Release time for religious instruction used to be more popular when it was possible for students to walk to a local church or a local home.

As I have previously stated, if you want to tie yourselves in knots, school law is the place or one place to do it.

What about American Halloween? or a more Latino los dias de los muertos?

So you celebrate or recognize a vernal equinox? The Soviets used to have a large May Day parade. Students used to do a May Pole dance – ah, the good ole’ days.

Is there any “hidden prayer” going on at other types of Charter Schools?

SCRUTINY is that multi-bladed sword that swings in multiple ways.

“the state of Minnesota investigated KKK’s claims, and found little to no merit to anything she was printing in the state’s largest newspaper”

Wow. That’s a pretty bogus statement, even based on the article YOU provided:

“The MDE report highlighted several problem areas TiZA must address if it is to retain its charter”
“It will also have to address the issue of Communal Friday prayer.”
“The current arrangement is unacceptable, according to the MDE report”

I guess you were fooled by the bogus headline “For charter school, a murky vindication”, but next time please read the whole article before deciding that it supports your point of view.

Imagine if a Republican had demanded the firing of Nick Coleman for the lies he published following the bridge collapse last summer. LeRoyallyStupid would be outraged.

“The MDE [Minnesota Department of Education] report highlighted several problem areas TiZA must address if it is to retain its charter…. ”

And “The current arrangement is unacceptable, according to the MDE report. “Teacher participation in school religious activity is judged by context,” the report reads. “While teachers are forbidden from participating with students in religious activities when acting in their capacities as TiZA employees, teachers may take part in religious activities where the overall context makes clear that they are not participating in their official capacities.”

And… “The Friday prayer sessions may create the impression that the school is officially endorsing religion, and the MDE has instructed TiZA to modify their practices.

By the start of the 2008 school year, TiZA must begin providing transportation at the end of normal classes to students who do not participate in after-school activities.

Likewise, students “released” for Friday prayer must find a different location to pray, as state law requires that supervised religious activity during the school day “must be conducted and maintained in a place other than a public school building.” ”

Anyone who’s paid any attention recognize that every area that the MDE demanded remediation for was the subject of Katherine Kersten’s article.

The MDE investigation fully vindicated Kersten’s claims, and is calling for an end to illegal activity at that school. … contrary to what LeRoyallyStupid has to say.

I dunno. Ask 90 percent of the “reporters” at the Strib. Then ask why Nick Coleman still has a job. That isn’t just a delusional, truth-challenged liberal, he’s f’n lazy.

The State’s investigation fully vindicated everything Katherine Kersten reported, and in fact demanded remediation to three of the most significant areas of illegal activity at the school.

The fact that you would ignore documented truth to make a point proves the very level of your depravity.

If one wants to get things tied up in knots, SCHOOL LAWS are the place to look.

It is amazing how many people want to complain until the SCRUTINY game is played, and everyone and everything goes under the microscope… for the longer term.

The first charter school in the nation was in St. Paul.

When the charter schools go belly-up where do most of those students go, sometimes the very next day?

You guessed it. The local public school.

I’ve just posted Section 2., PROHIBITION AS TO AIDING SECTARIAN SCHOOL from the Minnesota Constitution. Is your local public school following the Minnesota Constitution – especially at the time of the Christian holidays of Christmas and Easter?

How about SELECTIVE outrage? Or do most people just let things go?

If there are changes to be made at a Charter School, make them.

Just keep Section 2. in mind next mid-December when talk begins again about the War on Christmas.

To back my claim, and odd thing to Chestnutz, the facts: http://www.southwestreviewnews.com/main.asp?SectionID=62&SubSectionID=128&ArticleID=2927&TM=74099.52

When a baseball player hits under .200 for long enough, he gets cut.

When a pizza delivery guy always gets lost delivering pizzas, he gets fired.

Why is it that a columnist whose political agenda nearly always trumps the facts is allowed to stay on staff?

Section 2. PROHIBITION AS TO AIDING SECTARIAN SCHOOL. In no case shall any public money or property be appropriated or used for the support of schools wherein the distinctive doctrine, creeds or tenets of any particular Christian or other religious sect are promulgated or taught.
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So there you have it Chestnut. The word “Christian” is singled out.

Doesn’t that seem a tad discriminatory to you?

What is permitted? What isn’t permitted?

Don’t you think that public school teachers in Minnesota do a pretty good job threading the needle?

Merry Christmas to you, too, maybe, I think, wait, is this a charter school, Happy Halloween, oh, those are ghosts, El dia de los muertos.

The State of Minnesota Constitution contains discriminatory language when it comes to Christian Religion!

And you are complaining on the MDE Website?

Where is Ron Carey when it comes to Reading the Constitution of the State of Minnesota?

He’s concerned about a magazine!

The fact that you would ignore documented truth to make a point proves the very level of your depravity.

From the party that is trying to fit the constitution into the same shredder that they put the notes from Dick Cheney’s private meetings with Enron into, accusing democrats of silencing public debate is high comedy.

The Department of Education (run by former Republican legislator Alice Seagren) found that KKK’s statements were nearly all unfounded, and the charges that stuck were minor compared to her allegations. The fact that you would ignore documented truth to make a point proves the very level of your depravity.

And why are you acting soooooo retarded?

How far did you make it in elementary school before you dropped out to concentrate full-time on your life’s ambition to get a Guinness Book record for repetitive self-inflicted blows to the head with a tire iron?

Not understanding the constitution is fine. Lots of people don’t. We generally call them Republicans.

But to continually make a case that even Michael, Swiftee and the rest of the echo chamber regulars won’t back you up on has to be saying something.

One thing that you will find is that people have very different perceptions of public schools, charter schools, home schools, private schools, parochial schools, tutoring, etc. and also differing perceptions within those categories.

George Will was on Charlie Rose last night. He wants competition among the schools, however, I believer that he has a child of his own that is handicapped in some way.

So it seems to me that the competition that he seeks would put his child at a disadvantage.

What Grieling did was an abuse of power. And she should resign. She has demonstrated herself unworthy of the office. She’s a disgrace.

Goddam you’re stupid.

Since you finally admit that there are no US or Minnesota constitutional issues with what she did, and you seem to have come around to the idea that what Mindy Grieling did was perfectly acceptable, and, indeed required of someone in her position, I will allow you to bow out of this fight with dignity, rather than reminding people how badly you lost this debate.

That idiot is free to write it. He’s free to do whatever the hell he wants. He’s not free from the rest of us with some sense of judgment realizing that he’s a dickhead.

He can call whatever he wants “satire…” Add that to his list of failures. Franken is a failed “satiriest.” And he has no business being joining Mark Dayton and Paul Wellstone as Minnesotas next failed Senators.

That cow should resign. And you should just use your old TwoPuttTommy handle.

She simply requested that the paper fire a columnist who is known to allow her partisanship get in the way of the facts.

And since the US Constitution didn’t help you any, here is the most relevant line from the Minnesota constitution:

Sec. 3. LIBERTY OF THE PRESS. The liberty of the press shall forever remain inviolate, and all persons may freely speak, write and publish their sentiments on all subjects, being responsible for the abuse of such right.

Literature contains legendary creatures. Bestiarum vocabulum describes beasts (animals), birds, rocks, accompanied by moral lessons.

For example the pelican, which was believed to tear open its breast to bring its young to life with its own blood, was a living representation of Jesus.

MBB/MDE MOBS, MALIGNS MINDY is what you seem to be heading towards.

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

Also, using your theory, it seems that Laura Brod and Betsy Wergin should also now resign for attempting to silence Al Franken.

No.

She suggested that they should fire her, and ask people to sign a petition saying as much.

This has as much to do with the first amendment as it does with squash farming. If you disagree, go read the first amendment again.

Whether this “output” of Al Franken is from a former job or not, it does put him in a seamier light. I know some Democrats REALLY don’t mind that at all, but I sincerely hope that enough of them do to keep this man of low character from misrepresenting Minnesota to the nation.

I don’t like internet filters, especially ones that don’t let you drill down into exactly what they are filtering. But, I have no problem with requiring libraries to filter internet access. Libraries exist to serve a purpose in their communities, but providing “uncensored” access to the internet is not necessarily one of them. You might have to pay real money for that. *shrug*

Four posts in 13 minutes. Must be a new record for you.

There are no first amendment issues with asking a private company to fire a worthless employee, and I defy you to say otherwise.

And when you call the Democrats the party of child abuse, when Mark Foley was head of the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children, and he was stalking pages, what party was he in again, I forget.

A very apt way to describe the entire DFL legislative agenda and work ethic. Ridiculously do nothing and feel-good.

Can Democrats do any better than this cadre of vacuous, socialist idiots?

What’s consistent here is Democrats racing to the bottom of the barrel in their support for that corrupt, hate-mongering pile of shit, Al Franken.

The same Mindy Greiling who flat out admitted in public that she was purposely using school funding as a political weapon?

Yes. Hippocrite.

Or, you can join the majority of the state this November who won’t be voting for Norm “Bush Light” Coleman.

No book burning required.

It would seem that Greiling was actually making a smart decision on the bill, which imposes unnecessary restrictions on libraries internet access. Sorry, asking a librarian to unblock Flickr (which is blocked in many libraries as a result of this law) is totally orwellian and unneeded.