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MINNPOST LABELS MADIA “A DUD”; BONOFF WAS A STRONGER CANDIDATE
By Michael B. Brodkorb | November 6, 2008
“Bonoff clearly would have been a stronger candidate against Erik Paulsen, a conservative Republican who will now fill the seat held for years by moderate Republican Jim Ramstad. But once she was rejected in the endorsement process, there was no realistic chance for her to take her case to the voters.” Source: MinnPost, November 6, 2008
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So Bonoff — soccer mom in a suburban district, businesswoman, a proven winner — was out of the race before she ever got a chance to run. The unknown who’d been so good at organizing and fundraising proved a dud in his first time on the ballot.” Source: MinnPost, November 6, 2008
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November 6th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
I’m suprised to see them being so in tune with reality. My guess would have been immediate cries of racism.
November 6th, 2008 at 2:54 pm
Mike,
Restoring a better future for this country is going to require action, now. It’s clear that the national GOP and the Minnesota GOP parties have neither the talent, will or ability, at this moment, to oppose the burden of socialism that is guaranteed to be pressed on this nation in the next two to four years.
I have a good congressional representative in John Kline. However, I’m interested in knowing if there are any conservative groups assembled or starting to come together in Dakota County.
I don’t see any web sites for such groups online, or linked to from the MNGOP.com web site.
If nothing exists, I’m interested in getting something started. Specifically, to get an organization started that provides vocal support of conservative candidates (conservatives, versus Republicans — they are NOT one in the same), and that can effectively vocalize the conservative ideals that make this country great.
If anyone knows of a group, please let me know.
Thanks.
November 6th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
I will add that there is an aggressive campaign afoot that will culminate in legislation next year to, FOR THE FIRST TIME, tax employee and employer contributions to 401(k) programs.
The intent is to eliminate the 401(k) and force workers into ANOTHER government-administered plan that forces investments in to low-yield government bonds.
Ostensibly, this is the Democrats answer on how to strip private investment and re-direct retirement savings into government coffers so they can finance their massive expansion of government and socialist programs.
This should scare the living hell out of anyone and enrage everyone.
This represents an unprecedented power grab by the federal government. It will destroy the private equity markets and our economy.
This must be stopped.
November 6th, 2008 at 3:15 pm
“I will add that there is an aggressive campaign afoot that will culminate in legislation next year to, FOR THE FIRST TIME, tax employee and employer contributions to 401(k) programs. “
You should quit reading the “Planet Denial Daily.”
Here on terra firma, there is simply NO CHANCE for that to happen.
On your world, who knows?
November 6th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
They’ve already held hearings on these proposals in Congress, Tommy. There’s considerable support for these proposals by congressional Democrats.
November 6th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
Kyle, that’s NOT going to happen.
You need to remember that even though Bushy McSame said that, Bushy McSame was against torture before he was for it.
Not to mention, he’s simply (cheney)in’ senile.
November 6th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
Yeah, me and one other person argued this to a Madia troll. Madia had not chance; he didn’t fit the district. He was a young
November 6th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
What the hell are you talking about Tommy. No Republican has ever proposed taxing 401(k) contributions.
This is a new proposal from Democrats. There’s a serious PR campaign behind it. And congressional Democrats have already conducted hearings about doing this…
Expect a Democrat to introduce legislation to eliminate tax breaks on 401(k) contributions next year as part of a package to force workers to invest retirement contributions into low-yield government-issued bonds. Expect that legislation to be introduced next year, probably early on.
The effect of this legislation is to strip trillions from private investment and commandeer voluntary employee retirement plans for government spending.
It’s so Un-American, it could only be a Democrat proposal.
November 6th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
Yeah, me and one other person argued this to a Madia troll. Madia had no chance; he didn’t fit the district. He was a young opportunist with no accomplishments and no ties to the district. This is a suburban district: a moderate suburban Democrat woman fits this district–as does Paulsen in my opinion. If Terri Bonoff has any chance, she has to run in 2010 before Paulsen gets deep ties to the district like Ramstad. And he will, just look at his 08 margin. It’ll be harder for Bonoff b/c the incumbent party usually doesn’t pick up seats during the first midterm. The DFL also should not have run a slash and burn campaign again Paulsen: big turnoff in this district.
November 6th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
The 3rd will almost certainly be a Democratic targeted race in ‘10 because the district is not a conservative leaning one and votes quite easily for Democratic candidates. Ironically, Paulsen can probably keep this seat if he votes like Ramstad and Frenzel before him but given his performance in the Minnesota House, he tends to vote much more like Michelle Bachman. The more he votes like Bachmann, the less likely he is to keep his seat. Paulsen said he would be in the “Ramsted tradition” but there is no evidence that he can do that. And, if President Obama has a successful first two years in the Presidency (which I believe he will) then Paulsen’s support for President Obama – or lack of it – could be the pivotal issue in ‘10.
November 6th, 2008 at 5:28 pm
Kyle, that’s NOT going to happen.
A prediction by Tommy Brown shirt, the guy who told us Norm, Bachmann and Paulsen would all lose.
November 6th, 2008 at 5:52 pm
How did that Sinatra song go?
But it’s so easy
Looking at the game the morning after
Adding up the kisses and the laughter
Knowing how you’d play it
if the chance to play it over ever came
But then a Monday morning quarterback
never lost a game
November 6th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
LVP – this is no MNQBing. Many people predicted this very outcome. Now Madia and CD 3 DFLers have to live with the fact that they spent more on this race than nearly every other race in the country – and got beat by 8 points.
Madia was a joke 12 months ago, the only difference between now and then is that he’s proven all his naysayers right.
We can only guess what would have happened had Sarvi gotten that kind of support!
November 6th, 2008 at 8:18 pm
Hey Tommy, you`re simply (biden)`n senile. See how clever I am?
November 6th, 2008 at 9:14 pm
Kyle:
“Conservative ideals” screwed us over big time since 2000. Are you really serious?
November 6th, 2008 at 9:24 pm
IR-MN:
Yeah, Madia should have run a positive issue oriented campaign like Erik did.
Oh wait… Ashwin Madia did!
Erik just sat back and selfishly relished the fraudulent ads his allies dreamed up to trash Madia. He is the most devisive and dishonst candidate the 3rd CD has ever seen. He won a seat in the Congress without even speaking to the issues that matter to middle class families.
I guess Erik learned early on that any debate with Ashwin on the issues was a mismatch, so he hid behind Rammer, and Carey, and Brodkorb so the voters wouldn’t be exposed to his empty rhetoric.
For Erik to extend an olive branch to Madia supporters shows his astonishing gall.
November 6th, 2008 at 10:40 pm
Bonoff missed her small, potential window.
2010 will is likely to be a far better year, and Bonoff would have to give up her Senate seat to run.
Plus Paulsen will have a year or so to actually introduce the real him to the voters unfiltered.
I think the DFL will resort once again to the JV team.
November 6th, 2008 at 11:16 pm
“For Erik to extend an olive branch to Madia supporters shows his astonishing gall.”
Huh? Whaddya want him to say? “I’m going to represent the 49% who supported me.”
I think bernie nailed it on the head. If Paulsen takes things issue-by-issue and votes for the district like Rammer, he’ll lock up this seat for a while. If he becomes Boehner’s pet, he will have a very difficult re-election bid.
Regardless, this will receive Red-to-Blue funds in 2010.
I’m going on the record to say we haven’t seen the last of Madia. Very Impressive political instincts. But I think 2010 for another run is too early.
Could see him making a fine MN Attorney General. You heard it here first.
November 7th, 2008 at 7:30 am
““Conservative ideals†screwed us over big time since 2000. Are you really serious?”
How so? Ninety percent of all that followed the 2000 election was a brilliant display of liberalism.
George Bush was a fantastic liberal.
November 7th, 2008 at 7:35 am
“Erik just sat back and selfishly relished the fraudulent ads his allies dreamed up to trash Madia.”
Seriously? That you could type a sentence like that with a straight face illustrates what a blind, partisan fraud you are.
Puh-lease.
“He won a seat in the Congress without even speaking to the issues that matter to middle class families.”
Paulsen was elected by middle-class families. Who the hell are you to tell middle-class families what issues are and what issues are not important to them?
You may have found agreement with whatever crap Madia was sputtering, but it wasn’t the issues or the message that the district found most palatable.
You’re kind of an arrogant prick, aren’t you dan.
“For Erik to extend an olive branch to Madia supporters shows his astonishing gall.”
Indeed. Erik should tell the liberals to stick it in their ears. They spent the entire election cycle smearing, trashing and telling lies about him.
Erik needs to go to Washington and become a strong, consistent (key word) voice for conservativism.
Democrats aren’t bi-partisan. Why the hell should conservatives try to be?
November 7th, 2008 at 7:42 am
I’m going to start a campaign of Instant Runoff Voting. Get this 49% or what ever crap. Give a candidate a real mandate in which to work with.
That will settle things. I don’t think we could do it for President but I believe the time has come for this, at least in our District.
I also beleive we need to stop these negative ads. Those will work against the Incumbant next round. Working on ways to keep those close by and ready for the next round in ‘10. Will also be watchin on the voting and money trail. See what Paulsen votes for and what special interest group paid him off. Should be interesting to watch!
November 7th, 2008 at 8:14 am
Watch for redistricting following the next census. The third district may not exist anymore.
November 7th, 2008 at 8:18 am
Madia can win the next time out. However, he will have to establish himself in the community to lose the carpetbagger perception.
He will also have to run on a platform and be honest about that platform.
November 7th, 2008 at 8:20 am
Emerald, if you want more moonbats in congress and all other levels of government by all means support IRV.
November 7th, 2008 at 8:22 am
IRV is a joke… The only people pushing for it are those looking to send more tax dollars to third parties at a time when we need to eliminate the use of any tax dollars on any political party activities.
IRV, ostensibly, would enable the Green Party, etc. to achieve “major party status” because people might vote for them in the first round, knowing that their candidate would fail in the second.
You want IRV? Fine, then tie the determination of “major party status” to the final outcome of the election and/or end the idiocy of public financing for candidates and political parties.
November 7th, 2008 at 8:58 am
Sounds like they could have been talking about the race in the First District, where voters went with a candidate who spent over $1 million to get the same percentages as GOP candidates in the Fourth District where Ed Mathews spent $82,330 and the Eighth District where Michael Cummins spent $15,805 against Jim Oberstar.
November 7th, 2008 at 9:26 am
The fact is, no matter how Paulsen votes whether it is liberal or conservative, the DFL will pull out all the stops and slander him again in 2010. They cannot help themselves. Both parties run terrible campaigns full of garbage and twisted lies and deceit. A clean campaign based on the issues is impossible in a party based election. Municipal elections that are nonpartisan are the last bastion of civility and credibility left in our political system. Good people are less likely than ever to get involved with this corrupt system. Candidates from both sides will continue to be less and less credible and qualified unless the system is somehow overhauled. Minnesota politics is abysmal and declining.
November 7th, 2008 at 9:55 am
“The fact is, no matter how Paulsen votes whether it is liberal or conservative, the DFL will pull out all the stops and slander him again in 2010.”
EXACTLY.
November 7th, 2008 at 9:59 am
Erik has NOTHING to gain by placating whiny liberals. He has EVERYTHING to gain — and a moral responsibility — to vote (and ACT) consistently conservative, and to become a solid voice for conservativism…
If he does that, and then later loses, at least he will have conducted himself with integrity and based on principle.
Negotiation and compromise is fine, to a degree. But buckling to this nonstop liberal b.s. has to end.
Three principles/issues he can focus on are:
1) Government is neither a charity nor a security blanket for mismanaged companies and the irresponsible actions of individuals. The force of government is the force of oppression. It cannot give you anything without taking something greater first.
2) There is no “right†to have your healthcare services — or any other services — paid for by someone else, and there never has been. “Entitlement” programs must be reduced or eliminated.
3) The idea that human activity causes global temperature fluctuations is a lie. Environmental protection and conservation are important, but no economic or environmental policy should ever be predicated on a hoax.
November 7th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
It’s not like Bonoff would have been trashed here had she been the one running…and then we’d see a nearly identical post from Brodkorb about Madia. It’s all smearing mud in the faces of the losers for no reason. It’s not enough to be happy with Paulsen, apparently? The 3rd District gets what the 3rd District wants, and that’s something to be happy about. Why be a dick?
November 7th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
It’s not like Bonoff wouldn’t have been trashed here had she been the one running…and then we’d see a nearly identical post from Brodkorb about Madia. It’s all smearing mud in the faces of the losers for no reason. It’s not enough to be happy with Paulsen, apparently? The 3rd District gets what the 3rd District wants, and that’s something to be happy about. Why be a dick?
November 7th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
Woo, this post is about an article in MinnPost. Not exactly a GOP organization.
This is about blue on blue infighting and second guessing, which is always fun to watch.
November 7th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
I was shocked Bonoff didn’t get the nomination last Spring. But then again, I’m only part of the general electorate, not a DFL delegate.
Doug Grow writes: “There already are whispers that Bachmann has her eyes set on running for Senate against DFLer Amy Klobuchar or running for governor, if Pawlenty decides not to run.”
Bachmann would get crushed in a statewide race.
November 7th, 2008 at 9:18 pm
Kyle thinks Michelle Bachmann is a lefty.
Good luck son.