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RNC UNVEILS CLOCK COUNTING DAYS SINCE OBAMA VISITED IRAQ; OBAMA REJECTS VISITING IRAQ WITH MCCAIN
By Michael B. Brodkorb | May 28, 2008
As I promised before, I will be posting more information on the presidential race. Today, the RNC unveiled a “online clock counting the days since Obama’s last visit to Iraq.” Senator Obama hasn’t been to Iraq since January 2006, which is surprising since he is running for president.
I also found if puzzling and odd that Senator Obama rejected Senator McCain’s suggestion that the both of them visit Iraq together. This post from National Review has more on Obama rejecting McCain’s offer.
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May 28th, 2008 at 11:56 pm
Did I miss something?
Is Obama running for president of Iraq?
While John McCain holds publicity stunts in the middle east, Obama is out talking to Americans about health care, education and other issues that actually matter to them. Are we in Iraq, and will we be there when Obama takes office? Sure. But I fail to see the difference between the sugar coated briefings he would get from commanders on the ground versus those he is currently getting as a Senator and candidate for president.
What is more curious to me is why, if John McCain truly believes we will be in Iraq, “forever”, he is even spending time there. With his mind made up, perhaps he should spend more time in this country trying to figure out why an increasing number of Americans are turning against the party he is heading.
May 29th, 2008 at 12:34 am
Yeah this is ridiculous? what does Obama going to Iraq matter?
May 29th, 2008 at 2:37 am
Ya, and I’ll bet the clock uses ARABIC numerals, too!
May 29th, 2008 at 2:48 am
[...] TONY PHYRILLAS wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptToday, the RNC unveiled a “online clock counting the days since Obama’s last visit to Iraq.†Senator Obama hasn’t been to Iraq since January 2006, which is surprising since he is running for president. … [...]
May 29th, 2008 at 8:04 am
If Obama actually visited Iraq, he’d have to face the soldiers he disrespects and slanders. He’d have to face the reality of the massive success those soldiers are delivering. And he’d no longer be able to bury his ignorant, unaccomplished, phony thin-skinned head in the sand.
Obama is out there talking about shit. If anyone actually listed to his words, they’d realize the vast emptiness of his rhetoric.
Obama makes Dan Quayle look brilliant. He’s an ignorant fool with no record of accomplishment. He talks a good game… but so do all hustlers.
I think we rejected the failed policies of Jimmy Carter over 28 years ago. I really think we should continue to reject Jimmy Carter’s policies by sending Obama back to Illinois.
May 29th, 2008 at 8:07 am
Yoni,
That phony clown, Obama thinks he has foreign policy credentials. Arguably, Iraq is the most important foreign policy issue facing this country. I think it would be a good idea if the fool who wants to be Commander in Chief would actually spend some time with the soldiers he despises, and get some first-hand knowledge of the issue he’ll have to deal with.
Of course, it would be a good idea if Obama read a history book or two. It’s pretty clear his head is up his ass in that regard.
May 29th, 2008 at 8:19 am
“I also found if puzzling and odd that Senator Obama rejected Senator McCain’s suggestion that the both of them visit Iraq together”
Of course you did, Michael.
Consider this: why should The Future President share any of his popularity and spotlight with The Future Viagra Spokesman?
May 29th, 2008 at 8:51 am
Yep, why go to Iraq, like every other senator has over the past few years? Why talk with General Patryus (sp?) and see things with your own eyes, instead of through the harpie lapdogs at moveon.org?
Its quite telling that a presidential candidate would say he will meet, “WITH NO PRECONDITIONS”, with the leaders of North Korea, Iran, or Venezuela…but NOT meet with our generals in Iraq.
Its just another example of the true and real hatred that liberals like Obama have for our military and how little they care about national security.
May 29th, 2008 at 9:05 am
Is Scott McClellen going?? This whole war is a scam.
May 29th, 2008 at 9:09 am
Obama is too chicken shit to appear at a debate hosted by Brit Hume, what makes anyone think that gutless coward could travel to Iraq and sit face to face with the soldiers he disparages?
The last thing this country needs is a Jimmy Carter/Obama administration.
May 29th, 2008 at 9:09 am
Our company CEO travels to all our manufacturing plants around the globe. Sure he gets all the financial and production numbers but nothing ever beats first hand observation. There is no way he could have a complete picture without doing it.
This would go double for our Commander-in-Chief.
But Obama can’t go to Iraq. How could he face the Iraqi people knowing that, if he is elected Commander-in-Chief and yanks out the troops as promised, he will be sending them all in to a tumultuous hell? Plus it is easier for him to ignore progress, no matter how late in coming, if you just stay at home and listen to the mindless droning of failure from the ultra-leftists that he embraces.
The last time the lefties forced our troops to withdraw it resulted in the murder of 2 to 3 million people. Killing Fields? Yeah, let’s repeat that. You can make a lot of good arguments about why we should never have gone to Iraq in the first place but there is no argument for pull out before stabilization has been achieved.
May 29th, 2008 at 9:11 am
Yeah, this whole war is about oil. That sure has worked out well, huh?
Scotty’s just trying to make a buck. And unless you rip the Bush Administration, you don’t sell books or get even a passing look by the Media. If he wrote a loving account of Bush…he’d only be asked to speak on a public access cable show, airing at 3am. Not on Today…and the whole talkshow circuit.
May 29th, 2008 at 9:17 am
And when Obama invites each member of the Hall of Doom to the White House, just what parts of our economic and national security do you think that vacuous bastard will sell off?
May 29th, 2008 at 9:28 am
I agree with you Chestnut, Obama is nothing special and Jimmy Carter is the biggest douche-bag ever to hold elected office.
I would have to argue that our current ME policy has failed also. Iraq has not given stability to the US or any of our allies, it changed the political landscape in the ME and has created an even more powerful Iran and has limited our ability to deal with their nuclear program. The American people wouldn’t accept another invasion, no matter how important it may be to our security, Israel’s security, or the overall stability in the ME.
Iraq has emboldened terrorists throughout the region and we are less capable of doing anything about it.
May 29th, 2008 at 9:32 am
Iraq is a mess, but there is no way Obama is going to get an accurate view of the situation by visiting there. Do you honestly think he could have a conversation with normal Iraqis and be able to travel freely around the country? There is also no way Joe Blow soldier is going to tell him the real situation with his superiors breathing down his neck.
There are plenty of Iraqi veterans in the US already that can give Obama a real perspective of what is really happening in Iraq. I imagine he has heard from quite a few of them already.
McCain and Bush can spin this “war” as much as they want, but it’s a failure. That’s not due to the soldiers, but instead from leadership of the President and the cronies he appointed who didn’t know what the hell they were doing. To invade a country by choice and have no plan to provide stability and rebuilding afterwards is absurd. What is disgraceful is the thousands who have died and been injured because of it.
May 29th, 2008 at 9:40 am
My response to Yoni:
“Iraq has not given stability to the US or any of our allies.”
How so? First, the U.S. has not been “unstable” since 1857. I doubt anyone looks to the Middle East for our “stability.” In the present, however, support for Al Queda has dropped precipitously, and in fact, AQI is all but defeated, there have been no terrorist attacks on the U.S. or its interests since 2004 (2003?). And our Allies (Britain, Germany, France, etc.) have all held elections strengthening their ties to the U.S. and its polices. The idea that our standing is diminished in the world is laugh-worthy.
“it changed the political landscape in the ME.”
Boy howdy!
“and has created an even more powerful Iran and has limited our ability to deal with their nuclear program.”
Our inability to deal with Iran’s nuclear power is directly related to the fact that the going through the U.N. is a significant part of the strategy. We have no limits in dealing with Iran if we need to. The idea that we are limited in any capacity is also laugh-worthy.
“The American people wouldn’t accept another invasion, no matter how important it may be to our security,”
You underestimate the will and fortitude of the American people.
“Iraq has emboldened terrorists throughout the region and we are less capable of doing anything about it.”
Bullshit.
May 29th, 2008 at 9:41 am
And by the way Yoni, how is Obama’s proposal of further strengthening Iran’s hand going to help the U.S., its allies or any of our interests?
May 29th, 2008 at 9:44 am
Ben, you’re probably right. I can get a pretty good idea of what it’s like to live in the Himalayas by reading about it on Wikipedia.
I mean, I don’t even go to restaurants anymore. I just read the reviews. It’s the same thing as having a meal there.
You’re an idiot.
May 29th, 2008 at 9:52 am
ManMoron says: “How could he face the Iraqi people knowing that, if he is elected Commander-in-Chief and yanks out the troops as promised, he will be sending them all in to a tumultuous hell?”
As opposed to the gloriously happy times they’re enjoying in Iraq under the oily Bush-Coleman war? The American people are more interested in bringing our troops home from the tumultuous hell called Iraq, ManMoron. By the way, have you served?
May 29th, 2008 at 10:00 am
Yeah, CE… the Iraqi people are really pissed at having opportunity for the first time in 40 years.
May 29th, 2008 at 10:02 am
… the Iraqi’s also long for the days of Saddam’s rape rooms and mass graves. Those were the good ol’ days.
May 29th, 2008 at 10:26 am
You know what, Chestnut? Saddam has been dead for more than a year.
How about we stipulate that it is rather unlikely that his rape rooms and mass graves will return, as, afterall, dead guys are bad at organizing stuff, and we bring our troops home.
I come from a silly wing of the electorate where I would rather support our troops by bringing them home than by showing them the fancy new wing in Arlington Cemetery we have built to house their remains when they are finally killed by a roadside IED.
If Obama is truly worried about seeing all the success in Iraq, then I can’t imagine y’all would mind if he started bringing the troops home, as the mission appears to have been accomplished.
May 29th, 2008 at 10:32 am
Chestnut,
Its not, Obama’s is a joke, he doesn’t have the experience to be President or the balls to confront Iran. The only bigger joke than Obama is the UN.
Concerning the UN, we used our invasion without UN/Intl approval card on Iraq, that is why we are depending on the UN and diplomatic channels/bullshit sanctions(which obviously won’t work). You may try to refute this, but our actions(using the UN) illustrates our inability to do anything alone like we did in Iraq.
Iran is getting very very close to having a nuclear capability. latest intelligence estimates say they can have it by 2009. Frankly this scares the shit out of me, but like it or not, Bush’s approval rating is in the 20s. Without some kind of altercation instigated by Iran it will be hard to persuade Congress or the American people that Iran needs to be stopped. The only solace here is the current administration knows that for the next 8 years there will be a democratic president and their only chance to stop Iran is before the new president takes office.
The war in Iraq became a 5 year smokescreen for Iran to work on their nuclear program basically unabated. Bush went after the wrong enemy. Sure Saddam was a dictator, torturer, etc. etc. But he wasn’t a threat like Iran is now a threat.
May 29th, 2008 at 10:43 am
“Concerning the UN, we used our invasion without UN/Intl approval card on Iraq.”
We never needed U.N. approval. Moreover, the invasion was not without U.N. approval. From that perspective, the 2003 invasion was predicated on Iraq’s violation of the 1991 agreements, as well as subsequent U.N. resolutions allowing the use of force in the face of further non-compliance.
“Saddam was a dictator, torturer, etc. etc. But he wasn’t a threat like Iran is now a threat.”
Bullshit. At best, they were equal threats at the same time. Saddam had a long, lengthy history of supporting, training and abetting terrorists…. including those that are now part of AQ. He was a regional menace, an international criminal, and a threat to the U.S. in ways that Iran was not at the time.
Again, I ask you… how is Obama’s plan of inviting Aqua-Velva-chad to the White House and strengthening Iran’s hand going to solve any problems.
It’s amazing that Obama, who repeatedly criticizes the Iraq war AND the current situation there, can’t be bothered to go get a first hand look.
I agree with you, however, that the U.N. is a bigger joke than Obama/Carter.
Leroy,
Are you retarded?
May 29th, 2008 at 10:49 am
I know how many [probably including some on this board] could get an “all expenses paid” trip to Iraq.
It could be either officially through the USA military, or more unofficially through various para-military/contractor-type organizations.
Perhaps Barack could still qualify, perhaps MBB could still qualify; McCain is probably too old.
May 29th, 2008 at 10:54 am
Chestnut,
Taking a trip to Iraq is nothing, but a feel good gesture. Do you think the really troops care how many times Bush, McCain or Obama come to visit them? Soldiers have long ago seen through the bullshit or this administration and know their words mean nothing.
They probably have a 100 page laundry list of things they want… Better pay, better healthcare, better mental health help, better equipment… then another visit from some politican.
Do you honestly think Obama could get an accurate picture of the situation in Iraq with a visit now? Would he honestly see a day in the life of a regular solider or Iraqi with 500 press people and cameras and 1000 soliders sticking to him like glue and 5 Apache’s flying over him. Blackwater would probably kill 50 people that day just because some poor Iraqi sneezed!
Keep living in cave like Cheney, Chestnut.
May 29th, 2008 at 11:02 am
Chestnut,
Iran is the main supporter of Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad. They are giving Hamas advanced missiles and are probably a year away from a nuclear weapons program.
In no way, shape, or form was Saddam ever equally as dangerous. Well perhaps in 1981 prior to Israel’s bombing/destruction of their Osirak reactor.
International law and reality are far different Chestnut. The war was justified because of Iraq’s failure to follow through with their obligations to the UN, we both know this to be the case. The Geneva convention says its legal to destroy mosques, family residents, etc. if they are being used for military purposes, but reality says we can’t bomb them because we are scared of killing innocents, who by international law are not innocent at all. Public opinion trumps international law. it sucks, but its reality.
kind of went off on a tangent there, i apologize…
May 29th, 2008 at 11:05 am
Ben,
I think you should care whether or not the asshole you support for President has any first-hand knowledge of anything. If he has no first-hand knowledge, then maybe he should shut is phony, vacuous mouth.
Like I said, I know exactly what it takes to climb Mount Everest. I read Into Thin Air.… coincidentally, that might be the same title for a book on Obama’s policy positions.
May 29th, 2008 at 11:07 am
Yoni,
You don’t consider Saddam’s equal material support for terrorists to have been a threat? That’s a novel view.
May 29th, 2008 at 11:14 am
Saddam in 2003 was far more dangerous than Iran in 2003. Saddam gave material and financial support to a wide array of terrorist organizations, including the then PLO, and also Islamic Jihad, which is now part of Al Queda.
And more, Saddam had the French, Italians and the Russians… and the U.N. on his payroll… as his surrogates, he was close to having all sanctions removed… While at the same time, he was pursuing the reconstitution of his WMD programs, and was in violation of over a dozen U.N. resolutions regarding the same.
Yeah, you’re right… Saddam was no threat.
May 29th, 2008 at 11:55 am
Don’t forget, he also killed the Easter bunny, and told many children that Santa wasn’t real.
I mean, seriously, if you are going to make unsubstantiated statements, at least make them funny.
May 29th, 2008 at 11:58 am
There’s nothing unsubstantiated in anything I wrote, LeFuckwad. It’s all fact.
May 29th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
That seems like the sort of response a guy who can back his strange theories would make.
My bad.
May 29th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
LeFuckWad,
Try not to project your abject ignorance on the reality-based world, and things won’t seem so strange.
May 29th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
So when is the truth going to come out that Chestnut is really MDE?
May 29th, 2008 at 1:08 pm
Consider this: why should The Future President share any of his popularity and spotlight with The Future Viagra Spokesman?
I would have never guessed that Barack Hussein Obama was having a problem getting it up. Who would have thunk it?
May 29th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Coleman Exposer – Oily Colman- Bush war? Oh, they were the only two who voted for it and keep the funding rolling. Thanks for clearing that up. I thought there was a Congress or something. And look how well we are doing stealing all their oil too.
I’m sure the Iraqis will be thrilled to have our troops pull out and have their fragile system collapse into warlord/clan/faction murdering and bombing, torture and rape.
It sure did look like they hated voting, having more open schools and hospitals, more water and electricity then ever before.
Iraq has now slipped below Detroit in violence. How can they stand it?
Thank you very much. I love being corrected by obviously superior intellect.
May 29th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Average Joe, dont be delluded. Obama will be the next president. Like I really dont see a single situation of McCain winning.
Chestnut, I didnt like how you say our standing in the world hasnt gone done citing pro-American elections in France, Germany, and Britain.
France elected a conservative instead of a socialist because their economy sucked, not because of us.
Britain’s parliamentary elections last time showed a loss in Labor party seats because Brits were sick of Blair’s policies favoring Iraq. He later had to step down because of his unpopularity.
Germany, the timing appears to line up with what you are saying. She became president of Germany just as American’s started to really hate Bush. But you cant base it off of elections regardless, there are so many reasons for a country to elect their president.
May 29th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
Oh, and back to the thread topic.
Obama needs to go to Iraq. The RNC having a countdown clock is clever but pretty political advantageous in a sinister sense. It’s a bit of a low blow and far fetched. He doesnt need to go to Iraq whenever McCain wants to go and, as someone already said, why should he share any of his spotlight with McCain.
May 29th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
Obama is a phoney, but Andrew’s right… he’ll probably be the next President.
Obama is a fucking coward though. He challenged McCain to a debate, then declined conducting joint town halls and debates throughout the fall. He says he’ll unite the country, but he’s too chicken to appear in a debate hosted by Brit Hume.
If he wants to unify, maybe a good first step would be to start talking to someone other than the Leftist bullshit echo chamber and his racist reverend.
May 29th, 2008 at 5:44 pm
I’m sure Obama’s reluctance to visit Iraq stems from the fact that he would then have to face all the soldiers that are in harm’s way from Iran’s weapons, and these soldiers know damn well that Obama wants to sit and chat with the guy sending those weapons.
Obama isn’t going to have any credibility with our heroes over there.
Except, maybe he could tell them about the military blood that flows in his veins (you know, because he has an uncle or something that “liberated Auschwitz”).
What a joke this man is.