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NEW POLL SHOWS COLEMAN WITH 15-POINT LEAD OVER FRANKEN; MCCAIN & OBAMA IN DEAD-HEAT
By Michael B. Brodkorb | July 24, 2008
According to a new poll released today by Quinnipiac University and the Washington Post, Senator Coleman is leading Al Franken, 53% - 38%. The poll was conducted July 14 - 22. Coleman has a 23-point lead with men and a 23-point lead with independents. Coleman has a seven-point lead with women.
The same poll showed Senator McCain trailing Senator Obama by only two-points in Minnesota. Please check back to Minnesota Democrats Exposed for more information on this developing story.
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July 24th, 2008 at 10:09 am
And a new Rasmussen poll of Minnesota shows Obama leading by 12, and Norm and Al within the margin of error.
Who are you gonna believe?
July 24th, 2008 at 10:20 am
Maybe Franken is falling behind because he supports stripping workers of their right not to be forced into union membership.
July 24th, 2008 at 10:24 am
Maybe Coleman is in a dead heat because his allegiance to George Bush was not enough, and now he is in bed with Wal Mart too.
What next? An endorsement from Alfoso Rodriguez?
July 24th, 2008 at 10:33 am
I wonder how McCain picked up 15 points in three weeks. Overall the poll seems pretty fishy to me.
July 24th, 2008 at 10:39 am
So Al Franken is in bed with organized crime and the Teamsters union in an effort to violate workers rights. I’m sure that will get him far, and help women forget that he’s a sleaze artist.
July 24th, 2008 at 10:42 am
Yep. If there is one thing the unions known for, it is violating workers rights.
Seriously. Do you ever read the stuff you post before you hit the Submit Comment button?
July 24th, 2008 at 10:54 am
“If there is one thing the unions known for, it is violating workers rights.”
Leroy finally told the truth. Good job.
Stripping of their right to a secret ballot is just the latest example of union’s violation of workers rights. Extorting dues from their paychecks and then using them to buy Democrats and drive policies employees don’t agree with, and which have nothing to do with employment is another.
Locking them in trunks until they sign a union card is another.
July 24th, 2008 at 11:09 am
It doesn’t matter how many times you say it. The secret ballot isn’t going anywhere. Never has this been any part of the debate other than the part that Norm and his 527 buddies made up. Norm is proving once again to be a total liar.
I defy you to prove me wrong on any point I have just made.
July 24th, 2008 at 11:45 am
What are the liberals so afraid of? Why don’t they want to ensure that workers are allowed to vote in private - no questions asked? If the left really does support the workers they should be trying to stop this from happening. But we know it is all about control and power with the left. They consider everyone (but themselves) to stupid to take care of themselves and figure they have to “save” them from themselves.
July 24th, 2008 at 11:48 am
Leroy,
It doesn’t matter how many times you say it, the EFCA eliminates employees right to a secret ballot. It’s dead, thanks to Democrats and their friends in organized crime and the Teamsters union.
“I defy you to prove me wrong on any point I have just made.”
Every point you made is wrong. And it is proven wrong as soon as you answer this question: What happens when 30 percent say they want a secret ballot, but 50 percent plus 1 sign sign their cards (without privacy)?
Answer: THE EMPLOYEES WHO WANT THE SECRET BALLOT ARE DENIED.
July 24th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
That is not even true. If your union-fearing workers want to quash the thing, they should get 30 percent together for the secret ballot. The card check is simply an ALTERNATE WAY of achieving the same goal. They will not do both at once.
Union busting employees can still get their secret ballots, and then coerce, threaten and intimidate their co-workers in private at the behest of their employers to reject the union on their secret ballots. The republican right to coercion, threats and intimidation will not be rejected with this act. It will simply make it so that workers can get out from under that shroud of secrecy and fight for unionization in public IF THEY SO CHOOSE.
By adopting the act, workers can vote in private, or they can vote in public. Norm and Wal Mart want to take away the right to public union action, as that removes the employer’s ability to intimidate and threaten alleged union organizers.
What is it about transparency that the republicans fear?
July 24th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Leroy,
You’re dead wrong. Probably because you are brain dead.
If 50 percent plus 1 sign their union cards, there will be no secret ballot, even if 49 percent want one.
The EFCA legislation absolutely obliterates the right to a secret ballot.
That’s the facts.
July 24th, 2008 at 12:05 pm
What is it about voting rights do unions, democrats and their organized crime buddies fear?
July 24th, 2008 at 12:05 pm
Poll shows a 29% approval rating for Bush — sounds about right to me.
Rasmussen is an automated phone poll — not at all reliable.
Even the most partisan Dem recognizes that Franken is down by at least ten points.
July 24th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
It is now abundantly clear that Leroy has not read the legislation, and lacks the intellectual capacity to understand its impact.
Here’s some advice Leroy, go put your car in the garage and shut the garage door. Then get into the car, roll down the windows, start the engine and take a nap.
Your family will be thankful you did.
July 24th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
quinnipiac polls are almost always slanted to the libs by 1-2 points, much like the star tribune. although i do not think coleman is ahead by 15 points, the aggregate of polls would indicate he is ahead by 10+.
one thing to be said about mn voters: they lean liberal, but they also are independent as reflect by ventura’s victory. thus, my take is (and i acknowledge i am a coleman supporter) moderately lib voters are more likely to vote for coleman as character trumps issues.
July 24th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
Fresh off of their endorsement process which disenfranchised millions of voters in Michigan and Florida, the Democrat party has set its sights on American workers. Their goal? To eliminate voting rights in labor organization efforts. Why? Because labor unions and organized crime have bought the Democrat party.
July 24th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
So, chestnut,
Your argument is that if 49 percent of people want one thing, and 51 percent want the other thing, the minority should rule?
I try. I really do. But sometimes I get very confused by your efforts to rationalize Norm Coleman’s anti-American ideas.
July 24th, 2008 at 12:43 pm
As a moderately liberal voter, I think Ansel is right on the money, and explains well why people like me will “defect” from the DFL in the Senate race, because of character; and on the same ballot will vote for Obama because of issues:
“moderately lib voters are more likely to vote for coleman as character trumps issues.”
Chestnut, seriously, you might even be right on this issue (I don’t know enough about it to weigh in all that intelligently), but your tone and temperment are trumping the intelligence of your argument.
July 24th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
Hey! Leroy finally admits that 30% of the workers wanting a private vote will not happen under this legislation. Finally! Now if he would just admit he knows nothing about this we could all go do something else.
July 24th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
SMM, how is Chestnut to deal with the abuses of people like Leroy? Sometimes you just need to be a little sharp with children to get their attention. That is all Chestnut is doing.
July 24th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
Pete-
I never said this legislation would change the secret ballot. I simply said that it would augment workers rights by allowing them to openly move toward unionization as well as voting by secret ballot if they so desire.
Try as you might, the people of Minnesota understand that this amendment will simply make the working environment better for workers and no amount of Wal Mart money funneled through Norm Coleman will change that fact.
July 24th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
“Your argument is that if 49 percent of people want one thing, and 51 percent want the other thing, the minority should rule?”
So you admit that the secret ballot is eliminated so long as a slim majority has been coerced into signing cards under the intimidation of union organizers.
Earlier you were lying when you said that 30 percent of workers could demand a secret ballot.
Thanks for finally seeing the light.
July 24th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
“I simply said that it would augment workers rights by allowing them to openly move toward unionization as well as voting by secret ballot if they so desire.”
BULLSHIT. It augments the power of unions to coerce and intimidate workers into signing their cards, and it eliminates their right to a secret ballot.
If 50 percent minus 1 want a secret ballot, they CANNOT have one. This legislation violates their rights.
No wonder Democrats support it.
July 24th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
On the card check, workers can certainly openly campaign to sway their co-workers opinions. But bottom line, what do they have as leverage? Not much. Neither would any outside union organizer.
On the private ballot, employers can threaten and intimidate workers, retaliate and fire organizers just for talking with their co-workers about a union.
I guess what you are saying is, you would rather the employer have the power to intimidate than the worker have the right to organize.
July 24th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
Chestnut,
I agree with you most of time and have gone back and forth with Leroy myself.
But post #16, the one that has been rightly deleted by Michael, was out of line.
July 24th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
I would say Obama will lose more points when the voting public hears while in Berlin, he cancelled his viist to the military bases to visit the wounded and instead went shopping in Berlin. I am sure he will need those German votes come election time.
July 24th, 2008 at 7:39 pm
Someone must have been posting as me, Hype… because I don’t see any of my comments deleted.
July 24th, 2008 at 8:19 pm
Satan and Sara Jane Olson want Franken to represent them in the US House of Representatives.
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July 25th, 2008 at 7:14 am
Chesntnut,
If 50 percent plus 1 sign a union card then there is no need to have a secret ballot because the union would then be formed. What the EFCA does is remove the employer’s ability to force a secret ballot even when the 50 percent plus 1 sign their cards.
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