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STAR TRIBUNE: “POLITICAL PARTIES TO MEDIA: GET NOSES OUT OF OUR TENTS”
By Michael B. Brodkorb | May 15, 2008
“As local Democratic and Republican endorsing conventions have unfolded this spring, members of both parties have become camera-shy.
Representatives of mainstream media outlets bearing video and audio equipment have been sent packing, along with partisan bloggers who have been trying to keep an eye on what members of the other party are up to.
Although it appears to have happened more often at GOP events, both sides have booted observers, at one point showing the door to the St. Cloud daily newspaper and Minnesota Public Radio.
Representatives of both parties say such calls are made strictly by local officials — not by the state parties.
That may be so, say bloggers from opposite sides of the partisan divide, but they also agree that the doors should be left open to anyone who wants to cover a convention and abide by party rules.” Source: Star Tribune, May 15, 2008
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“Different views, same page
Both Michael McIntee, the Uptake’s executive producer, and Michael Brodkorb, the author of Minnesota Democrats Exposed, uncharacteristically find themselves on the same page on the issue.
‘These conventions should be open to bloggers from both political parties,’ Brodkorb said. ‘Sure, it’s their [convention organizers'] right to set their own rules, but if you follow the rules, let people cover it.’” Source: Star Tribune, May 15, 2008
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29 Responses to “STAR TRIBUNE: “POLITICAL PARTIES TO MEDIA: GET NOSES OUT OF OUR TENTS””
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May 15th, 2008 at 11:49 pm
I did have to chuckle when I read that you and Mike McIntee were on the same page.
May 16th, 2008 at 1:09 am
In the same article Gavin Sullivan said, “You’d think the system could accommodate both neutral journalists and bloggers.”
So trackers [looking for a damaging "macaca" moment], neutral journalists and bloggers, partisan journalists and bloggers, should be allowed in after following the previously “set rules.”
The State Political Parties generally endorse openness but, give the local units, local control.
It sounds nice, if everyone cooperates, and makes the system(s) and rules work, however, it seems as if there are some [serious] breakdowns.
Adversarial process, tracking, & political gamesmanship vs openness and transparency.
May 16th, 2008 at 9:34 am
Just a clarification, please. If the rules of the convention clearly state that there will be no video of the event without express permission, you’re OK with that?
May 16th, 2008 at 9:54 am
Where is your coverage of the legislature? I thought you were supposed to be a political blog?
May 16th, 2008 at 10:03 am
There is no reason to let anyone from the opposition in to your convention.
This is just stupid.
What do you hope to accomplish by letting Michael into a DFL convention. That he will see the candidate and go “Wow, I was wrong all along I think I will support the DFL”.
He is there for one reason only, to find some person say or do something stupid.
All this does is force convention organizer to try and “control” the events and make sure that no one does or says anything that might hurt anyones feelings.
Please, someone explain the good that comes from letting the opposition into your convention.
May 16th, 2008 at 10:09 am
Gavin Sullivan is a stalker who has posted the home address of a candidate as well as pictures of the candidates house on his blog.
He should be personally banned from any GOP event.
He makes Eva Young seem almost reasonable. (almost)
May 16th, 2008 at 10:16 am
Gavin Sullivan attempted to ask Eric Paulsen a number of policy questions, and Paulsen refused to talk to him.
Seems funny that on the same site that makes such a big stink about Al Franken’s accountant not talking to a blogger, that there isn’t a cry for Paulsen to talk open and honestly to Sullivan.
Or, do the rules only work one way?
May 16th, 2008 at 10:24 am
Sullivan isn’t interested in honest discussion. He’s a pathetic little man trying to be something he’s not.
May 16th, 2008 at 10:31 am
I could say the same about Michael.
May 16th, 2008 at 10:49 am
and you’d be wrong
May 16th, 2008 at 11:15 am
And so would you.
May 16th, 2008 at 11:31 am
Eva Young: “I did have to chuckle…”
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Eva started out with a CHUCKLE. Perhaps her writing about her chuckle indicates much about being completely open vs being completely closed; or being semi-open vs being semi-closed; [more].
I stood next to both the person with the camera, and the person in charge of the event, when the verbal exchange [that I witnessed] took place.
Sometimes if political folks would use their ASSERTIVE skills, they could avoid at least some of these AGGRESSIVE snits.
May 16th, 2008 at 1:25 pm
Here’s an example of Sullivan’s “honest” questions for Erik Paulsen
“Well, I’ve now written an email every day to Rep. Erik Paulsen, …. In my most recent emails, I’m simply providing my home address to Rep. Paulsen—see above—and asking him who my state representative is.”
Does Gavin Sullivan HONESTLY not know who his state representative is? Is he HONESTLY that stupid?
May 16th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Paulsen said he was not going to waste time answering complex policy issues, so Sullivan called his bluff, and asked who his legislator was.
If that is too complex for Paulsen, I can’t imagine he would make a good member of congress.
May 16th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
Thank you for proving my point.
The purpose of having opposition folks serves no interest of those who are having the convention.
Do you think that Gavin is going to change his mind based on being able to attend the convention?
What is the point of letting him or Eva at a GOP convention, same for DFL, what do you possible hope to gain from having Michaels there.
Do you think he will hear Al’s speech and go – I was wrong, I must now write good things about him.
Not even sure that the GOP is served by having Star Tribune or MPR at the convention.
I did some checking and had to look to find any positive articles to come out.
Usually some article about some small disagreement that happened.
May 16th, 2008 at 3:24 pm
“What do you hope to accomplish by letting Michael into a DFL convention.”
The hope is that Michael will see for himself what is and/or has happened, and that if he chooses to blog on what he sees/saw, he will blog honestly.
Which, of course, Michael has done. Michael takes his reputation very seriously. It is clear to me Michael has a code of ethics he strives to follow. I many not agree with all of those ethics – but then again, Michael doesn’t agree with all of mine.
That’s one reason why Michael has been invited and welcomed to DFL Events.
Two more reasons are transparency and openness. Sunshine is the great disinfectant in government. Anybody here remember what the 6th Major Reform Item in the Contract On America was?
May 16th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Too bad tommy your reputation does not afford you such a pass.
What are we giving up the twopudd part of the name now, or did you just post under yet another name puddles?
I see you got the Blue Man worked up and worried someone is stalking you?
Maybe you should not have your family history all over the internet dumbass. At least not when you are trying to start trouble with someone.
May 16th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
I’ve emailed Erik Paulsen many times both with substantive, issues-based questions and with the pristinely innocuous ‘who is my representative?’ question. Paulsen and his staff will not reply to any inquiry from me. In a public setting in late April, I asked Paulsen why he refused to respond to my inquiries; he provided one and only one reason: He said he wouldn’t respond because he considers me insincere. He refused to provide any evidence. (Were he to demonstrate convincingly that I’d achieved insincerity on some point, he’d also have to explain why that fact justifies his refusal to explain his position on Darfur, whether he still supports the death penalty or whether he favors capital punishment for women who have first-trimester abortions, for example.) I find Paulsen’s rationale unmanly and narcissistic, needless to say–and suggestive of a candidate unfit for high federal office. I’ve had civil interchanges with numerous Republican candidates and officeholders; Paulsen is unusual in this respect, to phrase it mildly. (I interviewed Barb Davis White face-to-face in Minneapolis yesterday, without incident.)
A commenter above has taken me to task for revealing a candidate’s address. Alas, your quarrel is with the telephone directory, not Gavin Sullivan.
May 16th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Did you not post this information along with a Zillow photograph of his house?
What was the purpose of doing that?
Maybe by asking your “pristinely innocuous ‘who is my representative?’” question, you’ve revealed your insincerity.
Alas, you’re an ass
May 16th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
I have read some of Gavin Sullivan’s Page blog, have looked at at least one of his videos, and have read his comments in the StarTribune.
I have not met him in person, that I can recall.
If there seems to be different standards on the quality of writing and monitoring on MDE, then it seems to me that there must be conflicts in the openness that the state political parties espouse, and the local level of control that that the state parties also want, and the variables inbetween.
May 16th, 2008 at 5:23 pm
I remain mystified by why, before Erik Paulsen answers my question on Darfur, a town meeting needs to be called to adjudicate my sincerity.
Please contact Zillow if you object to their website.
May 16th, 2008 at 5:29 pm
Niether Zillow nor the telephone directory posted anything on your website without your assistance.
You don’t seem so good at answering questions yourself.
May 16th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
Gavin, dude…you have MNBlue on your blogroll fer chissake. You might just as well leave the tin-foil hat on for pictures.
May 16th, 2008 at 8:14 pm
Say, dolt #1?
You can comment under any name you wan’t li’l man…you’ll always be dolt #1 to me.
May 16th, 2008 at 9:35 pm
…or did you just post under yet another name puddle?”
My friends know me as “TwoPutt”. I am now posting as “Tommy Johnson” so:
1 – assholes like NotSoSwiftly no longer think they’re “cute”, and
2 – assholes like you know that you’re not my friend.
Get it, puke?
May 16th, 2008 at 9:37 pm
You’re a sick man, NotSoSwiftly.
I won’t cry when they round you up.
May 16th, 2008 at 11:06 pm
Perhaps Congress thought that it granted a “sick woman” a reprieve during a midnight session.
The woman’s name was Terri Schiavo.
Perhaps now it seems that a poster(s) has labeled another poster, a “sick man.”
It is 11:00 pm CST. Probably past midnight in Washington, DC.
Not only have the noses been under the tents, as the MDE title indicates, but it seems the noses of the late night posters are also considerably out of joint.
Perhaps a 9:37 pm previous post time meant that all isn’t so bad, and that posters are off to bed on a Friday night.
May 18th, 2008 at 11:32 am
I have been following Sullivan’s blog for a while as a fellow CD3 citizen. It provides me daily humor much like an occasional turn of the dial to AM 950. Just keeps me certain that I am on the right side of the issues.
It is “bloggers/stalkers” like Gavin Sullivan that give the rest of us a bad name. I just started a blog two months ago and probably have as many postings as Sullivan. Does that put me in the same category as Michael Brodberg or MN Publius, NO. Do I expect that if I email Ashwin Madia everday about who is my state representative or ask him his stance on every issue known to man that he should respond, NO. Why, because I am am rational.
If you want more evidence of Gavin Sullivan’s kookieness, just read his own blog, gavinsullivan.blogspot.com. He details his attempts to aggravate Republicans at their own events. Please someone find a Republican activist or blogger that has done the same kinds of things at DFL functions and then bragged about it.
Sullivan now thinks that because Erik Paulsen does not bow down to him with an email response that he is committing ethics violations and has filed a complaint with the CD3 Republicans.
Final note, as relatively new poster to blogs, I find it irritating that we have to swear and call each other names. It detracts from any point you are trying to make.
May 18th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
twice blessed: “Does that put me in the same category as Michael Brodberg or MN Publius,NO.”
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You probably mean do you, as a political blogger, have the kind of notoriousness as Michael BrodKORB [not berg], and does your blog as well know as MN Publius.
You seem to have answered your own question(s) however, I’m still laughing because I thought of some other answers [and questions] to your original question:”Does that put me in the same category as Michael Brodberg and MN Publius.”
~WHICH CATEGORY ARE MICHAEL BRODBERG AND [his apparent work of art] MN PUBLIUS IN?
+ Minnesota Nicest in One E-Z Lesson?
+ The Brodkorb we never knew?
+ Do you Believe in Miracles?
Indeed your name really is TWICE BLESSED. One for the Republicans and one for the Democrats.