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MUST READ FROM MINNPOST: “SENATE DEBATE AT FARMFEST, IT TURNS OUT, IS CLEARLY HELD IN ‘COLEMAN COUNTRY’”
By Michael B. Brodkorb | August 5, 2008
“In response to a question from an ag journalist about energy independence, Franken said, ‘Norm Coleman is in the pocket of Big Oil. He’s received more contributions from Big Oil than any politician in the history of Minnesota.’
There was a hush in the massive tent at the annual Farmfest, which is being held near Morgan, about 100 miles west of the Twin Cities. One minute, people had been strolling through the carnival-like atmosphere of this annual event, eating fair food, greeting neighbors, telling jokes.
The next moment, they were hearing the challenger’s verbal blast.
Crowd cool to Franken blasts
It apparently was not what they came to hear. Franken’s opening was greeted with tepid applause.
When it was the Coleman’s turn to speak to the opening question, he went into his rapid-fire style, words pouring smoothly from his lips: ‘You’ve got to tap into more domestic production. Nuclear. Renewable. You gotta do the whole ball of wax.’
Big applause.” Source: MinnPost, August 5, 2008
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“But, of course, most of the attention was focused on Coleman and Franken. Coleman was clearly the favorite of the crowd, which did not appear to care for Franken’s contempt of the senator. Even so, Franken kept blasting.
‘Do you like the leadership we’ve had for the last 7½ years?’ Franken asked at one point.
There was almost no response.
‘This guy,’ Franken said, pointing at Coleman, ‘hasn’t been working for you. He’s been working for President Bush and special interests.’
Some uncomfortable throat-clearing from the crowd.
‘The Bush-Coleman economy has driven people into the ditch, and Coleman was riding shotgun,’ said Franken.
A couple of very low boos.” Source: MinnPost, August 5, 2008
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August 5th, 2008 at 6:38 PM
‘This guy,’ Franken said, pointing at Coleman, ‘hasn’t been working for you. He’s been working for President Bush and special interests.’
What a sad, pathetic excuse for a candidate.
This one statement shows a guy who knows he’s got nothing to offer except attacks. He’s done nothing, he’s lived outside the state his entire adult life, and he thinks he’s still doing radio schtick.
I’m smelling a 20 point victory for Norm.
August 5th, 2008 at 7:33 PM
not to say “i told you so”, but as i have previously commented several times, when norm and franken face off in a debate, franken’s demeanor and inability to respond positively will make norm look good.
apparently that happened today and will happen again. doug grow, the columnist is no conservative so i think the story written by him is probably on target, and probably franken did a little worse than reported.
August 5th, 2008 at 7:45 PM
doug grow, the columnist is no conservative so i think the story written by him is probably on target,
They’re going to come out tonight with the new talking point: Doug Grow is a Lord Faris supporter, maybe even on her staff.
August 5th, 2008 at 7:49 PM
the other thing that is becoming abundantly clear is the thing franken can do is criticize; he has no record to be judged on.
August 5th, 2008 at 8:02 PM
The media is not giving Lord Faris her due. She has a resume and a track record. She is on TV and is hitting Franken with a pretty accurate analysis. Franken did look defeated today and Norm was upbeat. I think Franken thinks this is all over and probably wishes he would never have got into it in the first place.
August 5th, 2008 at 8:08 PM
‘Norm Coleman is in the pocket of Big Oil. He’s received more contributions from Big Oil than any politician in the history of Minnesota.’
He’s been working for President Bush and special interests.’
‘The Bush-Coleman economy has driven people into the ditch, and Coleman was riding shotgun,’ said Franken.
This is EXACTLY the crap that’s wrong with Democrats. They think THIS — meaningless, bullshit sound bites that solicit a pulse from their deranged, brain dead base — is debate.
Minnesotans recognize this tripe for what it is. And they recognize the imported hate-mongering asshole the DFL has propped up for what and who he is.
August 5th, 2008 at 8:11 PM
What’s so damned awful about Franken is the stupidity of his lies and the finger-waving anger. This guy hasn’t lived in Minnesota for 36 years. What the hell is he so mad about. He’s go no idea.
Worse, he has no plan. The excremental platitudes on his Web site may be pablum for Tommy, Leroy, PD and others… but they don’t offer much substance or nutrition for the other 90 percent of Minnesota.
August 5th, 2008 at 8:29 PM
They think THIS — meaningless, bullshit sound bites that solicit a pulse from their deranged, brain dead base — is debate.
You are exactly right. This clown starts out with the attacks about “Big Oil” (as if Small Oil could explore, extract, deliver, refine and pump gas like a bunch of Micro Breweries) after all his paid bloggers spend weeks whining about how Norm supposedly isn’t talking “issues”.
August 5th, 2008 at 8:48 PM
Politics would be far better if the candidates spent their time explaining why their policies are best, rather than explaining why the other candidate’s policies are bad.
August 5th, 2008 at 8:53 PM
Looks like the paid bloggers haven’t gotten their talking points fax yet.
August 5th, 2008 at 9:03 PM
Looks like the paid bloggers haven’t gotten their talking points fax yet.
Who is that comment directed at?
August 5th, 2008 at 9:08 PM
“Politics would be far better if the candidates spent their time explaining why their policies are best, rather than explaining why the other candidate’s policies are bad.”
Agreed. The worst thing about this crap from Franken is that it’s neither. He doesn’t even bother explaining why anyone’s policy is bad. He just rattles off some meaningless bullshit talking point and looks up expecting to see everyone nodding along.
You’ll get that Pavlovian response from the DFL convention, Al… but not from people who have the ability to use hear, comprehend and think.
August 5th, 2008 at 9:24 PM
By Norm calling for renewable energy shows that he is very middle of the road. It seems like every Democrat running for office this year is running against President Bush. That would be like Norm going off on Al, saying he is just a useless tool of San Fran Nan and her San Francisco values.
August 5th, 2008 at 9:28 PM
I agree. Whether it’s Franken or Coleman or Obama or McCain– I’m tired of soundbites and general statements.
When Franken says Coleman doesn’t represent Minnesotans, he should elaborate somewhat. When Coleman says he gets things done, some examples would be good.
I love politics, but it’s becoming increasingly cosmetic and superficial. Franken is very much that. Coleman has done a good job better in this area. I don’t agree with a lot of what he has gotten done, but it’s something.
Oh, and he brought hockey back.
August 5th, 2008 at 9:38 PM
I have to come to Franken’s defense on the Bush-Coleman issue. It is fair to argue that Coleman would continue Bush-like policies, which haven’t been good.
However, Franken needs new talking points about things other than Bush and Coleman, it’s getting old.
August 5th, 2008 at 9:38 PM
One problem Al could be having is that he spent time in NYC (doing a little blow) and now is part of the Garrison Keillor style hate crowd. And yes, there are many Republicans in the same mind set. Once you get out in the real world, people are more rational. A bit more calm. They don’t want to hear some guy going off on some angry rant.
I read the full post. Interesting how Congressman Peterson attacked Norm, for supporting free trade. Peterson is a tool of Big Sugar. He can’t take a leak without calling Crystal Sugar and getting permission. But I won’t say that if I was at a candidate forum in Dilworth.
August 5th, 2008 at 11:10 PM
‘The Bush-Coleman economy has driven people into the ditch, and Coleman was riding shotgun,’ said Franken.
is this franken’s only qualification for becoming a u.s. senator? did franken come out and say he supported higher gasoline taxes? did franken say he was opposed to more drilling? did franken say he was against nuclear and other alternative energy? did franken say he was for distributing tire gauges to solve the energy problem?
August 5th, 2008 at 11:12 PM
They’re going to come out tonight with the new talking point: Doug Grow is a Lord Faris supporter, maybe even on her staff.
what you mean like Michael?
August 5th, 2008 at 11:31 PM
Meanwhile DeanBarkley won the debate
August 6th, 2008 at 8:17 AM
Yoni, has Anal Al’s campaign claimed Michael is a Lord Faris staffer? Are you breaking a little news here?
August 6th, 2008 at 8:51 AM
I was at FarmFest yesterday. Lord Faris had more volunteers and a bigger presence than anybody. Everyone who was there knows that. How does P Lopez not mention her in today’s Trib? Either she was not there to cover the event, or the Trib is intentionally not covering her. News judgement says she get covered. Lord Faris is now a factor. I saw three of her ads last night on TV.
August 6th, 2008 at 9:06 AM
I agree with Mike—Barkley won but there is no question that the farm areas are for Coleman over Franken.
August 6th, 2008 at 9:10 AM
Has anyone really stopped to think to themselves who the hell cares how this debate went? Did anyone honestly think farmers were going to gush for any democrat, let alone Franken? Agribusiness has been given a windfall under Bush because of soaring food prices (which also leads to soaring farm land prices) and as a whole, the group tends to vote on religion/values over issues.
August 6th, 2008 at 9:11 AM
Bill, Franken doesn’t have to “win” the farm areas; he only has to not get beat badly.
And in some of those farm areas, they don’t like RINO’s, of which ol’ Smokescreen’s the poster child.
But that’s ok; ol’ Smokescreen can take a lobbyist job next January – plus, he’ll be able to move outa “Landord” Larson’s basement.
August 6th, 2008 at 9:15 AM
“Did anyone honestly think farmers were going to gush for any democrat…”
What, and after a zillion trolls here continue to remind us that the “F” in DFL is for “Farmer”?
LOL!!!!
August 6th, 2008 at 9:21 AM
Actually PD, that comment in #23 pretty much illustrates why Democrats have such a solid reputation as elitist jackasses.
You’ve illustrated that Democrat’s allegiance to farmers (or any group of potential constituents) is strong relative only to the degree they can be considered victims.
Beyond that, you’ve condescended an entire group of people by deciding that their values aren’t issues.
Unbelievable.
August 6th, 2008 at 9:43 AM
“What, and after a zillion trolls here continue to remind us that the “F†in DFL is for “Farmerâ€?”
I’m the first to admit that F probably is dated in DFL no different than “republican” can no longer claim to actually be the party of Lincoln or that “southern” and democrats really fit together.
It’s not elitist to note that farmers typically are not democrat voters because they place religion/values over issues. Unless you think government should be in the business of religion, it isn’t an “issue” for a senate election.
August 6th, 2008 at 9:49 AM
Farmers are some pretty sharp people; even the all night buff job dolt#1 surely did on Al’s cowboy boots (a New Yorker in cowboy boots…LOL!) wasn’t enough to hide the fact that he is nothing more than a classless, unintelligent, leftwing lunatic.
The only good thing that came to Al from that ridiculous appearance was the training in humility he’s going to need when he gets his ass handed to him in November.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:30 AM
“It’s not elitist to note that farmers typically are not democrat voters because they place religion/values over issues. ”
Yes it is… and it’s also dead wrong. Farmers vote pretty strongly Democrat in much of the state. And it’s beyond ignorant and intolerant to condescend people for allowing their religious values to inform their political preferences.
I know Democrats just want everyone to agree with their anti-American, immoral, socialist agenda… And I know the DFL prefers mindless trolls who follow the party dogma, but that dogma and that agenda are weak tea for most everyone else.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:43 AM
“And I know the DFL prefers mindless trolls who follow the party dogma”
Isn’t the premise of your post that politicians should mindlessly follow religious dogma?
We can agree to disagree, but, I don’t want my senator picking his yay or nay vote exclusively on whether Jesus would be upset.
August 6th, 2008 at 11:07 AM
“Isn’t the premise of your post that politicians should mindlessly follow religious dogma?”
No. As usual, you miss the point. The premise of my post is that voters select candidates that reflect their preferences. Those preferences are informed by their values, including religious values.
Your premise, apparently, is that voters should reject their values and conscience. Tough position to take, but I realize that’s how Democrats operate.
“We can agree to disagree, but, I don’t want my senator picking his yay or nay vote exclusively on whether Jesus would be upset.”
Yep, you’re a good Democrat all right.
August 6th, 2008 at 12:40 PM
Chestnut…thanks for taking the time to explain to these folks what most all of are thinking. You are usually spot on, just a little brash around the edges. Maybe that is just to get through to them!!
August 6th, 2008 at 2:43 PM
Chestnut is one of them rightwingnuts that believes politicians should place their hand on The Constitution, and swear to uphold The Bible.
August 6th, 2008 at 2:47 PM
Good job today Tommy. You’re the best example we could possibly ask for why nobody should aspire to be a Democrat.
You get a gold star.