Comments on: BONOFF HIDING FROM VOTE CAUSES DELAY IN MINNESOTA SENATE http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/04/03/bonoff-hiding-from-vote-causes-delay-in-minnesota-senate/ Sun, 12 Feb 2012 04:12:13 +0000 hourly 1 By: el presidente http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/04/03/bonoff-hiding-from-vote-causes-delay-in-minnesota-senate/comment-page-1/#comment-202440 el presidente Fri, 04 Apr 2008 08:42:36 +0000 http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/?p=5829#comment-202440 CORRECTION BY el presidente The motion to reconsider DID PREVAIL. The question on the ADOPTION of the RECONSIDERED MOTION, FAILED 32 yeas, 33 nays (t=65). [You can read this by clicking on TwoPuttTommy's link (post #1). It will be: Journal of the Senate: 8292; 98th day; printer page 38/141]. CORRECTION BY el presidente

The motion to reconsider DID PREVAIL.

The question on the ADOPTION of the RECONSIDERED MOTION, FAILED 32 yeas, 33 nays (t=65).

[You can read this by clicking on TwoPuttTommy's link (post #1). It will be: Journal of the Senate: 8292; 98th day; printer page 38/141].

]]> By: el presidente http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/04/03/bonoff-hiding-from-vote-causes-delay-in-minnesota-senate/comment-page-1/#comment-202403 el presidente Fri, 04 Apr 2008 04:25:19 +0000 http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/?p=5829#comment-202403 POST #7 CORRECTION/CLARIFICATION BY el presidente It seems that the REPUBLICAN Senator, Debbie J. Johnson, SD 49, DID cast an affirmative VOTE in the amendment that FAILED, 31-31 (t=62). However, it seems that she DID NOT VOTE on the motion to reconsider that DID NOT PREVAIL, 32-33 (t=65). ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ All 22 Republican Senators therefore, as a single group, seemed to have voted to not tax GOVERNMENT [military] PENSIONS. I think however, as a group, that the Republicans will not do the same for other GOVERNMENTAL WORKERS. In fact, I think that they will attempt to slash the budgets of those workers. POST #7 CORRECTION/CLARIFICATION BY el presidente

It seems that the REPUBLICAN Senator, Debbie J. Johnson, SD 49, DID cast an affirmative VOTE in the amendment that FAILED, 31-31 (t=62).

However, it seems that she DID NOT VOTE on the motion to reconsider that DID NOT PREVAIL, 32-33 (t=65).

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All 22 Republican Senators therefore, as a single group, seemed to have voted to not tax GOVERNMENT [military] PENSIONS.

I think however, as a group, that the Republicans will not do the same for other GOVERNMENTAL WORKERS. In fact, I think that they will attempt to slash the budgets of those workers.

]]> By: el presidente http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/04/03/bonoff-hiding-from-vote-causes-delay-in-minnesota-senate/comment-page-1/#comment-202401 el presidente Fri, 04 Apr 2008 04:01:35 +0000 http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/?p=5829#comment-202401 45 Democrats + 22 Republicans = 67 Senators +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Amendment FAILS on a vote of 31 yeas, 31 nays = 62 Not voting: 5 Senators = (67-62) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Motion to Reconsider FAILS; 32 yeas, 33 nays = 65 Not voting: 2 Senators = (67-65) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ el presidente [with the helpful link from TwoPuttTommy] tracked down a REPUBLICAN Senator who it seems did NOT vote on the amendment that failed, 31-31. The Republican Senator was one of five (5) Senators who did NOT vote on the 31 to 31 vote. However this same Republican Senator is on record of voting on the motion to reconsider. This motion FAILED 32-33. Two DIFFERENT Senators did not vote on the motion to reconsider. Some presidential advice: there is a difference between good governance and bad politics. 45 Democrats + 22 Republicans = 67 Senators
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Amendment FAILS on a vote of 31 yeas, 31 nays = 62

Not voting: 5 Senators = (67-62)
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Motion to Reconsider FAILS; 32 yeas, 33 nays = 65

Not voting: 2 Senators = (67-65)
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el presidente [with the helpful link from TwoPuttTommy] tracked down a REPUBLICAN Senator who it seems did NOT vote on the amendment that failed, 31-31.

The Republican Senator was one of five (5) Senators who did NOT vote on the 31 to 31 vote.

However this same Republican Senator is on record of voting on the motion to reconsider. This motion FAILED 32-33.

Two DIFFERENT Senators did not vote on the motion to reconsider.

Some presidential advice: there is a difference between good governance and bad politics.

]]> By: el presidente http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/04/03/bonoff-hiding-from-vote-causes-delay-in-minnesota-senate/comment-page-1/#comment-202381 el presidente Fri, 04 Apr 2008 02:42:55 +0000 http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/?p=5829#comment-202381 The vote on the amendment FAILED 31 to 31 (t=62) The vote to RECONSIDER the amendment FAILED 32 to 30 (t=62) Therefore it seems that one (1) person moved from the AYE column, to the NAY column. The vote on the amendment FAILED 31 to 31 (t=62)

The vote to RECONSIDER the amendment FAILED 32 to 30 (t=62) Therefore it seems that one (1) person moved from the AYE column, to the NAY column.

]]> By: Hi-Ten http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/04/03/bonoff-hiding-from-vote-causes-delay-in-minnesota-senate/comment-page-1/#comment-202359 Hi-Ten Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:52:05 +0000 http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/?p=5829#comment-202359 Whisky...Tango...Foxtrot..? Whisky…Tango…Foxtrot..?

]]> By: el presidente http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/04/03/bonoff-hiding-from-vote-causes-delay-in-minnesota-senate/comment-page-1/#comment-202291 el presidente Thu, 03 Apr 2008 19:01:31 +0000 http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/?p=5829#comment-202291 In TPT's link I found an attempted amendment SF 2869 No aid for cities with sanctuary ordinances. It was to amend Section 12, MS 2006, section 477A.013 by adding a subdivision [12] to read "...Any aid that would otherwise go to a city under that section shall be redistributed to OTHER cities . . . " It seems as if some [mostly Republican] Senators want to TAKE money ($$$$$) from Mpls. & St. Paul and REDISTRIBUTE IT TO THEIR CITIES? It seems to me that I have heard of this tax-like concept being trashed before on RIGHT WING RADIO. Santa vaca [Holy cow]! In TPT’s link I found an attempted amendment SF 2869 No aid for cities with sanctuary ordinances. It was to amend Section 12, MS 2006, section 477A.013 by adding a subdivision [12] to read “…Any aid that would otherwise go to a city under that section shall be redistributed to OTHER cities . . . ”

It seems as if some [mostly Republican] Senators want to TAKE money ($$$$$) from Mpls. & St. Paul and REDISTRIBUTE IT TO THEIR CITIES?

It seems to me that I have heard of this tax-like concept being trashed before on RIGHT WING RADIO.

Santa vaca [Holy cow]!

]]> By: loris http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/04/03/bonoff-hiding-from-vote-causes-delay-in-minnesota-senate/comment-page-1/#comment-202282 loris Thu, 03 Apr 2008 18:22:27 +0000 http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/?p=5829#comment-202282 Probably the most blatant example of her hiding her true far letftwing liberal beliefs. Probably the most blatant example of her hiding her true far letftwing liberal beliefs.

]]> By: Master of None http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/04/03/bonoff-hiding-from-vote-causes-delay-in-minnesota-senate/comment-page-1/#comment-202246 Master of None Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:35:42 +0000 http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/?p=5829#comment-202246 She voted right before her missed vote, and she voted right after her missed vote. What happened? Maybe she drank too much iced tea? She voted right before her missed vote, and she voted right after her missed vote.

What happened?

Maybe she drank too much iced tea?

]]> By: TwoPuttTommy http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/04/03/bonoff-hiding-from-vote-causes-delay-in-minnesota-senate/comment-page-1/#comment-202245 TwoPuttTommy Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:22:42 +0000 http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/?p=5829#comment-202245 Here's the link to the .pdf on how senators voted; the votes in question start on page 35 of 141: http://www.senate.leg.state.mn.us/journals/2007-2008/20080402098.pdf#Page11 Here’s the link to the .pdf on how senators voted; the votes in question start on page 35 of 141:

http://www.senate.leg.state.mn.us/journals/2007-2008/20080402098.pdf#Page11

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