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	<title>Comments on: COLEMAN CAMPAIGN RELEASES MEMO REFUTING &#8220;POLL&#8221; FROM STAR TRIBUNE</title>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 20:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In 2007 the Star Tribune did a random poll of registered voters in MN to determine their party affiliation (if any). They learned that with leaners 45% are Democrats, 33% are Republicans, and 22% are Independents. 

Thus for the poll in question it might best to: add 3% more to registered Democrats, 7% more to registered Republicans, and subtract 5% from Independents. Since we do not know the split (it was  unprofessionally not published) we cannot determine how each of these groups are voting (for example, are 90% of Democrats voting for Franken?, 70%?, etc.). My guess is that when you take into account the independents, Franken is ahead but within the MOE. That means that there REALLY has been a big shift to Franken (but not as big as the Tribune poll would have you believe).

Furthermore, voters don&#039;t generally tune in to a campaign until 30 days out. We are at that moment and things are bad for the GOP. Thus, I&#039;m not surprised that Franken is gaining. 

My prediction is that polls in the coming weeks will validate the above poll in terms of who is ahead (Franken), but not the margin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 2007 the Star Tribune did a random poll of registered voters in MN to determine their party affiliation (if any). They learned that with leaners 45% are Democrats, 33% are Republicans, and 22% are Independents. </p>
<p>Thus for the poll in question it might best to: add 3% more to registered Democrats, 7% more to registered Republicans, and subtract 5% from Independents. Since we do not know the split (it was  unprofessionally not published) we cannot determine how each of these groups are voting (for example, are 90% of Democrats voting for Franken?, 70%?, etc.). My guess is that when you take into account the independents, Franken is ahead but within the MOE. That means that there REALLY has been a big shift to Franken (but not as big as the Tribune poll would have you believe).</p>
<p>Furthermore, voters don&#8217;t generally tune in to a campaign until 30 days out. We are at that moment and things are bad for the GOP. Thus, I&#8217;m not surprised that Franken is gaining. </p>
<p>My prediction is that polls in the coming weeks will validate the above poll in terms of who is ahead (Franken), but not the margin.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 23:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys are aware that your party has been the ones in power for the last 8 years right?  Because in the past 8 years, everything about this country has detiorated because of your policies.  While you guys have yet to realize this correlation between Republican governance and incompentent governance, America certainly has.  That&#039;s why the first Minnesota poll when they measured the electorate as 31% Republican and 34% Democrat is the flawed poll.  There is absolutely no way that is the partisan breakdown of this state at this time, or was that time back in September.

While I will concede the 42%-26% spread is too favorable for us Dems, I will say that that more closely resembles the Democratic advantage we&#039;ve gained from your complete ineptitude for how to not run a country in the ground than the 34%-31% advantage from the first poll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys are aware that your party has been the ones in power for the last 8 years right?  Because in the past 8 years, everything about this country has detiorated because of your policies.  While you guys have yet to realize this correlation between Republican governance and incompentent governance, America certainly has.  That&#8217;s why the first Minnesota poll when they measured the electorate as 31% Republican and 34% Democrat is the flawed poll.  There is absolutely no way that is the partisan breakdown of this state at this time, or was that time back in September.</p>
<p>While I will concede the 42%-26% spread is too favorable for us Dems, I will say that that more closely resembles the Democratic advantage we&#8217;ve gained from your complete ineptitude for how to not run a country in the ground than the 34%-31% advantage from the first poll.</p>
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		<title>By: Chestnut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chestnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 19:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tommy, dip shit, what major media consolidations have taken place in the last few years? Please expound, you fat, stupid, lazy fucking dip shit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tommy, dip shit, what major media consolidations have taken place in the last few years? Please expound, you fat, stupid, lazy fucking dip shit.</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tommy Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 18:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;ALL of the consolidation of media, particularly radio, took place under Clinton.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;


ROFLMAO!!!


Yep!  No mergers or acquisitions in THIS decade - in your world, which is Planet Denial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;ALL of the consolidation of media, particularly radio, took place under Clinton.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>ROFLMAO!!!</p>
<p>Yep!  No mergers or acquisitions in THIS decade &#8211; in your world, which is Planet Denial.</p>
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		<title>By: eric zaetsch</title>
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		<dc:creator>eric zaetsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 15:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about Barkley?

Will the negative ads turn positive toward election day, and the name calling cease, if Barkley keeps showing an increase in support because he isn&#039;t [lacking funds, perhaps lacking that intent too] into the name-calling advertising approach.

Attrition in the major party camps favors Barkley.

And polls now - are they irrelevant given how much more cash/ads we have before the end of October?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about Barkley?</p>
<p>Will the negative ads turn positive toward election day, and the name calling cease, if Barkley keeps showing an increase in support because he isn&#8217;t [lacking funds, perhaps lacking that intent too] into the name-calling advertising approach.</p>
<p>Attrition in the major party camps favors Barkley.</p>
<p>And polls now &#8211; are they irrelevant given how much more cash/ads we have before the end of October?</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 06:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s only one metric that matters here, the incredibly flawed party sampling.  13% of people may wake up and change their minds on who they&#039;re voting for, but no one wakes up and says, &quot;I&#039;m tired of being a Republican...socialism looks like fun, sign me up.&quot;

What a joke.  If Bolger says that Norm has a statistically significant lead, you can count on it as reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s only one metric that matters here, the incredibly flawed party sampling.  13% of people may wake up and change their minds on who they&#8217;re voting for, but no one wakes up and says, &#8220;I&#8217;m tired of being a Republican&#8230;socialism looks like fun, sign me up.&#8221;</p>
<p>What a joke.  If Bolger says that Norm has a statistically significant lead, you can count on it as reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Chestnut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chestnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 04:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And in conclusion, I&#039;d like to add: Fuck you Tommy, you&#039;re a dumb, lazy, fat fucking dip shit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And in conclusion, I&#8217;d like to add: Fuck you Tommy, you&#8217;re a dumb, lazy, fat fucking dip shit.</p>
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		<title>By: Chestnut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chestnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 04:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You canâ€™t listen to FM radio without listening to Clear Channel; we have republiCon â€œfree marketeersâ€ to blame for that. And thatâ€™s but one example.&quot;

ALL of the consolidation of media, particularly radio, took place under Clinton. 

Again, what the fuck are you talking about dumb ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You canâ€™t listen to FM radio without listening to Clear Channel; we have republiCon â€œfree marketeersâ€ to blame for that. And thatâ€™s but one example.&#8221;</p>
<p>ALL of the consolidation of media, particularly radio, took place under Clinton. </p>
<p>Again, what the fuck are you talking about dumb ass.</p>
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		<title>By: Chestnut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chestnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 04:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Well, what do you expect from republiCon Wall Street bail-out thiefs?&quot;

Huh? Democrats drove this thing, dumb ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Well, what do you expect from republiCon Wall Street bail-out thiefs?&#8221;</p>
<p>Huh? Democrats drove this thing, dumb ass.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Lang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Lang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 04:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Average Joe Says: 
October 4th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Only a crackhead would believe this poll.

Hmm!  Barak Obama used to smoke crack!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Average Joe Says:<br />
October 4th, 2008 at 3:31 pm<br />
Only a crackhead would believe this poll.</p>
<p>Hmm!  Barak Obama used to smoke crack!</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tommy Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 03:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>***The Strib should be embarrassed for publishing something so clearly suspect.***

Well, what do you expect from republiCon Wall Street bail-out thiefs?

At one time, how many dailies did we have?  But you assholes that claim to LOVE &quot;competition&quot; allowed mergers and acquitions to stifle competition.

You can&#039;t listen to FM radio without listening to Clear Channel; we have republiCon &quot;free marketeers&quot; to blame for that.  And that&#039;s but one example.

The problem isn&#039;t what assholes like you, Chestnut, say - it&#039;s what you DO.

And usually, it&#039;s the exact opposite of what you preach.

And that&#039;s why reasonable people no longer trust republiCons to tell the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>***The Strib should be embarrassed for publishing something so clearly suspect.***</p>
<p>Well, what do you expect from republiCon Wall Street bail-out thiefs?</p>
<p>At one time, how many dailies did we have?  But you assholes that claim to LOVE &#8220;competition&#8221; allowed mergers and acquitions to stifle competition.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t listen to FM radio without listening to Clear Channel; we have republiCon &#8220;free marketeers&#8221; to blame for that.  And that&#8217;s but one example.</p>
<p>The problem isn&#8217;t what assholes like you, Chestnut, say &#8211; it&#8217;s what you DO.</p>
<p>And usually, it&#8217;s the exact opposite of what you preach.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s why reasonable people no longer trust republiCons to tell the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Chestnut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chestnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 01:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The poll sample is bullshit. The Strib should be embarrassed for publishing something so clearly suspect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The poll sample is bullshit. The Strib should be embarrassed for publishing something so clearly suspect.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom A.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 23:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ll find out out in a month which polls were closer...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ll find out out in a month which polls were closer&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: PRESIDENTIAL RACE A DEAD-HEAT IN MINNESOTA, EXCEPT IN UPCOMING POTENTIAL STAR TRIBUNE POLL &#124; Minnesota Democrats Exposed</title>
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		<dc:creator>PRESIDENTIAL RACE A DEAD-HEAT IN MINNESOTA, EXCEPT IN UPCOMING POTENTIAL STAR TRIBUNE POLL &#124; Minnesota Democrats Exposed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 22:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] waiting for the Star Tribune to release their poll numbers on the presidential race in Minnesota. Based on a sample methodology that favors Democrats, I would expect the Star Tribune&#8217;s poll to show Senator Obama with potentially a twenty-point [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] waiting for the Star Tribune to release their poll numbers on the presidential race in Minnesota. Based on a sample methodology that favors Democrats, I would expect the Star Tribune&#8217;s poll to show Senator Obama with potentially a twenty-point [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael B. Brodkorb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael B. Brodkorb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 22:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PlymouthDem:  According to the strib, this race isn&#039;t a dead-heat...Franken has a nine-point lead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PlymouthDem:  According to the strib, this race isn&#8217;t a dead-heat&#8230;Franken has a nine-point lead.</p>
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		<title>By: Franco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Franco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 22:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I remember when Kennedy kept blasting the Minnesota poll in 2006 when it showed him 10-15 points down. I seem to recall him losing by something like 20 points...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I remember when Kennedy kept blasting the Minnesota poll in 2006 when it showed him 10-15 points down. I seem to recall him losing by something like 20 points&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Wendell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Wendell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 21:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the Strib&#039;s last gasp. A paper that can&#039;t pay their creditors and is losing more than 1% of their subscribers per month over the last 2+ years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the Strib&#8217;s last gasp. A paper that can&#8217;t pay their creditors and is losing more than 1% of their subscribers per month over the last 2+ years.</p>
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		<title>By: plymouthDem</title>
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		<dc:creator>plymouthDem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 20:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ha.  So survey USA shows a 10 point swing and that&#039;s fine but the strib shows a similar swing and that&#039;s impossible?

Face it Michael, this race is dead heat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ha.  So survey USA shows a 10 point swing and that&#8217;s fine but the strib shows a similar swing and that&#8217;s impossible?</p>
<p>Face it Michael, this race is dead heat.</p>
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		<title>By: Average Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Average Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 20:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only a crackhead would believe this poll.</description>
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		<title>By: rednomore</title>
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		<dc:creator>rednomore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 20:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Norm should share his internal daily poll tracking numbers rather than try to explain the published polls. Obviously, he can&#039;t do that if his internals are showing him trailing. In that case, you turn to someone like Glen Bolger (as seen in the above memo)and pay him to spin, spin, spin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Norm should share his internal daily poll tracking numbers rather than try to explain the published polls. Obviously, he can&#8217;t do that if his internals are showing him trailing. In that case, you turn to someone like Glen Bolger (as seen in the above memo)and pay him to spin, spin, spin.</p>
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		<title>By: Poll Watcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Poll Watcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 20:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is SOP for MDE and the GOP.  If your guys are ahead - trumpet the results and the brilliant pollsters.  If your guys are behind - the pollsters are wrong and all dolts.  Well, I guess that worked in Mark Kennedy&#039;s campaign, oh wait...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is SOP for MDE and the GOP.  If your guys are ahead &#8211; trumpet the results and the brilliant pollsters.  If your guys are behind &#8211; the pollsters are wrong and all dolts.  Well, I guess that worked in Mark Kennedy&#8217;s campaign, oh wait&#8230;</p>
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