
March 8th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
What’s the name of the Republican candidate who defeated Peterson?
March 8th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
Jan Schneider, as per True North
http://www.looktruenorth.com/
March 8th, 2008 at 5:00 pm
Good old Jan Schneider is the one that gave Geoff Michel a run for his endorsement in 2002.
March 8th, 2008 at 5:33 pm
Thanks to Mike and the boys at ScaifeNet, two Red districts have just turned purple with a pretty good chance of one of them turning blue, if not the other.
Keep up the great work Mike!!
Flash
March 8th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
Flah’s comments are the same rhetoric used by the Erhardt campaign. If we don’t endorse the incumbant we will lose the seat to the DFL. Since when do Republicans just give up that a district will inevitably go blue. What about the best candidate, what about campaigning, what about persuasion. If we are not confident as a party that we can do that we have truly lost our heart and soul.
March 8th, 2008 at 5:59 pm
This is the way politics works. You take an unpopular vote, you had better be prepared to take responsibility for it. Votes have consequences. In this case, it may mean running in a party primary because your lost endorsement.
Did anyone expect the people that helped Erhardt and Peterson win election to sit on their thumbs?
For you DFLers here - you don’t suspect that the two DFLers that voted against the bill the first time weren’t told by trhe DFL leadership that they’d have party-backed opposition in their primaries if they didn’t vote for the override?
Regarding parties - you dance with those that bring you and you don’t bite the hand that feeds you. Voting with the party, especially for critical vote on critical issues is demanded by both the IR and DFL parties.
March 8th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
Good old Flash. What a goofball.
March 8th, 2008 at 10:49 pm
Reading the above four paragraphs, I wonder if some will tend to think that it’s ok for the Party to sometimes hold the People hostage.
March 8th, 2008 at 11:04 pm
el presidente, Huh?
March 9th, 2008 at 6:49 am
[...] Yesterday I spent the day helping John Swon — hereafter to be known only as “The Architecht” — engineer Jan Schneider’s remarkable first-ballot smackdown of Rep. Neil Peterson in Senate District 41B. [...]
March 9th, 2008 at 8:27 am
[...] GeeEmInEm on Saturday’s “upset” (in the same sense that the 1940 NFL Championship was an “upset”) in District 41; conservatives Ketih Downey and Jan Schneider beat RINOs and tax-bill traitors Ron Erhardt and Neil Peterson for the GOP endorsements. esterday I spent the day helping John Swon — hereafter to be known only as “The Architect” — engineer Jan Schneider’s remarkable first-ballot smackdown of Rep. Neil Peterson in Senate District 41B. [...]
March 9th, 2008 at 8:41 am
Re the “Edina is purple” meme - in an electiion where Republicans nationwide were punished for acting like Tics, and in a district where both of the reps were RINOs of the lowest order, what does one expect?
When Republicans act like Tics, or like we have stockholm syndrome, we lose (see Gil Gutknecht). When Republicans act like conservatives, we win.
As to Erhardt running as an indy; he’ll draw many more Tic voters than Republicans. He’ll split the bad guys’ ticket, not ours.
March 9th, 2008 at 8:43 am
In 41a Keith Downey was handing out sweet red shirts and caps to his supporters and you could tell when the convention was seated by the sea of red that Erhardt was going to get smoked.
41b was more of a wildcard. Jan had less than a week to prepare her challenge but had excellent handouts from the MN Taxpayer’s League and the Minnesota Family Council showing Neil’s pattern of bad votes (not just one.) Jan was also very familiar to many of the delegates as a longtime activist (who probably could have easily won this seat when Seagren vacated 4 years ago.)
A combination of new (Romney) delegates and angry (tax vote) people made it an easy, single ballot victory for Jan.
March 9th, 2008 at 9:14 am
I believe your guy’s logic on why 41A wont be more in play to be a little bit silly.
Ernhardt should split the vote between liberal Republicans and maybe some more conservative Democrats.
He won last time roughly 60-40. Edina has been trending blue (went for Kerry in 2004) and if the nominee is Obama, we can probably bet that Edina will go blue once more.
With a 60-40 split, it appears that the majority of Democrats have already decided not to vote Republican, even if the Republican is a RINO maybe Ramstad style type of Republican. We could probably assume though that Ramstad carried Edina much better than Ernhardt, 70-75% most likely. So we can assume that the Democrats here are willing to vote for a RINO Republican if it’s Ramstad but do not have the same allegiance in the state House races where Ernhardt garnered only 60%, meaning he wasn’t able to capture the Democrat vote then, why would he be able to do it now? The Democrat should still be able to garner 40% (if its a candidate we like just as much) and Ernhardt may take some of the moderate Republicans away leaving Downey with only the conservative Republicans which could be amount to enough people voting independent to allow the DFL to win.
However, state house races dont really get publicity, Id say about 95% of people dont know their state representatives, if they do vote for one or the other, it’s probably based on party line voting. So a lot of these moderate conservatives who we could say we would peel off for Ernhardt probably wont know the difference and will just vote Republican like always, amounting to a GOP win.
If the DFL were to win, it’d probably have very little to do with Ernhardt and more with Obama coattails.
March 9th, 2008 at 9:21 am
Although state house seats I guess could be campaigned more heavily than I think. I’ve only lived in two districts, Emmer’s in Albertville and Murphy’s in St. Paul, both being incredibly safe for both incumbents so campaigning doesnt really matter.
March 9th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
“Ernhardt” is going to need this win after his poor showing at Daytona.
March 9th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Now only if Abeler loses his seat.
I wouldn’t even care if a Democrat does so, the Democrat will probably be more conservative then Jim Abeler.
March 9th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
Out of sheer curiosity, could anyone on here check their grammar? I do not care if you are a DFL’er or a GOP’er, learn to spell people! We can all argue the issues, but whether you like it or not you make yourself look ignorant when you use improper grammar.
Yes, Abeler must lose his seat, he is a disgust to the GOP. Set up a meeting with him and see if he shuts off his music….
March 9th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
“he is a disgust to the GOP.”
Did you mean “disgrace”?
March 9th, 2008 at 5:29 pm
In other words, Schneider used a gay-bashing campaign to defeat Peterson. The Minnesota Family Council is a “we don’t like the homos group. In fact, they got started in 82 (as the Berean League), to make sure the sodomy statute in this state stayed in place.
March 9th, 2008 at 7:03 pm
Nice catch MoN. That cracked me up!
March 9th, 2008 at 8:57 pm
#33 -
There should be a comma after the word “spell” (Otherwise you’re advising readers to learn to spell the word “people”). Come to think of it, there should also be a comma after the word “not” in the third sentence.
Not that we’re picky, but you asked for it.
March 9th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
Is any one else getting tired of the pity party that Abeler and Erhardt are throwing around….just watched part of the 10 pm news and they were both the big ol’ bullies….grow up you two and realize your actions have consequences.
March 9th, 2008 at 10:16 pm
Let’s assume that Eva is correct that, starting in 1982, the Berean League worked “to make sure the sodomy statute in this state stayed in place.”
Now, from 1982 to 2008, the DFL controlled the State Senate continously and the State House for all but 10 years. If during that time “the sodomy statute in this state stayed in place” Eva can’t blame this on the wascally Republicans. They were not in power, for the most part, during this time period.
March 9th, 2008 at 10:49 pm
Well, then again, I do go to the Communiversity of Minnesota where anything is alright as long as it is liberal!
March 10th, 2008 at 12:38 am
Communiversity student writes, (33)”…could anyone here check their grammar?”
Communiversity student continues,(33) “We can all argue the issues, but whether you like it or not you make yourself look ignorant when you use improper grammar.”
Later on #40 communiversitystudent writes,”…I do go to the Communiversity of Minnesota where anything is alright as long as it is liberal!”
It doesn’t seem that communiversity student can “argue the issues,” by ” making statements such as “anything is alright as long as it is liberal!”
The University of Minnesota is a land grant institution [in the Constitituion of the State of Minnesota] and has at least four or five campuses that include medical hospitals and research.
I think that Erhardt and Peterson probably understand that about the U of MN.
March 10th, 2008 at 7:23 am
Where has the MSM been on the DFL’s own efforts to punish their own? Rep. Joe Mullery and Rep. Willie Dominguez both have multiple DFL opponents attempting to deny them the DFL endorsement. Why no coverage of that?
http://www.cfboard.state.mn.us/campfin/candleg.html#58
March 10th, 2008 at 8:15 am
Say, Doc?
You do realize that’s SD58, you’re talkin’ ’bout, doncha?
March 10th, 2008 at 9:36 am
Primary contests are now punishment?
The republicants are bragging about how they are knocking off their own. Democrats are simply having an election in which multiple candidates are vying for endorsement.
The way the system works is, anyone can file for office and seek the endorsement. This must be confusing for republicants who, for years, have had their candidates hand selected for them by the party leadership, eliminating the need for an endorsement and protecting you all from having to think.
March 10th, 2008 at 10:38 am
“hand selected for them by the party leadership”
I caucus so therefore I must be party leadership.
Whoo hoo! I’m running the GOP!!
And here is earth shattering news (to lefties): If you go way off to the left - I WONT SUPPORT YOU!
What’s wrong with that?
March 10th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
And here is earth shattering news (to righties): If you run on a republiCon platform - the VOTERS WON’T SUPPORT YOU!
And there’s NOTHING wrong with that!!!
Veto-proof state senate; soon to be veto-proof state house as GOP party implodes!!!
March 12th, 2008 at 4:11 am
Eight Putt:
Massive Republican landslide coming this November. Republicans might regain the majority. Only in your dream land will that happen. You can only get away once with winning and not having the voters realize that they’re going to have tax increase after tax increase shoved down their throat.
Michigan was the only state in a recession. The DFL policies are trying to make it two. The voters don’t want that.
Walter Hanson
Minneapolis, MN