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	<title>Comments on: MDE EXCLUSIVE: FRANKEN&#8217;S MIDWEST VALUES PAC FINED $7,200 BY FEC; FINE KEPT QUIET BY TEAM FRANKEN</title>
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		<title>By: walter hanson</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-2/#comment-227849</link>
		<dc:creator>walter hanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 23:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here we go again.  Tommy is out facted so he runs away once he knows he can&#039;t argue his losing case again!

Walter Hanson
Minneapolis, MN</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here we go again.  Tommy is out facted so he runs away once he knows he can&#8217;t argue his losing case again!</p>
<p>Walter Hanson<br />
Minneapolis, MN</p>
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		<title>By: Troy</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-2/#comment-227698</link>
		<dc:creator>Troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TommyJohnson said:

&quot;Michelle Bachmann speaks for, well, whackos&quot;

Surely you can support this slur against a majority of folks in the 6th CD with a fact or two, TommyJohnson. 

I don&#039;t think you can, and that&#039;s why many of your &quot;zingers&quot; have the rhetorical punch of a third grader calling someone a &quot;dummy&quot;. Pretty weak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TommyJohnson said:</p>
<p>&#8220;Michelle Bachmann speaks for, well, whackos&#8221;</p>
<p>Surely you can support this slur against a majority of folks in the 6th CD with a fact or two, TommyJohnson. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you can, and that&#8217;s why many of your &#8220;zingers&#8221; have the rhetorical punch of a third grader calling someone a &#8220;dummy&#8221;. Pretty weak.</p>
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		<title>By: All Else Failed &#187; MDE EXCLUSIVE: FRANKENâ€™S MIDWEST VALUES PAC FINED $7,200 BY FEC;&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-2/#comment-227602</link>
		<dc:creator>All Else Failed &#187; MDE EXCLUSIVE: FRANKENâ€™S MIDWEST VALUES PAC FINED $7,200 BY FEC;&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 03:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] MDE EXCLUSIVE: FRANKENâ€™S MIDWEST VALUES PAC FINED $7,200 BY FEC;&#8230; Specifically, Frankenâ€™s PAC failed to file their Post General Report &#8230; all of Frankenâ€™s legal problems, Iâ€™m sure that someone else will be [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] MDE EXCLUSIVE: FRANKENâ€™S MIDWEST VALUES PAC FINED $7,200 BY FEC;&#8230; Specifically, Frankenâ€™s PAC failed to file their Post General Report &#8230; all of Frankenâ€™s legal problems, Iâ€™m sure that someone else will be [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Swiftee</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-2/#comment-227579</link>
		<dc:creator>Swiftee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 03:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Walter, Cheeto boy is in a snack food coma; try again tomorrow at daybreak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Walter, Cheeto boy is in a snack food coma; try again tomorrow at daybreak.</p>
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		<title>By: Walter</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-2/#comment-227561</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 02:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay Tommy:

     You think I&#039;m embarrassing myself.

     Are you trying to deny by the standard you have used that Al Franken isn&#039;t a crook?

     And just curious in 2002 when they were giving those speeches were they saying do it for the chairman of the DFL party?  No!  They said do it for Paul!  Senator Tom Harkin and others thought he was the face of the DFL party in Minnesota or were they lying?

     Walter Hanson
     Minneapolis, MN</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay Tommy:</p>
<p>     You think I&#8217;m embarrassing myself.</p>
<p>     Are you trying to deny by the standard you have used that Al Franken isn&#8217;t a crook?</p>
<p>     And just curious in 2002 when they were giving those speeches were they saying do it for the chairman of the DFL party?  No!  They said do it for Paul!  Senator Tom Harkin and others thought he was the face of the DFL party in Minnesota or were they lying?</p>
<p>     Walter Hanson<br />
     Minneapolis, MN</p>
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		<title>By: Swiftee</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-2/#comment-227514</link>
		<dc:creator>Swiftee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, are you suggesting that you want to do your &quot;Cheeto Boy&quot; ads nekkid, &quot;johnson&quot;?

Bad idea. The idea is to make fat losers (such as yourself) want to get up off the couch and buy more Cheeto&#039;s, not put people off food altogether!

Have another Twinkie and think it over some more.

Hahahahahaaaa!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, are you suggesting that you want to do your &#8220;Cheeto Boy&#8221; ads nekkid, &#8220;johnson&#8221;?</p>
<p>Bad idea. The idea is to make fat losers (such as yourself) want to get up off the couch and buy more Cheeto&#8217;s, not put people off food altogether!</p>
<p>Have another Twinkie and think it over some more.</p>
<p>Hahahahahaaaa!</p>
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		<title>By: TommyJohnson</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-2/#comment-227502</link>
		<dc:creator>TommyJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m pretty sure your sister would like her supply of full-frontal male nudity back, &quot;Swiftee.&quot;

So give it up, boy - and get a job.  Then you&#039;ll be able to buy your own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure your sister would like her supply of full-frontal male nudity back, &#8220;Swiftee.&#8221;</p>
<p>So give it up, boy &#8211; and get a job.  Then you&#8217;ll be able to buy your own.</p>
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		<title>By: Swiftee</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-2/#comment-227500</link>
		<dc:creator>Swiftee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Say, &quot;johnson&quot;?

Any truth in the rumor that Frito Lay has offered you a job as &quot;Cheeto Boy&quot;? 

Kind of like the &quot;Subway guy&quot; except in reverse, right?

Listen, I think you&#039;ll get a lot more respect as the fat, stupid, loser stuffing Cheeto&#039;s in your pie hole on TV than you do as &quot;Loserpundit&quot;...plus I&#039;m pretty sure your mom would like her basement back, boy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say, &#8220;johnson&#8221;?</p>
<p>Any truth in the rumor that Frito Lay has offered you a job as &#8220;Cheeto Boy&#8221;? </p>
<p>Kind of like the &#8220;Subway guy&#8221; except in reverse, right?</p>
<p>Listen, I think you&#8217;ll get a lot more respect as the fat, stupid, loser stuffing Cheeto&#8217;s in your pie hole on TV than you do as &#8220;Loserpundit&#8221;&#8230;plus I&#8217;m pretty sure your mom would like her basement back, boy.</p>
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		<title>By: surly</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-2/#comment-227498</link>
		<dc:creator>surly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tommy fails to recognize sarcasm, addresses my question as if it&#039;s sincere, and despite being handed (in his mind) the biggest of softballs, he STILL manages to avoid answering the question - a failure he promptly blames on others.

Classic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tommy fails to recognize sarcasm, addresses my question as if it&#8217;s sincere, and despite being handed (in his mind) the biggest of softballs, he STILL manages to avoid answering the question &#8211; a failure he promptly blames on others.</p>
<p>Classic.</p>
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		<title>By: hottip</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-2/#comment-227496</link>
		<dc:creator>hottip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tommy Johnson = NON FACTOR</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tommy Johnson = NON FACTOR</p>
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		<title>By: TommyJohnson</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-2/#comment-227495</link>
		<dc:creator>TommyJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;Wow. An attack on my person with no factual basis. &quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Doncha hate it, when what republiCons do is done back at ya?

Except in your case, it is factual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;Wow. An attack on my person with no factual basis. &#8220;</em></p>
<p>Doncha hate it, when what republiCons do is done back at ya?</p>
<p>Except in your case, it is factual.</p>
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		<title>By: TommyJohnson</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-2/#comment-227493</link>
		<dc:creator>TommyJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Walter, give it up.  You&#039;re embarrassing yourself.

Paul Wellstone spoke for Paul Wellstone, just as Jim Ramstad speaks for Jim Ramstad and Michelle Bachmann speaks for, well, whackos.

Which, of course, means she speaks for you, &#039;cause you&#039;re really, Really, REALLY out there, Walter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walter, give it up.  You&#8217;re embarrassing yourself.</p>
<p>Paul Wellstone spoke for Paul Wellstone, just as Jim Ramstad speaks for Jim Ramstad and Michelle Bachmann speaks for, well, whackos.</p>
<p>Which, of course, means she speaks for you, &#8217;cause you&#8217;re really, Really, REALLY out there, Walter.</p>
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		<title>By: Walter</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-2/#comment-227490</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tommy:

    What office is Meldanez running for?

President?

Senator?

House?

He isn&#039;t the face of the DFL party until he runs for office.  To use that logic Paul Wellstone wasn&#039;t the person who spoke for the DFL and their ideas.  What an insult to the great Paul Wellstone!  Since Wellstone is in heaven and you seem to be going the other direction he won&#039;t get a chance to try to correct that stupid thinking.

You say that Norm Coleman is trying to use Ron Carey as a shield.  Last time I looked Tommy Norm when he holds a press conference doesn&#039;t have Ron Carey with him just like Al doesn&#039;t have this Mel character running around with him.

  No matter how you spin it Tommy Boy Al by your own standards is a crook who doesn&#039;t deserve a vote for US Senate.  It looks like if you&#039;re going to be honest with what you&#039;re preaching you&#039;re voting for the Independence Party or the Green party&#039;s candidate for US Senate since Tommy Johnson doesn&#039;t support crooks.

  Walter Hanson
  Minneapolis, MN</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tommy:</p>
<p>    What office is Meldanez running for?</p>
<p>President?</p>
<p>Senator?</p>
<p>House?</p>
<p>He isn&#8217;t the face of the DFL party until he runs for office.  To use that logic Paul Wellstone wasn&#8217;t the person who spoke for the DFL and their ideas.  What an insult to the great Paul Wellstone!  Since Wellstone is in heaven and you seem to be going the other direction he won&#8217;t get a chance to try to correct that stupid thinking.</p>
<p>You say that Norm Coleman is trying to use Ron Carey as a shield.  Last time I looked Tommy Norm when he holds a press conference doesn&#8217;t have Ron Carey with him just like Al doesn&#8217;t have this Mel character running around with him.</p>
<p>  No matter how you spin it Tommy Boy Al by your own standards is a crook who doesn&#8217;t deserve a vote for US Senate.  It looks like if you&#8217;re going to be honest with what you&#8217;re preaching you&#8217;re voting for the Independence Party or the Green party&#8217;s candidate for US Senate since Tommy Johnson doesn&#8217;t support crooks.</p>
<p>  Walter Hanson<br />
  Minneapolis, MN</p>
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		<title>By: Troy</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-2/#comment-227489</link>
		<dc:creator>Troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leroy Jenkins said:

&quot;A PAC started by Al Franken screwed up&quot;

Are we starting to see a pattern here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leroy Jenkins said:</p>
<p>&#8220;A PAC started by Al Franken screwed up&#8221;</p>
<p>Are we starting to see a pattern here?</p>
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		<title>By: Swiftee</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-2/#comment-227488</link>
		<dc:creator>Swiftee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Say, &quot;johnson&quot;?

Any truth to the rumor that you can simultaniously type with one hand while emptying a bag of Cheeto&#039;s with the other?

Just how many bags of crap can you go through in one day?? Does you mom go to SuperAmerica for you, or do you have to do your own shopping?

Got your &quot;Rewards Card&quot; all filled out?

Bwaahahahahaaa!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say, &#8220;johnson&#8221;?</p>
<p>Any truth to the rumor that you can simultaniously type with one hand while emptying a bag of Cheeto&#8217;s with the other?</p>
<p>Just how many bags of crap can you go through in one day?? Does you mom go to SuperAmerica for you, or do you have to do your own shopping?</p>
<p>Got your &#8220;Rewards Card&#8221; all filled out?</p>
<p>Bwaahahahahaaa!</p>
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		<title>By: Troy</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-2/#comment-227487</link>
		<dc:creator>Troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An excellent question, surly, but I suspect we will get treated to another expedition into TommyJohnson&#039;s &quot;real issue&quot; (or issues) and more more name calling because we aren&#039;t focused on someone who is NOT running for the U.S. Senate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An excellent question, surly, but I suspect we will get treated to another expedition into TommyJohnson&#8217;s &#8220;real issue&#8221; (or issues) and more more name calling because we aren&#8217;t focused on someone who is NOT running for the U.S. Senate.</p>
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		<title>By: surly</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-2/#comment-227484</link>
		<dc:creator>surly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Norm Coleman is &quot;hiding&quot; behind someone else&#039;s transgressions, which you yourself state were &quot;no big deal&quot;, how, exactly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Norm Coleman is &#8220;hiding&#8221; behind someone else&#8217;s transgressions, which you yourself state were &#8220;no big deal&#8221;, how, exactly?</p>
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		<title>By: Troy</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-2/#comment-227483</link>
		<dc:creator>Troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TommyJohnson said:

&quot;Youâ€™re a hypocrite, Troy. Always have been; always will be.&quot;

Wow. An attack on my person with no factual basis. Par for the course, TommyJohnson. Am I getting under your skin?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TommyJohnson said:</p>
<p>&#8220;Youâ€™re a hypocrite, Troy. Always have been; always will be.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow. An attack on my person with no factual basis. Par for the course, TommyJohnson. Am I getting under your skin?</p>
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		<title>By: TommyJohnson</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-2/#comment-227481</link>
		<dc:creator>TommyJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do the rightwingnuts here not see what the real issue is?

The real issue is Norm &quot;Smokescreen&quot; Coleman hiding behind republiCon Ron, who has the same type of paperwork problems that Franken has.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do the rightwingnuts here not see what the real issue is?</p>
<p>The real issue is Norm &#8220;Smokescreen&#8221; Coleman hiding behind republiCon Ron, who has the same type of paperwork problems that Franken has.</p>
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		<title>By: redmama</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-2/#comment-227477</link>
		<dc:creator>redmama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do the left-leaners here not see what the real issue is? It&#039;s not the fact that he only filed late, or failed to file, ONCE.  It&#039;s not that he did it TWICE. He has a pattern of these issues, most of which were (he thought) swept under the rug and LIED about until Michael peeked under said rug and outed him and his campaign finances.
Ironic, isn&#039;t it, that Angry Al is so damned proud of his book entitled &#039;Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them&#039;? Here it turns out it was a autobiography all along!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do the left-leaners here not see what the real issue is? It&#8217;s not the fact that he only filed late, or failed to file, ONCE.  It&#8217;s not that he did it TWICE. He has a pattern of these issues, most of which were (he thought) swept under the rug and LIED about until Michael peeked under said rug and outed him and his campaign finances.<br />
Ironic, isn&#8217;t it, that Angry Al is so damned proud of his book entitled &#8216;Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them&#8217;? Here it turns out it was a autobiography all along!</p>
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		<title>By: Leroy Jenkins</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-2/#comment-227473</link>
		<dc:creator>Leroy Jenkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A PAC started by Al Franken screwed up paperwork, and paid a fine for it.  This happens ALL THE TIME, with both democrats and republicans. 

If memory serves, the single largest fine in state campaign finance board history is held by Tim Pawlenty.  And he was subsequently re-elected, without any call from the right for him to step aside. 

I guess I have to agree with Tommy on this one.  If you fail to pass judgment on the candidates you agree with, you lose the right to do so with the candidate with whom you disagree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A PAC started by Al Franken screwed up paperwork, and paid a fine for it.  This happens ALL THE TIME, with both democrats and republicans. </p>
<p>If memory serves, the single largest fine in state campaign finance board history is held by Tim Pawlenty.  And he was subsequently re-elected, without any call from the right for him to step aside. </p>
<p>I guess I have to agree with Tommy on this one.  If you fail to pass judgment on the candidates you agree with, you lose the right to do so with the candidate with whom you disagree.</p>
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		<title>By: TommyJohnson</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-2/#comment-227472</link>
		<dc:creator>TommyJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Surly -  simple minded bootlickers like you are easily amused; that&#039;s true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Surly &#8211;  simple minded bootlickers like you are easily amused; that&#8217;s true.</p>
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		<title>By: surly</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-1/#comment-227471</link>
		<dc:creator>surly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tommy,

Your response to (yet another) complaint that you do nothing here but change the subject and yell inanities is to point out that you have authored posts on a completely different blog?!

That&#039;s pretty funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tommy,</p>
<p>Your response to (yet another) complaint that you do nothing here but change the subject and yell inanities is to point out that you have authored posts on a completely different blog?!</p>
<p>That&#8217;s pretty funny.</p>
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		<title>By: TommyJohnson</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-1/#comment-227469</link>
		<dc:creator>TommyJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kyle, admit it:  what fries your ass is the fact that no matter who wins the Senate race, a democrat will be elected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyle, admit it:  what fries your ass is the fact that no matter who wins the Senate race, a democrat will be elected.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Christensen</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-1/#comment-227467</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle Christensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tommy,
Do try not to be such a fat, fascist ass, would you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tommy,<br />
Do try not to be such a fat, fascist ass, would you?</p>
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		<title>By: TommyJohnson</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-1/#comment-227462</link>
		<dc:creator>TommyJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Surly, it was to point out the hypocrisy of the GreedOverPrinciples party.  


That&#039;s why the tiles to posts were:

A &quot;Hypocrite Of The Week&quot; Nominee: republiCon Ron
Submitted by TwoPuttTommy on May 2, 2008 - 

People In Glass Houses
Submitted by TwoPuttTommy on May 8, 2008 - 

What Ron Carey Doesn&#039;t Want To Talk About
Submitted by TwoPuttTommy on May 8, 2008 - 

Ron Carey: Pathetically Incompetent, or Criminally Culpable?
Submitted by TwoPuttTommy on May 13, 2008 - 

Amending The Amended Reports
Submitted by TwoPuttTommy on May 14, 2008 -

&quot;We anticipate filing some amendments&quot;
Submitted by TwoPuttTommy on May 27, 2008 -

republiCon Ron â€“ Hopelessly Delusional, Or Pathological Liar?
Submitted by TwoPuttTommy on July 1, 2008 -






Do try to keep up, won&#039;t you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Surly, it was to point out the hypocrisy of the GreedOverPrinciples party.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s why the tiles to posts were:</p>
<p>A &#8220;Hypocrite Of The Week&#8221; Nominee: republiCon Ron<br />
Submitted by TwoPuttTommy on May 2, 2008 &#8211; </p>
<p>People In Glass Houses<br />
Submitted by TwoPuttTommy on May 8, 2008 &#8211; </p>
<p>What Ron Carey Doesn&#8217;t Want To Talk About<br />
Submitted by TwoPuttTommy on May 8, 2008 &#8211; </p>
<p>Ron Carey: Pathetically Incompetent, or Criminally Culpable?<br />
Submitted by TwoPuttTommy on May 13, 2008 &#8211; </p>
<p>Amending The Amended Reports<br />
Submitted by TwoPuttTommy on May 14, 2008 -</p>
<p>&#8220;We anticipate filing some amendments&#8221;<br />
Submitted by TwoPuttTommy on May 27, 2008 -</p>
<p>republiCon Ron â€“ Hopelessly Delusional, Or Pathological Liar?<br />
Submitted by TwoPuttTommy on July 1, 2008 -</p>
<p>Do try to keep up, won&#8217;t you?</p>
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		<title>By: TommyJohnson</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-1/#comment-227458</link>
		<dc:creator>TommyJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kyle, do try to keep up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyle, do try to keep up.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Christensen</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-1/#comment-227457</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle Christensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But Tommy&#039;s just fine with Al Franken&#039;s tax cheating, law breaking and ethical failures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Tommy&#8217;s just fine with Al Franken&#8217;s tax cheating, law breaking and ethical failures.</p>
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		<title>By: surly</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-1/#comment-227456</link>
		<dc:creator>surly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;MY TAKE on this is: Carey was responsible for some paperwork that got filed late; the FEC fined the MnGOP; NO BIG DEAL.&quot;

So the person who&#039;s stock answer to nearly every post/question/response over the last few months has been to hyperventilate, &quot;Ron Cary! GOP fines!!! Crooks! RepubliCons!!!&quot; has now admitted that it was all a put-on.  Manufactured indignation meant to do nothing but provoke.

The classic definition of a troll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;MY TAKE on this is: Carey was responsible for some paperwork that got filed late; the FEC fined the MnGOP; NO BIG DEAL.&#8221;</p>
<p>So the person who&#8217;s stock answer to nearly every post/question/response over the last few months has been to hyperventilate, &#8220;Ron Cary! GOP fines!!! Crooks! RepubliCons!!!&#8221; has now admitted that it was all a put-on.  Manufactured indignation meant to do nothing but provoke.</p>
<p>The classic definition of a troll.</p>
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		<title>By: TommyJohnson</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-1/#comment-227455</link>
		<dc:creator>TommyJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Troy, you - as usual - miss the point.

I&#039;m not saying &quot;it&#039;s ok for franken &#039;cause carey did it first&quot;; I&#039;m saying you guys are (cheney)in&#039; hypocrites for condemning Franken for what Carey did before.

Wrong is wrong no matter who does it; you bootlickers think it&#039;s only wrong when a democrat does it and you&#039;re perfectly fine with ignoring republiCon transgressions while throwing your stones.

You&#039;re a hypocrite, Troy.  Always have been; always will be.

And come November&#039;s elections, you&#039;ll be a member of the Permanent Minority Status party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Troy, you &#8211; as usual &#8211; miss the point.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying &#8220;it&#8217;s ok for franken &#8217;cause carey did it first&#8221;; I&#8217;m saying you guys are (cheney)in&#8217; hypocrites for condemning Franken for what Carey did before.</p>
<p>Wrong is wrong no matter who does it; you bootlickers think it&#8217;s only wrong when a democrat does it and you&#8217;re perfectly fine with ignoring republiCon transgressions while throwing your stones.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re a hypocrite, Troy.  Always have been; always will be.</p>
<p>And come November&#8217;s elections, you&#8217;ll be a member of the Permanent Minority Status party.</p>
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		<title>By: Troy</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-1/#comment-227453</link>
		<dc:creator>Troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TommyJohnson, the &quot;somebody else did it first&quot; tape loop you like to play really isn&#039;t a argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TommyJohnson, the &#8220;somebody else did it first&#8221; tape loop you like to play really isn&#8217;t a argument.</p>
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		<title>By: TommyJohnson</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-1/#comment-227451</link>
		<dc:creator>TommyJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Walter, the fact you think Al Franken speaks for Betty, demonstrates how out of touch with reality you really are.

Franken isn&#039;t the face of the DFL; Melendez is.

Coleman isn&#039;t the face of the GOP; Carey is.

Get a grip, Walter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walter, the fact you think Al Franken speaks for Betty, demonstrates how out of touch with reality you really are.</p>
<p>Franken isn&#8217;t the face of the DFL; Melendez is.</p>
<p>Coleman isn&#8217;t the face of the GOP; Carey is.</p>
<p>Get a grip, Walter.</p>
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		<title>By: Walter</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-1/#comment-227450</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Tommy:

    Just curious why do you have to be invited to visit your blog?  Mike opens the blogs with no special signs.  Looks like Mike is a far better blogger than you are.

   To be honest Tommy if you haven&#039;t heard there are a lot of Republicans who aren&#039;t happy with how the Republican Party has been run.  That could be an issue when the party decides if Carey retains his job.  Last time I looked both Tim Pawlenty and John Mccain thought they were the offical voice of Republican ideas in Minnesota not Ron Carey.

    But that aside because the DFL has endorsed Al Franken he is the spokes person for their beliefs.  He speaks for Betty M, Walz, Madia, and your state house candidates.  Wow all those people endorse women being raped!  And they support crooks to since Franken is a crook since he did the same crime as Carey.  Not to mention multiple time.

    So Tommy why do you support a crook for US Senate?

   Walter Hanson
   Minneapolis, MN</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Tommy:</p>
<p>    Just curious why do you have to be invited to visit your blog?  Mike opens the blogs with no special signs.  Looks like Mike is a far better blogger than you are.</p>
<p>   To be honest Tommy if you haven&#8217;t heard there are a lot of Republicans who aren&#8217;t happy with how the Republican Party has been run.  That could be an issue when the party decides if Carey retains his job.  Last time I looked both Tim Pawlenty and John Mccain thought they were the offical voice of Republican ideas in Minnesota not Ron Carey.</p>
<p>    But that aside because the DFL has endorsed Al Franken he is the spokes person for their beliefs.  He speaks for Betty M, Walz, Madia, and your state house candidates.  Wow all those people endorse women being raped!  And they support crooks to since Franken is a crook since he did the same crime as Carey.  Not to mention multiple time.</p>
<p>    So Tommy why do you support a crook for US Senate?</p>
<p>   Walter Hanson<br />
   Minneapolis, MN</p>
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		<title>By: TommyJohnson</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-1/#comment-227447</link>
		<dc:creator>TommyJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;Every time Franken tells us heâ€™s coming clean, a new revelation comes out.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

GASP!!!  You mean, just like republiCon Ron??!?

Let&#039;s look at republiCon Ron&#039;s problem, as aired by GOP Employees:

June 3, 2007: Internal complaints roil state GOP office
Staff members who asked the leadership to address questions of how money was used say they were ignored or faced retaliation.

By Dan Browning and Pat Doyle, Star Tribune 

Last update: July 16, 2007 - 5:32 PM

 

At least two staff members have left the Minnesota Republican Party since February after they complained that the party misused employee retirement money, improperly reported its finances and ignored or retaliated against staff who reported the problems.

Carey on Friday denied any retaliation and said any problems identified in the memo have been fixed. 



more, here:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.startribune.com/politics/11759986.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Star Tribune&lt;/a&gt;

Say, Kyle?  They haven&#039;t been fixed.  That makes republiCon Ron a liar, doesn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;Every time Franken tells us heâ€™s coming clean, a new revelation comes out.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>GASP!!!  You mean, just like republiCon Ron??!?</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s look at republiCon Ron&#8217;s problem, as aired by GOP Employees:</p>
<p>June 3, 2007: Internal complaints roil state GOP office<br />
Staff members who asked the leadership to address questions of how money was used say they were ignored or faced retaliation.</p>
<p>By Dan Browning and Pat Doyle, Star Tribune </p>
<p>Last update: July 16, 2007 &#8211; 5:32 PM</p>
<p>At least two staff members have left the Minnesota Republican Party since February after they complained that the party misused employee retirement money, improperly reported its finances and ignored or retaliated against staff who reported the problems.</p>
<p>Carey on Friday denied any retaliation and said any problems identified in the memo have been fixed. </p>
<p>more, here:  <a href="http://www.startribune.com/politics/11759986.html" rel="nofollow">Star Tribune</a></p>
<p>Say, Kyle?  They haven&#8217;t been fixed.  That makes republiCon Ron a liar, doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Christensen</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-1/#comment-227446</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle Christensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, speaking of hypocrisy, Tommy comes here to libel, insult and act like the fascist he is about Michael&#039;s posts about Al Franken&#039;s law breaking, tax cheating and ethical failures 

Funny, for a guy who&#039;s &quot;so concerned&quot; about hypocrisy, Tommy&#039;s MNBlue blog doesn&#039;t contain a word about Al Franken&#039;s law breaking, tax cheating and ethical failures... One would think if he cared about hypocrisy Tommy would cover both sides... 

Could it be that The Fascist Tommy Johnson couldn&#039;t give a shit less about hypocrisy? Could it be that Tommy&#039;s as big a hypocrite as there is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, speaking of hypocrisy, Tommy comes here to libel, insult and act like the fascist he is about Michael&#8217;s posts about Al Franken&#8217;s law breaking, tax cheating and ethical failures </p>
<p>Funny, for a guy who&#8217;s &#8220;so concerned&#8221; about hypocrisy, Tommy&#8217;s MNBlue blog doesn&#8217;t contain a word about Al Franken&#8217;s law breaking, tax cheating and ethical failures&#8230; One would think if he cared about hypocrisy Tommy would cover both sides&#8230; </p>
<p>Could it be that The Fascist Tommy Johnson couldn&#8217;t give a shit less about hypocrisy? Could it be that Tommy&#8217;s as big a hypocrite as there is.</p>
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		<title>By: Dumbing it Down For the Left</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-1/#comment-227444</link>
		<dc:creator>Dumbing it Down For the Left</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a much bigger deal, Tommy, than just the comparison you are trying to make to deflect from the real issue. 

Franken having violated campaign finance laws is certainly something that should be taken into consideration, but in and of itself is obviously not a deal breaker for the voters.

The actual issues are these:

1) The vastness of his propensity to violate the law.  17 (I mean at least 18) states where he didn&#039;t pay taxes.  This campaign finance violation.  The Worker&#039;s Comp.  Etc.

And bigger yet

2) Franken has lied to the people&#039;s face time after time after time after time after time for several months now.  

Every time Franken tells us he&#039;s coming clean, a new revelation comes out.

He knew while state after state where he has avoided taxes was laid out for the public that he had this fine for violating campaign finance laws.  He tried to hide it, going so far as to fail to properly disclose it.

And setting aside all of the intricacies of FEC Regs (which are arguably onerous and damaging to public discourse) he should have disclosed this to the public as a matter of common decency.

He expects the voters to trust him in office to be an advocate or opponent of public policy that can have a profound effect on the livelihoods of people.  That trust is not something to be taken lightly.

So when he lies time after time after time, it becomes a big deal.

So don&#039;t trivialize this with your small minded deflections Tommy.  

The actual scandal has nothing to do with the FEC violation, and you know it.

I just wonder if the press will let Franken get away with playing them the way he has.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a much bigger deal, Tommy, than just the comparison you are trying to make to deflect from the real issue. </p>
<p>Franken having violated campaign finance laws is certainly something that should be taken into consideration, but in and of itself is obviously not a deal breaker for the voters.</p>
<p>The actual issues are these:</p>
<p>1) The vastness of his propensity to violate the law.  17 (I mean at least 18) states where he didn&#8217;t pay taxes.  This campaign finance violation.  The Worker&#8217;s Comp.  Etc.</p>
<p>And bigger yet</p>
<p>2) Franken has lied to the people&#8217;s face time after time after time after time after time for several months now.  </p>
<p>Every time Franken tells us he&#8217;s coming clean, a new revelation comes out.</p>
<p>He knew while state after state where he has avoided taxes was laid out for the public that he had this fine for violating campaign finance laws.  He tried to hide it, going so far as to fail to properly disclose it.</p>
<p>And setting aside all of the intricacies of FEC Regs (which are arguably onerous and damaging to public discourse) he should have disclosed this to the public as a matter of common decency.</p>
<p>He expects the voters to trust him in office to be an advocate or opponent of public policy that can have a profound effect on the livelihoods of people.  That trust is not something to be taken lightly.</p>
<p>So when he lies time after time after time, it becomes a big deal.</p>
<p>So don&#8217;t trivialize this with your small minded deflections Tommy.  </p>
<p>The actual scandal has nothing to do with the FEC violation, and you know it.</p>
<p>I just wonder if the press will let Franken get away with playing them the way he has.</p>
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		<title>By: Rug Burns Franken</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-1/#comment-227442</link>
		<dc:creator>Rug Burns Franken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike Cerisi is no match for me, I have money, rich friends from NY ans California and they will support me! Besides that I&#039;m me and your not good enough to beat me. That&#039;s what&#039;s most important me, me, me...
Don&#039;t forget I grew up here and went to private school here too. When I left to follow my dream I had to find me and I did in NY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Cerisi is no match for me, I have money, rich friends from NY ans California and they will support me! Besides that I&#8217;m me and your not good enough to beat me. That&#8217;s what&#8217;s most important me, me, me&#8230;<br />
Don&#8217;t forget I grew up here and went to private school here too. When I left to follow my dream I had to find me and I did in NY.</p>
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		<title>By: TommyJohnson</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-1/#comment-227441</link>
		<dc:creator>TommyJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Walter, last time I looked Ron Carey was helping GOP candidates get elected.

And since republiCon Ron is the highest GOP Party Official, he&#039;s the official face of the GOP Party.

And since the official face of the GOP is a hypocrite, the GOP is the party of hypocrites.

And crooks, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walter, last time I looked Ron Carey was helping GOP candidates get elected.</p>
<p>And since republiCon Ron is the highest GOP Party Official, he&#8217;s the official face of the GOP Party.</p>
<p>And since the official face of the GOP is a hypocrite, the GOP is the party of hypocrites.</p>
<p>And crooks, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Fresch Fisch</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-1/#comment-227436</link>
		<dc:creator>Fresch Fisch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, chill out with the Franken stories till after next week! We want Franken to be the only Democratic candidate! More stories of his truckloads of baggage might entice someone else to run that has much, much less baggage!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, chill out with the Franken stories till after next week! We want Franken to be the only Democratic candidate! More stories of his truckloads of baggage might entice someone else to run that has much, much less baggage!</p>
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		<title>By: walter hanson</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-1/#comment-227431</link>
		<dc:creator>walter hanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tommy:

  to use your logic than any Democrat who wants to say that Al Franken deserves to be a US Senator endorses bad jokes of woman being raped (that might help explain your sick mind), endorses insulting people (oh wait a minute you already do that), and still endorse the concepts that rules don&#039;t matter if it&#039;s a democrat.

  Last time I looked Franken was a candidate in an important Senate race while Ron Carey wasn&#039;t running for office.  Given the situation the person who deserves more attention is Al Franken.  Especially given his lack of character 
is demonstrated by this and his language issues.

  If you want to talk about unaccountable why is it that Democrats want to be measured for their intentions not their results.  The great society programs destroyed the black colture, but the Republicans gets called racists by the Democrats.  The welfare reform program of 1996 was called racist helped repair some of that damage.  Do I need to go on?

  Why should you expect a corporation to obey rules when the Democrats who pass the laws don&#039;t care about obeying them?

  Walter Hanson
  Minneapolis, MN</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tommy:</p>
<p>  to use your logic than any Democrat who wants to say that Al Franken deserves to be a US Senator endorses bad jokes of woman being raped (that might help explain your sick mind), endorses insulting people (oh wait a minute you already do that), and still endorse the concepts that rules don&#8217;t matter if it&#8217;s a democrat.</p>
<p>  Last time I looked Franken was a candidate in an important Senate race while Ron Carey wasn&#8217;t running for office.  Given the situation the person who deserves more attention is Al Franken.  Especially given his lack of character<br />
is demonstrated by this and his language issues.</p>
<p>  If you want to talk about unaccountable why is it that Democrats want to be measured for their intentions not their results.  The great society programs destroyed the black colture, but the Republicans gets called racists by the Democrats.  The welfare reform program of 1996 was called racist helped repair some of that damage.  Do I need to go on?</p>
<p>  Why should you expect a corporation to obey rules when the Democrats who pass the laws don&#8217;t care about obeying them?</p>
<p>  Walter Hanson<br />
  Minneapolis, MN</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Christensen</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-1/#comment-227429</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle Christensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya see Tomm, hypocrisy is when you say one thing and then do another, not when you say one thing and somebody you once worked for does another. 

At least now I know why you disagreed with my comment last week that you don&#039;t really care about hypocrisy. It&#039;s because you don&#039;t know what hypocrisy is.

For example, you&#039;re a major hypocrite when you say &quot;I want to talk about the issues&quot;... and then change the subject to Ron Carey, call everyone insulting names, and libel everyone you disagree with. 

Your not only a hypocrite, Tommy. You&#039;re a bald-faced liar, a cheat and a fool...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya see Tomm, hypocrisy is when you say one thing and then do another, not when you say one thing and somebody you once worked for does another. </p>
<p>At least now I know why you disagreed with my comment last week that you don&#8217;t really care about hypocrisy. It&#8217;s because you don&#8217;t know what hypocrisy is.</p>
<p>For example, you&#8217;re a major hypocrite when you say &#8220;I want to talk about the issues&#8221;&#8230; and then change the subject to Ron Carey, call everyone insulting names, and libel everyone you disagree with. </p>
<p>Your not only a hypocrite, Tommy. You&#8217;re a bald-faced liar, a cheat and a fool&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: TommyJohnson</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-1/#comment-227422</link>
		<dc:creator>TommyJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kyle, you&#039;re such a simple bootlicker.

Fortunately, for America, you&#039;re a member of the soon-to-be Permanent Minority Status party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyle, you&#8217;re such a simple bootlicker.</p>
<p>Fortunately, for America, you&#8217;re a member of the soon-to-be Permanent Minority Status party.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Christensen</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-1/#comment-227418</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle Christensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...the fact you donâ€™t see the hypocrisy of Michael Brodkorb, who was Ron Careyâ€™s campaign manager...&quot;

Oh, so it&#039;s not the GOP or Ron Carey now. It&#039;s Michael who is a former employee of Ron and the GOP... so, you&#039;ve extended your line of association. 

So, basically all bets are off. Anyone one within 7 degrees of Kevin Bacon can no longer win an Academy Award. 

That will shorten the ceremony significantly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;the fact you donâ€™t see the hypocrisy of Michael Brodkorb, who was Ron Careyâ€™s campaign manager&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, so it&#8217;s not the GOP or Ron Carey now. It&#8217;s Michael who is a former employee of Ron and the GOP&#8230; so, you&#8217;ve extended your line of association. </p>
<p>So, basically all bets are off. Anyone one within 7 degrees of Kevin Bacon can no longer win an Academy Award. </p>
<p>That will shorten the ceremony significantly.</p>
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		<title>By: TommyJohnson</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-1/#comment-227412</link>
		<dc:creator>TommyJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TommyJohnson said:

â€œIf you want to keep attacking Al Franken for what he did than you have to attack everyone who does campaign finance reporting violations.â€

True. The reason Ron Cary deserves more press coverage is Ron Carey&#039;s transgressions is representive of how the Republican Party of Minnesota &lt;strong&gt;actually performs it&#039;s duties&lt;/strong&gt; and because Ron Carey the public face of all that the GOP is supposed to represent.

And what Ron Carey represents is &quot;while us republiCons talk a good game, we don&#039;t want to be held accountable when the score is tallied.&quot;

Which, of course, is but one more reason why GOP now stands for GreedOverPrinciples.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TommyJohnson said:</p>
<p>â€œIf you want to keep attacking Al Franken for what he did than you have to attack everyone who does campaign finance reporting violations.â€</p>
<p>True. The reason Ron Cary deserves more press coverage is Ron Carey&#8217;s transgressions is representive of how the Republican Party of Minnesota <strong>actually performs it&#8217;s duties</strong> and because Ron Carey the public face of all that the GOP is supposed to represent.</p>
<p>And what Ron Carey represents is &#8220;while us republiCons talk a good game, we don&#8217;t want to be held accountable when the score is tallied.&#8221;</p>
<p>Which, of course, is but one more reason why GOP now stands for GreedOverPrinciples.</p>
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		<title>By: walter hanson</title>
		<link>http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/07/08/mde-exclusive-frankens-midwest-values-pac-fined-7200-by-fec-fine-kept-quiet-by-team-franken/comment-page-1/#comment-227410</link>
		<dc:creator>walter hanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tommy:

   There are three major differences.

   One, in order to defend Al Franken you keep mentioning Ron Carey.  Last time I looked Norm Coleman was running against Al Franken.  Saying Franken is alright because this person did something worse is no defense.  However if you want to compare the evidence here 19 state or reporting agencies violations for Franken versus one for Carey.  About $85,000 in taxes or penalaties versus $16,000 for Carey.  Seems like Al is the naughtier boy.

   Two, if Carey was running for a public office which he isn&#039;t I will say it was fair game to raise the issue.  However if he was it will hurt him.  It could also hurt him the next time the Republicans elect their state party leadership.

   Three, I think I have said some bad things about Republicans.  Mind you I have done it in the form of letters to that particular Republican.  So excuse me your twisting the shoe doesn&#039;t fit.

   You&#039;re still a person who thinks that Republicans are evil and Democrats do nothing wrong.

Walter Hanson
Minneapolis, MN</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tommy:</p>
<p>   There are three major differences.</p>
<p>   One, in order to defend Al Franken you keep mentioning Ron Carey.  Last time I looked Norm Coleman was running against Al Franken.  Saying Franken is alright because this person did something worse is no defense.  However if you want to compare the evidence here 19 state or reporting agencies violations for Franken versus one for Carey.  About $85,000 in taxes or penalaties versus $16,000 for Carey.  Seems like Al is the naughtier boy.</p>
<p>   Two, if Carey was running for a public office which he isn&#8217;t I will say it was fair game to raise the issue.  However if he was it will hurt him.  It could also hurt him the next time the Republicans elect their state party leadership.</p>
<p>   Three, I think I have said some bad things about Republicans.  Mind you I have done it in the form of letters to that particular Republican.  So excuse me your twisting the shoe doesn&#8217;t fit.</p>
<p>   You&#8217;re still a person who thinks that Republicans are evil and Democrats do nothing wrong.</p>
<p>Walter Hanson<br />
Minneapolis, MN</p>
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		<title>By: Swiftee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swiftee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Al Franken&#039;s &lt;i&gt;parents&lt;/i&gt; thought they could do better than Al Franken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al Franken&#8217;s <i>parents</i> thought they could do better than Al Franken.</p>
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		<title>By: Troy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TommyJohnson said:

&quot;If you want to keep attacking Al Franken for what he did than you have to attack everyone who does campaign finance reporting violations.&quot;

Untrue. The reason Al Franken gets more press for his transgressions is because he is trying to represent Minnesota in the U.S. Senate. 

Many Minnesotans think we can do better than Franken. Heck, many DFLers think we can do better than Franken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TommyJohnson said:</p>
<p>&#8220;If you want to keep attacking Al Franken for what he did than you have to attack everyone who does campaign finance reporting violations.&#8221;</p>
<p>Untrue. The reason Al Franken gets more press for his transgressions is because he is trying to represent Minnesota in the U.S. Senate. </p>
<p>Many Minnesotans think we can do better than Franken. Heck, many DFLers think we can do better than Franken.</p>
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		<title>By: TommyJohnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>TommyJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kyle, the fact you don&#039;t see the hypocrisy of Michael Brodkorb, who was Ron Carey&#039;s campaign manager, criticizing Al Franken for a FEC Fine, when Ron Carey got fined by the FEC for more than DOUBLE (and, not adjusted for inflation!) that, only goes to show you&#039;re a good little bootlicker.

My take on this is:  Carey was responsible for some paperwork that got filed late; the FEC fined the MnGOP; no big deal.  Franken&#039;s PAC filed some paperwork late; the FEC fined &#039;em; no big deal.

But, here&#039;s what you bootlickers are falling for:

&quot;Carey was responsible for some paperwork that got filed late; the FEC fined the MnGOP; &lt;strong&gt;no big deal&lt;/strong&gt;.  However, Franken&#039;s PAC filed some paperwork late; the FEC fined &#039;em; and it&#039;s a &lt;strong&gt; Big (cheney)in&#039; Deal&lt;/strong&gt;.&quot;

And that&#039;s why you&#039;re a bootlicker; you swallowed that line of bullshit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyle, the fact you don&#8217;t see the hypocrisy of Michael Brodkorb, who was Ron Carey&#8217;s campaign manager, criticizing Al Franken for a FEC Fine, when Ron Carey got fined by the FEC for more than DOUBLE (and, not adjusted for inflation!) that, only goes to show you&#8217;re a good little bootlicker.</p>
<p>My take on this is:  Carey was responsible for some paperwork that got filed late; the FEC fined the MnGOP; no big deal.  Franken&#8217;s PAC filed some paperwork late; the FEC fined &#8216;em; no big deal.</p>
<p>But, here&#8217;s what you bootlickers are falling for:</p>
<p>&#8220;Carey was responsible for some paperwork that got filed late; the FEC fined the MnGOP; <strong>no big deal</strong>.  However, Franken&#8217;s PAC filed some paperwork late; the FEC fined &#8216;em; and it&#8217;s a <strong> Big (cheney)in&#8217; Deal</strong>.&#8221;</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s why you&#8217;re a bootlicker; you swallowed that line of bullshit.</p>
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		<title>By: PlymouthDem</title>
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		<dc:creator>PlymouthDem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can it be a &quot;new&quot; legal problem when it was announced publicly almost 5 months ago, paid almost 8 months ago, and occurred almost 2 years ago?  And, why would Franken&#039;s camp need to say anything about it if there is a PUBLIC press release announcing it.  

What, was it not public knowledge until MDE confirmed with the FEC last night?  

This is about the worst claim of a cover-up ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can it be a &#8220;new&#8221; legal problem when it was announced publicly almost 5 months ago, paid almost 8 months ago, and occurred almost 2 years ago?  And, why would Franken&#8217;s camp need to say anything about it if there is a PUBLIC press release announcing it.  </p>
<p>What, was it not public knowledge until MDE confirmed with the FEC last night?  </p>
<p>This is about the worst claim of a cover-up ever.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Christensen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle Christensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure I could call you a dozen other things Tommy. I&#039;ll spare the effort for now. 

One thing no one will ever call you, however, is &quot;consistent.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure I could call you a dozen other things Tommy. I&#8217;ll spare the effort for now. </p>
<p>One thing no one will ever call you, however, is &#8220;consistent.&#8221;</p>
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