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    WHO WILL OBAMA PICK TO BE HIS VP?

    By Michael B. Brodkorb | August 19, 2008

    This post has nothing to do with exposing Minnesota Democrats, but I want to know who you think Senator Obama will pick to be his running mate. I have always been fascinated with the vice-presidential selection process.

    If Obama picks Senator Joseph Biden, Sean Broom of MN Publius will look like a genius because he proudly posted about the positive attributes of Biden for Democrats last Decemeber.  Please leave your answer in the comment section of this post.

    Topics: Uncategorized | 57 Comments »

    57 Responses to “WHO WILL OBAMA PICK TO BE HIS VP?”

    1. bowhuntdude Says:
      August 19th, 2008 at 10:47 am

      Hmmm will it be Giant Douche or Turd Sandwich? Tough call.

    2. flyi Says:
      August 19th, 2008 at 10:53 am

      Evan Bayh of Indiana is reported to have cancelled several planned appearances for later this week. He appears to be the choice. Don’t count on any announcements until at least Saturday/Sunday.

    3. jay Says:
      August 19th, 2008 at 11:02 am

      He needs Ohio and to solidify his nutroots. Dennis Kucinich!! OK in 08.

    4. Patrick Black Says:
      August 19th, 2008 at 11:07 am

      Evan Bayh is no good because Dems then lose a Senate seat.

      Tim Kaine has zero experience and would be a poor attack dog.

      Hillary Clinton is no good because she’s Hillary Clinton and has a certain husband.

      I supported Senator Joseph Biden during the primary. I still believe he is the best candidate. Barack Obama should choose him and I believe he likely will choose him.

    5. flyi Says:
      August 19th, 2008 at 11:13 am

      Valid point Patrick Black. But for whatever reason, he has chosen Bayh.

    6. John Says:
      August 19th, 2008 at 11:14 am

      Biden.

      I pray that Obama is that stupid.

    7. D Says:
      August 19th, 2008 at 11:29 am

      Chia-Pet Joe. Perfect.

    8. Patrick Black Says:
      August 19th, 2008 at 11:32 am

      John,

      What’s wrong with Biden? He’s far better than any other candidate.

    9. Gary Gross Says:
      August 19th, 2008 at 11:42 am

      Like Political Muse, I’m praying that Sen. Biden is the choice, though I’m certain we’re hoping for different reasons.

      Biden thought that America should divide a sovereign nation (Iraq) into 3 seperate countries.

      Biden embarassed himself during the John Roberts confirmation hearings, too. Watching him meander on & on was torture.

      Tim Kaine is similarly a bad choice.

      The reality is that Democrats have a short bench to choose from.

    10. jay Says:
      August 19th, 2008 at 11:58 am

      Obama has Maryland. It won’t be slow Joe. Besides he says Barry is “clean and articulate” for a minority.

      Maybe Kaine he might bring VA and he is a Govenor rather than a Senator.

      Sebelius is possible. Might bring KA and NPR loves her. Puts a white woman on the ticket who doesn’t alienate white men as much as Hillary does.

    11. Skydancer Says:
      August 19th, 2008 at 12:07 pm

      I think it should be John Edwards. Oh, wait, no, he’s another Democrat facing bad press. Never mind. It will probably be Bayh or Biden.

      Reverse the initials on the ticket and you have “B.O.”

    12. Nominal Fee Says:
      August 19th, 2008 at 12:12 pm

      The Georgia situation and Obama’s initial response clinched it for Biden. He was right about dividing post war Iraq but he also did make a fool of himself at the John Roberts confirmation hearings.

    13. Average Joe Says:
      August 19th, 2008 at 12:28 pm

      Biden. I pray that Obama is that stupid.

      No kidding. Mr. Plagiarism himself.

    14. Careful Observer Says:
      August 19th, 2008 at 12:37 pm

      I think Bayh and he won’t wait till the weekend – news gets lost on the weekend – especially when the Olympics are on the tube. I also don’t think he will do it Friday (although who knows, the Friday news dump didn’t exactly pan out for John Edwards). So I think tomorrow or Thursday.

    15. Skydancer Says:
      August 19th, 2008 at 12:46 pm

      I think they will announce a “short list” or something to build the hype, with a formal announcement on Monday.

    16. John Says:
      August 19th, 2008 at 12:50 pm

      Patrick Black,

      Joe “Plagiarist” Biden has a severe case of foot-in-mouth disease. It will only be a matter of days before he says something stupid again.

      Not to mention the combined ego of an Obama-Biden ticket would only increase claims of elitism.

    17. Chris Says:
      August 19th, 2008 at 1:15 pm

      Patrick,

      Biden has said such things as, “You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.” He also said “I mean, you got the first mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy.”

      Since Karl Marx is dead, I say Obama will pick the next John Edwards (minus, of course, the extra marital affair), Evan Bayh.

    18. Tommy Johnson Says:
      August 19th, 2008 at 1:52 pm

      I wonder what the odds are for, say, General Clark or General Zinni, on the “D” side? This place nor this place didn’t list ‘em…..

    19. alpou Says:
      August 19th, 2008 at 3:35 pm

      If Obama were smart he would pick Bill Richards. He is losing support with latino voters and Richards was in with the Clintons so it would also help secure the Clinton supporters.

    20. jay Says:
      August 19th, 2008 at 3:52 pm

      Clinton’s see Richards as a traitor. Not sure it makes them happy. Also alienates white working class votes.

    21. Red Girl Says:
      August 19th, 2008 at 4:10 pm

      I keep hearing rumors about Sebelius.

      I heard a rumor that the plane is being painted with it.

      Who knows?

    22. Chestnut Says:
      August 19th, 2008 at 4:13 pm

      The only candidate dumber, more wrong and less accomplished than Barak Obama is Joe Biden.

      The Obama/Biden ticket would be a vote for stuck on stupid.

    23. DJZ Says:
      August 19th, 2008 at 5:11 pm

      Biden has more foreign policy credentials and credibility (not always the same thing) than anyone running in the last two years. He is more accomplished than McCain.
      He’s been right and has a record of bucking or nudging the Senate (note, not just his party) over the years and was one of the Democrats helping Reagan wage the Cold War (which i where he picked up his credibility).
      He came out of the civil rights movement as a leader and went to the Senate.
      He’s is 84% on the environment.
      He 90% on women issues.
      The 100,000 new cops in the 90’s was Biden’s bill.
      Homeland Security Department was also a Biden piece, though the bumbling, bloated, underfunded monstrosity we have today is what happened after the administration got its hands on it.
      The Deficit erasing 1993 Economic Stimulus Plan which led to the longest expansion of prosperity was also dotted with Bidens fingerprints.

      You neo-cons forget that before you got into power, Congress had to work across party lines and deliver. Reagan/Bush could not have dealt the blows to the evil empire without support and some complacency from the Congress. Biden was there working with many including Congressman turned Defense Secretary Dick Cheney.

      Against that record and more you come back with plagiarism, foot-in-mouth (compared to ‘Mumbles Bush’?)and his bizarre comb-over? Weak boys and girls, very, very weak.

      Joe’s been there long enough that everytime you throw some weak accusation out of your ‘how to win in the 90’s’ book, Joe can point to many accomplishments that counter that charge.

      I know these things because once upon a time, young idealistic went off to DC to intern with the Senator from Delaware.

      Joe is no joke and will bring enough credibility and fight to the table to knock the dust off the old neo-cons.

      I hate to say it but, Pawlenty might stay home. Bayh and Pawlenty balance the principles out quite well. With Biden, Romney is the only choice McCain can make. Unless he panics and pick Tom Ridge- oh boy its Christmas for us.

      Alright ChinNut and Swiftease, we are ready for your barrage of profanity laced and homo-leaning insinuations and insults.

    24. Chestnut Says:
      August 19th, 2008 at 5:43 pm

      If there was any question whether or not David J. Ziegler is an ignorant fuck, I’d just point to that last comment.

      DJZ is one ignorant fuck.

    25. Chestnut Says:
      August 19th, 2008 at 5:46 pm

      Joe Biden is nearly a caricature for the ineptness, stupidity and laziness of the Democrat party.

      In that regard, DJZ, he’s very accomplished.

      LOL!

    26. Swiftee Says:
      August 19th, 2008 at 7:38 pm

      You have to remember that not only is Dave Ziegler a genuine kool-aid sodden Democrat, he’s also a scumbag, ambulance chasing lawyer.

      Allow me to interpret the lying blather that results when he attempts to communicate:

      He came out of the civil rights movement as a leader and went to the Senate.

      Biden bent over the table for Jesse Jackson.

      He’s is 84% on the environment.”

      He can’t afford a Gulfstream V, yet, and is making due with stinking Beechcraft Bonanza. Also, his house only consumes as much energy as Blooming Prarie as opposed to Pittsburgh, like Algore.

      He 90% on women issues.”

      He hasn’t raped anyone that we know of. And no one has claimed he the baby daddy.

      Homeland Security Department was also a Biden piece, though the bumbling, bloated, underfunded monstrosity we have today is what happened after the administration got its hands on it.

      He fought tooth and nail to get TSA unionized.

    27. j.l. Says:
      August 19th, 2008 at 7:55 pm

      “He is 90% on womens issues.” In todays P.C.world, that usually makes him 90% against men. “Bush/ Reagan could not have delt blows to the evil empire without support from congress.” Uh- BushII had support from congress too, it`s just that you try to forget about it.

    28. Bob K. Says:
      August 19th, 2008 at 9:20 pm

      DJZ, Biden never had anything to do with Homeland Security – maybe as a listener and wanting to unionize the group. The Hart-Rudman Commission, inititated by Bill Cohen, under Bill Clinton in 1998, issued a report in Januanry 31, 2001, suggesting combining FEMA, Coast Guard, Border patrol and Customs into one group for security purposes. Lkewise Senator Joe Lieberman, previously had introduced a bill, S-2452, outlining much the same type of organization. Bush proposed the final workings of Homeland Security which followed the Hart-Rudman
      Commisions proposed outline for such a security department.

    29. John Says:
      August 19th, 2008 at 10:47 pm

      DJZ,

      Picking Biden pretty much takes away from the “Change” rhetoric.

      Biden pretty much defines “politics as usual.”

    30. DJZ Says:
      August 20th, 2008 at 6:53 am

      “He came out of the civil rights movement as a leader and went to the Senate.”

      Biden bent over the table for Jesse Jackson.
      ————-

      So that’s what the civil rights movement of the 60’s was about?

      You’re pretty stupid in reality aren’t you? Tough to believe. BTW, what I do, helps idiots like you get that electrician’s certificate that keeps you from starving to death. Suck on that you foul mouthed little angry man.

    31. Chestnut Says:
      August 20th, 2008 at 8:46 am

      DJZ, whatever it is you do helps nobody. You’re too fucking socialist and selfish to help others.

      In fact, you’re so goddam stupid, I bet your iPod plays a repeating track “inhale, exhale, inhale, exhale” to remind you how to suck oxygen.

      You worthless pile of crap.

    32. DJZ Says:
      August 20th, 2008 at 9:20 am

      I’m so stupid and worthless? Yet somehow I’m more of a success than you have years left to become Chestnut. How’s that? Education, Economically, Socially and even Politically better than you.

      Ummm, isn’t the very essence of socialism to help everyone? Sweden and Denmark for instance.

      So, am I selfish, like a Republican who wants to skip on paying taxes, use all of government services and talk about bootstraps and how they fictionally got ‘theirs’, and others should stop whining and get theirs?
      Or a socialist who wants to spread the good fortune so that even deadbeats like the Two-Pump-Chump Swiftee can become taxpaying citizens?

    33. Tommy Johnson Says:
      August 20th, 2008 at 10:29 am

      Scrotee – “taxpaying citizen”??!?

      ROFLMAO!!!!

    34. Chestnut Says:
      August 20th, 2008 at 10:53 am

      “I’m so stupid and worthless?”

      admitting the problem is the first step to recovery.

      “Yet somehow I’m more of a success than you have years left to become Chestnut.”

      Hardly.

      “How’s that? Education, Economically, Socially and even Politically better than you.”

      Hardly. I’ve got my graduate degree, my six-figure salary, many close friends and I’m not a worthless fucking DFL troll like you DJZ.

      “Ummm, isn’t the very essence of socialism to help everyone?”

      No, that’s not the essence of socialism. That’s the essence of charity. If you don’t know what words mean, then don’t use them.

      “So, am I selfish, like a Republican who wants to skip on paying taxes,”

      Al Franken is a Democrat, did you forget?

      “use all of government services”

      Democrats also use all the gov’t services. The difference between Democrats and Republicans, however is that Republicans PAY for those services. Democrats don’t.

      “and talk about bootstraps and how they fictionally got ‘theirs’, and others should stop whining and get theirs?”

      Don’t project the fact that you’ve had your life handed to you on folks like me, who HAVE earned it.

      “Or a socialist who wants to spread the good fortune”

      You call it that, I’ll call it what it really is — THEFT. If it’s not yours, you have no right to take it and spread it anywhere.

      The only thing you have the right to spread is your own bullshit.

      You’re a worthless pile of dog shit, David J. Ziegler. Fucking worthless.

    35. DJZ Says:
      August 20th, 2008 at 11:12 am

      What’s with the full name? Are you a nun?

      You call it that, I’ll call it what it really is — THEFT. If it’s not yours, you have no right to take it and spread it anywhere.

      No, you poor, tattered, angry, little peasant. This country is ran on taxes. We elect people to decide how much, and what is worthy of that revenue.

      If you disagree, meet me at the spot of your choice and try to get there only on the roads you paid for yourself, use the gas you regulated to the right mix of C8H18, when you get there, I’ll be late so have a sandwich that you yourself inspected the meat, wheat, milk and storage for safe human consumption. When I arrive and immediately begin kicking your ass for just being stupid, be sure to tell the patrons to only call the cops you paid for, we’ll be sure that the ambulance charges you for whatever they want since regulation is anti-’freedom’. We’ll also be sure to get you to a facility that is private that you can pay for (Hospitals are non-profits).

      How about that Mr “I’m smart too, with a six figure job”?

    36. Tommy Johnson Says:
      August 20th, 2008 at 11:22 am

      “Democrats also use all the gov’t services. The difference between Democrats and Republicans, however is that Republicans PAY for those services. “

      ROFLMAO!!!!

      Damn, you’re a funny guy, ChinNuts!!!

      A (cheney)in’ MORON, but funny!!!

    37. Tommy Johnson Says:
      August 20th, 2008 at 11:24 am

      DJZ, this republiCon cowards like to hide behind their fake names and their keyboards. They think they’re scarin’ ya, by typin’ their names. They’re really rather pathetic, as ChinNuts proves daily.

    38. Chestnut Says:
      August 20th, 2008 at 11:43 am

      Dog shit says: “This country is ran on taxes. We elect people to decide how much, and what is worthy of that revenue.”

      Yes, dog shit, the GOVERNMENT is RUN on money raised via taxation. We do elect people. And they decide how much taxation is needed and how to spend that money.

      Spending that money on the common infrastructure is something I support. Moreover, I support the idea that everyone pays for it.

      Democrats don’t support those principles. They support giving half the population a free ride. Moreover, they support redirecting tax dollars OR theft OR your fucked up euphemism “spreading it around” to create entire classes of political dependents… What Democrats support is wholly immoral and un-American, in that regard.

      This country was founded on principles of freedom, liberty and self-determination. Socialists don’t much care for that foundation. Generations of welfare dependents is the legacy of the Democrat party.

      David J. Ziegler, you are a fucking stupid, lazy, intellectual COWARD.

    39. Sean Broom Says:
      August 20th, 2008 at 12:45 pm

      Jesus H. Christ this is arguably the biggest display of stupid I’ve seen on the internet today (and, I ask you is there a better receptacle of stupid than the internet?)

      You all are grownups! But read what you’ve written!

      I shudder when I think about the fact that the people on this comment thread can vote.

      Sean

    40. Chestnut Says:
      August 20th, 2008 at 12:53 pm

      I agree Sean, DJZ and Tommy put on a spectacular display of stupid.

    41. bidensashithead Says:
      August 20th, 2008 at 8:30 pm

      pompous ass Biden is the perfect turd to go down the sewer of history with osama bin bama.. `

    42. DJZ Says:
      August 20th, 2008 at 9:51 pm

      Yes, dog shit, the GOVERNMENT is RUN on money raised via taxation. We do elect people. And they decide how much taxation is needed and how to spend that money.

      No, this country is. Every single standard we set for public and private entities, that keep food safe, drugs somewhat safe, banks a safe bet if you limit your deposits to less than 100 grand, imports don’t kill us, Canadians don’t let the Taliban set up camp up in Fort Francis, Hospitals, Universities (public and private), grade and high schools, corporate responsibility, language, the entire civil justice system so people who bitch about being wronged like you do can go and find a remedy, and PBS is not all T&A. That’s what government does and benefits all ChinNuts.

      Spending that money on the common infrastructure is something I support. Moreover, I support the idea that everyone pays for it.

      Who doesn’t? Oh yeah, you don’t? You said last week you had no problem with 2/3 of American AND Foreign corporations who don’t pay federal taxes. That seems that you don’t insist that everyone pays for it. One step further, those who run the show at the corporations and live in America fall in the same category due to their income being tied into capital gains. Hey, they provide jobs so we should give these good people a break – is what you said. I say everyone enjoys or profits off of Americana needs to pay into the system.

      Democrats don’t support those principles. They support giving half the population a free ride.

      Let’s live in your fantasy and say that you mean welfare recipients. You know how many people are on welfare with no job in America? About 1% of the total population. 66% of American Corporations do not pay federal taxes.
      What half of Americans are you talking about ChinNuts?

    43. Chestnut Says:
      August 20th, 2008 at 10:04 pm

      What was that you just bleated, dog shit? That was among the least articulate, unintelligible blah blah blah bullshit I’ve heard ever. Quite an accomplishment if you’ve ever read the babble bleating Tommy does.

      Ziggy, you said something about you being successful. That’s hard to believe. You’re quite possibly the dumbest pile of liberal dog shit to visit these parts.

      I can’t imagine what you could possibly be successful at… maybe producing dog shit.

    44. Chestnut Says:
      August 20th, 2008 at 10:11 pm

      “No, this country is. Every single standard we set for public and private entities, that keep food safe, drugs somewhat safe, banks a safe bet if you limit your deposits to less than 100 grand, imports don’t kill us, Canadians don’t let the Taliban set up camp up in Fort Francis, Hospitals, Universities (public and private), grade and high schools, corporate responsibility, language, the entire civil justice system so people who bitch about being wronged like you do can go and find a remedy, and PBS is not all T&A.”

      WHAT DOES ANY OF THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE PRICE OF PEANUTS IN PERU? That’s what I mean by unintelligible dog shit, Ziggy. That’s your signature.

      “You said last week you had no problem with 2/3 of American AND Foreign corporations who don’t pay federal taxes.”

      No corporation pays taxes, ever. Those costs are passed on to the consumer. Democrats love to bitch about corporate taxes, but what they’re really saying is your cost of living is too low.

      “That seems that you don’t insist that everyone pays for it.”

      Corporations aren’t citizens. They can’t vote. But the folks Democrats have turned into political slaves don’t pay taxes, yet consume most of the services. Those DFL slaves are citizens, and they have a moral obligation to pay taxes.

      “One step further, those who run the show at the corporations and live in America fall in the same category due to their income being tied into capital gains.”

      Income is never capital gains, dog shit. Capital gains are made off of investments. If you want to penalize investment in America, that’s your agenda… a tough agenda, but that’s why they call you un-American.

      Do you really know how many people in America pay no income taxes? Between 35 and 40 percent. That’s just facts, Ziggy, you pile of worthless dog shit.

      Hell, about 15 percent of Americans don’t pay any taxes, consume all the benefits, and get a refund. That’s socialist, un-American dog shit Ziggy policy, dog shit.

      That’s the un-American bullshit you and your dog shit Ziggy friends have foisted on this country.

      Fuck you Ziggy dog shit.

    45. DJZ Says:
      August 21st, 2008 at 10:07 am

      Corporations aren’t citizens. They can’t vote. But the folks Democrats have turned into political slaves don’t pay taxes, yet consume most of the services.

      There is not enough space to explain the personhood of corporations. As far as not voting, why would they when they have PACs and lobbyists working on their behalf. They control who YOU vote for. Just ask John McCain. A lawyer for the railroads who later became President wrote this:
      “Corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed.” -Abe Lincoln.

      The poor consume most of the services? Like the military contracts and pentagon budget? Thats the biggest part of the budget. What you would call welfare costs about 2% of our budget. Exactly what are they using that come out to half of any budget? Pulled that out of Swiftee’s but didn’t you ChinNut?

      Speaking of corporations and welfare, you know the country’s biggest employer also holds the record for having the most employees on some type of public assistance? Cost us $2.5 billion in 2004 and yet, you think its OK that they don’t pay into the system.

      The House Committee on Education and the Workforce estimated the breakdown of costs for one 200-employee Wal-Mart store:

      * $36,000 a year for free or reduced school lunches, assuming that 50 families of employees qualify.
      * $42,000 a year for Section 8 rental assistance, assuming that 3% of the store employees qualify.
      * $125,000 a year for federal tax credits and deductions for low-income families, assuming that 50 employees are heads of households with a child, and 50 employees are married with two children.
      * $108,000 a year for the additional federal contribution to state children’s health insurance programs, assuming
      that 30 employees with an average of two children qualify.
      * $100,000 a year for additional Title I expenses, assuming 50 families with two children qualify.
      * $9,750 a year for the additional costs of low-income energy assistance.

      Overall, the committee estimates that one 200-person Wal-Mart store may result in an excess cost of $420,750 a year for federal taxpayers.

    46. Chestnut Says:
      August 21st, 2008 at 10:19 am

      “There is not enough space to explain the personhood of corporations. As far as not voting, why would they when they have PACs and lobbyists working on their behalf.”

      I didn’t say corporations didn’t have a voice, I said they can’t vote. You can’t argue that fact.

      “They control who YOU vote for. Just ask John McCain.”

      That’s generally bullshit, but if you’re pointing to John McCain, you may as well include that phony propped up do nothing, Barak Obama, or Hillary Clinton, or anyone.

      I appreciate the Lincoln quote. It’s a good check against socialism and the tyranny you wish to usher into this country. I’ll also see you with a quote from George Washington:

      “Government is not reason and it is not eloquence. It is force! Like fire it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action.”

      “The poor consume most of the services? Like the military contracts and pentagon budget? Thats the biggest part of the budget.”

      Are your really that stupid? Or just that dishonest? Military contracts and the pentagon budget hardly the largest part of the budget. That’s just a fucking lie. Human services are the largest share of government, and yes, those who pay no taxes consume the most of those services.

      “Speaking of corporations and welfare, you know the country’s biggest employer also holds the record for having the most employees on some type of public assistance?”

      Really? Federal, state and local governments — the nation’s largest employer — has the largest population of employees on government assistance? Huh. Who’d have thought?

      Your quite stupid, if not fully retarded, Ziggy dog shit.

    47. DJZ Says:
      August 21st, 2008 at 12:29 pm

      ChinNuts wrote:
      Are your really that stupid? Or just that dishonest? Military contracts and the pentagon budget hardly the largest part of the budget. That’s just a fucking lie.

      Really?

      According to these people it breaks down like this:
      MILITARY: 54% and $1,449 billion
      NON-MILITARY: 46% and $1,210 billion

      You should stop now, you’re just embarrassing yourself but, proving the fact that most conservatives have no clue about the government or how the real world operate and are comfortable in their ignorance. Be comfortable, stop defending it.

    48. Chestnut Says:
      August 21st, 2008 at 1:03 pm

      Huh, that’s pretty fascinating, considering the entire Department of defense budget is just $584 billion…. or 20 percent of the Federal Budget.

      You dumb, pile of Ziggy dog shit.

    49. Chestnut Says:
      August 21st, 2008 at 1:16 pm

      Here’s how the Federal budget breaks down, Ziggy dog shit. For those, like you, to fucking illiterate to know how the federal budget works, I’ll paint it in big blocks, in order of magnitude of spending:

      1) Social Security: $581 Billion
      2) Medicare/Medicade: $561 Billion
      3) Defense: $549 Billion (if you add the $70 billion emergency spending, you could put this second)
      4) Other discretionary: $493 Billion
      5) Other mandatory: $309 billion
      6) Interest on loans: $237 billion.

      I’m not sure how you figure the Defense budget is 300 percent larger than it really is, Ziggy dog shit, but that would be news to the rest of the world. — by the way, there are about a thousand documents at that link you provide, of the seven I reviewed, none of them support your lies about the federal budget… but they ALL supported mine.

      Here’s one of them, dog shit: http://frwebgate2.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/PDFgate.cgi?WAISdocID=34151692436+48+1+0&WAISaction=retrieve

      It even shows historically what the percentage of the federal budget was allocated to which departments over time.

      Here, Ziggy dog shit, you should stop now. You’re just embarrassing yourself, and proving the fact that most liberal, socialist pukes like you have no clue about the government or how the real world operates, and are comfortable in your retarded ignorance. Be comfortable, stop defending it.

    50. Chestnut Says:
      August 21st, 2008 at 1:20 pm

      It’s quite amazing how stupid David J. Ziegler is. I would recommend anyone who uses his services, fire him immediately for gross incompetence.

    51. DJZ Says:
      August 21st, 2008 at 3:50 pm

      Its the U.S Federal Budget Fiscal Year 2009.

      “Military” includes Dept. of Defense ($653 billion), the military portion from other departments ($150 billion), and an additional $162 billion to supplement the Budget’s misleading and vast underestimate of only $38 billion for the “war on terror (which is at about 12 billion a month now).” Also included in my numbers is the ‘past military’ category that represents veterans’ benefits plus 80% of the interest on the debt.

      I know how you republicans tend to forget about our troops when they come home.

      As far as the libel attempt: A peon like yourself couldn’t sway the decision makers in this area. As a matter of fact, your sloppy research, math, grasp of facts and coarse language wouldn’t get a phone call returned from my people.

    52. Chestnut Says:
      August 21st, 2008 at 8:19 pm

      What libel attempt, dog shit? You’re demonstrably stupid, dishonest and incompetent. There’s no libel in saying that. And anyone who’d call you for services is an abject fool. You should be fired, pronto for your abject incompetence and dishonesty.

      Unfortunately, you can’t link to a source for your bullshit about the military budget. The FACT remains that the Department of defense, contrary to your bullshit assertion, remains about 20 percent of the federal budget.

      You’re a goddam liar, Ziggy dog shit. A peon like yourself, demonstrating such sloppy research and a complete lack of skills in the area of math, facts and discourse shouldn’t get a phone call from anyone, much less the scum who are your clients.

    53. DJZ Says:
      August 22nd, 2008 at 4:39 pm

      Hmmm, medical device companies, energy co-ops, hospitals, financial investment firm, and a couple of shipping companies are the main sources. You wouldn’t happen to use any of those ’scum’ would you?

      My numbers are accurate and you got the details on where they came from. Unless you plan on withdrawing the troops and all support by December 2008, you’d better add something to your numbers. Also, the cost of veteran benefits and number drawing from that will increase- which is not reflected in your number.

      You leaving that out of your math (war on terror and veteran benefits) but, including it in your political spin is a perfect summation of the phony little poser you are.

      Its the usual Republican math and economics. Its exactly why they spin us into record deficits AND debt.

      Its almost time for you to punch that time card out so I’ll let you go.

    54. DJZ Says:
      August 22nd, 2008 at 4:42 pm

      Its the U.S Federal Budget Fiscal Year 2009.

      “Military” includes:

      1. Dept. of Defense ($653 billion),
      the military portion from other departments ($150 billion),

      2. and an additional $162 billion to supplement the Budget’s misleading and vast underestimate of only $38 billion for the “war on terror (which is at about 12 billion a month now).”

      3. Also included in my numbers is the ‘past military’ category that represents veterans’ benefits plus 80% of the interest on the debt.

      I know how you republicans tend to forget about our troops when they come home.
      —————
      Which one of those points you disagree with and think should be elsewhere?

    55. Chestnut Says:
      August 22nd, 2008 at 6:57 pm

      Ziggy, I used the numbers of the Congressional Budget Office. Sorry, you provided the link, moron.

    56. DJZ Says:
      August 22nd, 2008 at 9:49 pm

      I try to give yo an out and let you go and shut up somewhere but you can’t help opening your big fat trap and showing us how your so smart that you can’t pick up on the little things. Its the little things that kill you.
      This is the link I provided:
      http://www.gpoaccess.gov/usbudget/

      Its the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) budget presented on the Govenment Printing Office website, an EXECUTIVE BRANCH department. The budget presented is that from the President of United States- not the Congress (CBO)- a different branch that’s been kept in the dark on the goings on of the Executive Branch.

      So, because you couldn’t keep that hole of yours shut, I had to smack you down with numbers from your own Party’s Leader- The President.
      I’m sure my Democrats in Congress presented a smaller budget through the CBO, we operate under something fiscal responsibility.

      You now have an example of how I am better than you. Go and cuss your way out of that loser.

    57. DJZ Says:
      August 23rd, 2008 at 8:51 pm

      …and I know you’ve read this.

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