Comments on: DAYS BEFORE THE START OF THE U.S. SENATE RECOUNT AND AFTER PROMISING TO BE “NON-PARTISAN”, RITCHIE ADMITS “THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A NON-PARTISAN ELECTED SECRETARY OF STATE…” http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/11/08/days-before-the-start-of-the-us-senate-recount-and-after-promising-to-be-non-partisan-ritchie-admits-there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-non-partisan-elected-secretary-of-state/ Sun, 12 Feb 2012 13:19:50 +0000 hourly 1 By: Woo http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/11/08/days-before-the-start-of-the-us-senate-recount-and-after-promising-to-be-non-partisan-ritchie-admits-there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-non-partisan-elected-secretary-of-state/comment-page-1/#comment-260043 Woo Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:00:39 +0000 http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/?p=7064#comment-260043 Seems like all he's saying is that an SOS is a member of a political party, not that it's impossible for him to act honestly, in a non-partisan manner, in accordance with the law. This is a pretty big reach to create controversy. Seems like all he’s saying is that an SOS is a member of a political party, not that it’s impossible for him to act honestly, in a non-partisan manner, in accordance with the law.

This is a pretty big reach to create controversy.

]]> By: John F Not Kerry http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/11/08/days-before-the-start-of-the-us-senate-recount-and-after-promising-to-be-non-partisan-ritchie-admits-there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-non-partisan-elected-secretary-of-state/comment-page-1/#comment-259853 John F Not Kerry Mon, 10 Nov 2008 04:52:00 +0000 http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/?p=7064#comment-259853 danbrome Says: "He is off in a dream world where calling names and babbling win the day." "Walter and Michael are competing for Town Stooge." Mr. Pot, meet Mr. Kettle. danbrome Says:

“He is off in a dream world where calling names and babbling win the day.”

“Walter and Michael are competing for Town Stooge.”

Mr. Pot, meet Mr. Kettle.

]]> By: danbrome http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/11/08/days-before-the-start-of-the-us-senate-recount-and-after-promising-to-be-non-partisan-ritchie-admits-there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-non-partisan-elected-secretary-of-state/comment-page-1/#comment-259844 danbrome Mon, 10 Nov 2008 04:25:49 +0000 http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/?p=7064#comment-259844 Here's the point: Walter and Michael are competing for Town Stooge. Here’s the point:

Walter and Michael are competing for Town Stooge.

]]> By: danbrome http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/11/08/days-before-the-start-of-the-us-senate-recount-and-after-promising-to-be-non-partisan-ritchie-admits-there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-non-partisan-elected-secretary-of-state/comment-page-1/#comment-259843 danbrome Mon, 10 Nov 2008 04:23:08 +0000 http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/?p=7064#comment-259843 Jerry... Walter does not understand common sense or reality. He is off in a dream world where calling names and babbling win the day. Please cut him some slack, as he probably has a bet on the winner that he doesn't want to lose. Did I get that right Walter? Jerry… Walter does not understand common sense or reality. He is off in a dream world where calling names and babbling win the day. Please cut him some slack, as he probably has a bet on the winner that he doesn’t want to lose.

Did I get that right Walter?

]]> By: danbrome http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/11/08/days-before-the-start-of-the-us-senate-recount-and-after-promising-to-be-non-partisan-ritchie-admits-there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-non-partisan-elected-secretary-of-state/comment-page-1/#comment-259842 danbrome Mon, 10 Nov 2008 04:17:59 +0000 http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/?p=7064#comment-259842 I think Walter should sieze the moment and declare Ole Smokescreen the winner. Forget democracy. Democrats should not be allowed to run anymore. Did I get that right Walter? Idiot. I think Walter should sieze the moment and declare Ole Smokescreen the winner.

Forget democracy. Democrats should not be allowed to run anymore.

Did I get that right Walter?

Idiot.

]]> By: Jerry http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/11/08/days-before-the-start-of-the-us-senate-recount-and-after-promising-to-be-non-partisan-ritchie-admits-there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-non-partisan-elected-secretary-of-state/comment-page-1/#comment-259779 Jerry Sun, 09 Nov 2008 19:57:03 +0000 http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/?p=7064#comment-259779 What a tempest in a teapot this post is. Ritchie is obviously correct--every elected secretary of state runs on a party ticket, so is a "partisan". Voting machines speed up the count, but they cannot always determine voter intent. Some voters make their intent clear even tho they have not marked the ballot the way the machine wants. Their votes usually don't get counted, but in a recount they will get counted. Why do you fear that? BTW, your state and mine have two of the best Secretaries of State in the US. Congratulations to us both. What a tempest in a teapot this post is. Ritchie is obviously correct–every elected secretary of state runs on a party ticket, so is a “partisan”.

Voting machines speed up the count, but they cannot always determine voter intent. Some voters make their intent clear even tho they have not marked the ballot the way the machine wants. Their votes usually don’t get counted, but in a recount they will get counted. Why do you fear that?

BTW, your state and mine have two of the best Secretaries of State in the US. Congratulations to us both.

]]> By: walter Hanson http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/11/08/days-before-the-start-of-the-us-senate-recount-and-after-promising-to-be-non-partisan-ritchie-admits-there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-non-partisan-elected-secretary-of-state/comment-page-1/#comment-259722 walter Hanson Sun, 09 Nov 2008 15:54:54 +0000 http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/?p=7064#comment-259722 Here's the point: He ran for the office claiming that he will be nonpartisan knowing that he was gong to be a partisan democrat. since he engaged in unehtical conduct to get the office that proves that he isn't qualfied to be secretary of state and should immediately resign. Walter Hanson Minneapolis, MN Here’s the point:

He ran for the office claiming that he will be nonpartisan knowing that he was gong to be a partisan democrat.

since he engaged in unehtical conduct to get the office that proves that he isn’t qualfied to be secretary of state and should immediately resign.

Walter Hanson
Minneapolis, MN

]]> By: loris http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/11/08/days-before-the-start-of-the-us-senate-recount-and-after-promising-to-be-non-partisan-ritchie-admits-there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-non-partisan-elected-secretary-of-state/comment-page-1/#comment-259715 loris Sun, 09 Nov 2008 15:12:56 +0000 http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/?p=7064#comment-259715 We can't trust this guy. He needs to step aside. We can’t trust this guy. He needs to step aside.

]]> By: hiram http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/11/08/days-before-the-start-of-the-us-senate-recount-and-after-promising-to-be-non-partisan-ritchie-admits-there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-non-partisan-elected-secretary-of-state/comment-page-1/#comment-259714 hiram Sun, 09 Nov 2008 15:12:32 +0000 http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/?p=7064#comment-259714 The rule is pretty simple. If the intention of the voter can be discerned from the ballot, it is counted accordingly. The job of vote counters is to find intent where it appear, not exclude votes because of technical issues that do not go to the issue of intent. The rule is pretty simple. If the intention of the voter can be discerned from the ballot, it is counted accordingly. The job of vote counters is to find intent where it appear, not exclude votes because of technical issues that do not go to the issue of intent.

]]> By: Average Joe http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/11/08/days-before-the-start-of-the-us-senate-recount-and-after-promising-to-be-non-partisan-ritchie-admits-there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-non-partisan-elected-secretary-of-state/comment-page-1/#comment-259692 Average Joe Sun, 09 Nov 2008 13:06:31 +0000 http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/?p=7064#comment-259692 <i>Any attempt by any politician to prevent the counting of validly cast votes is shameful, beyond shameful.</i> And the SOS is a POLITICIAN - and a partisan one at that. <i>The issue isn’t the partisanship or lack thereof, of the secretary of state.</i> He who controls the decisions on rule interpretations can certainly control the outcome of the vote. Any attempt by any politician to prevent the counting of validly cast votes is shameful, beyond shameful.

And the SOS is a POLITICIAN – and a partisan one at that.

The issue isn’t the partisanship or lack thereof, of the secretary of state.

He who controls the decisions on rule interpretations can certainly control the outcome of the vote.

]]> By: ranger http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/11/08/days-before-the-start-of-the-us-senate-recount-and-after-promising-to-be-non-partisan-ritchie-admits-there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-non-partisan-elected-secretary-of-state/comment-page-1/#comment-259690 ranger Sun, 09 Nov 2008 12:54:12 +0000 http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/?p=7064#comment-259690 You are all buying into a false premise. It does not matter if Ritchie lies or not. The premise should be that if you cannot mark your ballot so that it can be scanned and counted then it should not count. It is patently absurd that humans will now try to opine as to what people meant to do when they voted but could not get it accomplished. Do humans review SAT answer sheets to see if the testee screwed up? Forgot to erase? Put a circle around an answer? Did not sufficiently color in the oval? NO--Of Course Not. A minimum level of execution has to be presumed or the system fails. The recount should be limited to obvious errors of reporting only and that will be finished this week. The whole process of trying to imput a vote where one does not legally exist is unconstitutional itself. If it did not scan, it should not count, PERIOD. The Coleman legal team should be fighting the process, not every unqualified ballot as the DFL and GOP recount teams try to make up votes. You are all buying into a false premise. It does not matter if Ritchie lies or not. The premise should be that if you cannot mark your ballot so that it can be scanned and counted then it should not count. It is patently absurd that humans will now try to opine as to what people meant to do when they voted but could not get it accomplished.

Do humans review SAT answer sheets to see if the testee screwed up? Forgot to erase? Put a circle around an answer? Did not sufficiently color in the oval? NO–Of Course Not. A minimum level of execution has to be presumed or the system fails.

The recount should be limited to obvious errors of reporting only and that will be finished this week. The whole process of trying to imput a vote where one does not legally exist is unconstitutional itself.

If it did not scan, it should not count, PERIOD.

The Coleman legal team should be fighting the process, not every unqualified ballot as the DFL and GOP recount teams try to make up votes.

]]> By: hiram http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/11/08/days-before-the-start-of-the-us-senate-recount-and-after-promising-to-be-non-partisan-ritchie-admits-there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-non-partisan-elected-secretary-of-state/comment-page-1/#comment-259689 hiram Sun, 09 Nov 2008 12:48:30 +0000 http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/?p=7064#comment-259689 The issue isn't the partisanship or lack thereof, of the secretary of state. The issue is who has the most votes. The right to vote, contains within it, the right to have votes counted. Those rights are independent of any issues relative to the officials counting them. Any attempt by any politician to prevent the counting of validly cast votes is shameful, beyond shameful. The issue isn’t the partisanship or lack thereof, of the secretary of state. The issue is who has the most votes. The right to vote, contains within it, the right to have votes counted. Those rights are independent of any issues relative to the officials counting them.

Any attempt by any politician to prevent the counting of validly cast votes is shameful, beyond shameful.

]]> By: Average Joe http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/11/08/days-before-the-start-of-the-us-senate-recount-and-after-promising-to-be-non-partisan-ritchie-admits-there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-non-partisan-elected-secretary-of-state/comment-page-1/#comment-259686 Average Joe Sun, 09 Nov 2008 12:32:49 +0000 http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/?p=7064#comment-259686 <i>He lied repeatedly during the campaign and lied his way into office.</i> <i>You’re a liar. Madia is a liar. Franken is a liar. Ritchie is a liar.</i> It's what liberals do. They lie. They lie because they know if they told the truth, the real, unvarnished truth, about who they are, what they believe and what they'd do if they could tell the truth, no one would vote for them (save the nutjobs like Tommy Brown Shirt and Leroy). Senator Angry Al is a coming reality and we need to get used to it. Richie's working behind the scenes to steal this election, along with local nutjob True Believers who are stuffing ballots in their truck filled with Angry Al votes. All the while they have press conferences claiming Norm's trying to "suppress the vote". The level of dishonesty, the desperate CRIMINAL actions these people are willing to undertake, does not surprise me. Liberals have no conscience. He lied repeatedly during the campaign and lied his way into office.

You’re a liar. Madia is a liar. Franken is a liar. Ritchie is a liar.

It’s what liberals do. They lie.

They lie because they know if they told the truth, the real, unvarnished truth, about who they are, what they believe and what they’d do if they could tell the truth, no one would vote for them (save the nutjobs like Tommy Brown Shirt and Leroy).

Senator Angry Al is a coming reality and we need to get used to it. Richie’s working behind the scenes to steal this election, along with local nutjob True Believers who are stuffing ballots in their truck filled with Angry Al votes.

All the while they have press conferences claiming Norm’s trying to “suppress the vote”.

The level of dishonesty, the desperate CRIMINAL actions these people are willing to undertake, does not surprise me. Liberals have no conscience.

]]> By: chappaquiddick http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/11/08/days-before-the-start-of-the-us-senate-recount-and-after-promising-to-be-non-partisan-ritchie-admits-there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-non-partisan-elected-secretary-of-state/comment-page-1/#comment-259659 chappaquiddick Sun, 09 Nov 2008 07:53:55 +0000 http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/?p=7064#comment-259659 Danbrome You're a liar. Madia is a liar. Franken is a liar. Ritchie is a liar. Danbrome

You’re a liar. Madia is a liar. Franken is a liar. Ritchie is a liar.

]]> By: danbrome http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/11/08/days-before-the-start-of-the-us-senate-recount-and-after-promising-to-be-non-partisan-ritchie-admits-there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-non-partisan-elected-secretary-of-state/comment-page-1/#comment-259650 danbrome Sun, 09 Nov 2008 06:42:39 +0000 http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/?p=7064#comment-259650 Michael: Your charges that DFLers are all liars is getting a bit old. Didn't you get that out of your system with Ashwin Madia? How about Al Franken? It must be so rewarding to be paid to call others liars. Do you by chance think Sen. Michel or Ron Carey are liars too? Think before you answer. I beg of you, please don't reply by calling ME a liar. Michael:

Your charges that DFLers are all liars is getting a bit old. Didn’t you get that out of your system with Ashwin Madia? How about Al Franken?

It must be so rewarding to be paid to call others liars.

Do you by chance think Sen. Michel or Ron Carey are liars too? Think before you answer.

I beg of you, please don’t reply by calling ME a liar.

]]> By: John F Not Kerry http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/11/08/days-before-the-start-of-the-us-senate-recount-and-after-promising-to-be-non-partisan-ritchie-admits-there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-non-partisan-elected-secretary-of-state/comment-page-1/#comment-259642 John F Not Kerry Sun, 09 Nov 2008 05:19:42 +0000 http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/?p=7064#comment-259642 I remember hearing Mary Kiffmeyer speak at an event I attended, and she seemed like the lady that would make sure the potluck went off without a hitch. Somehow the Democrats convinced enough Minnesotans that we needed a Demcrat to hold that office. Why did he even run with a party then? I remember hearing Mary Kiffmeyer speak at an event I attended, and she seemed like the lady that would make sure the potluck went off without a hitch. Somehow the Democrats convinced enough Minnesotans that we needed a Demcrat to hold that office. Why did he even run with a party then?

]]> By: Chestnut http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/11/08/days-before-the-start-of-the-us-senate-recount-and-after-promising-to-be-non-partisan-ritchie-admits-there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-non-partisan-elected-secretary-of-state/comment-page-1/#comment-259639 Chestnut Sun, 09 Nov 2008 04:45:10 +0000 http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/?p=7064#comment-259639 "he operates in a non-partisan matter and non-partisanship is a guiding principle" If there is no such thing as a non-partisan S.O.S., then what Aaron said is impossible. “he operates in a non-partisan matter and non-partisanship is a guiding principle”

If there is no such thing as a non-partisan S.O.S., then what Aaron said is impossible.

]]> By: Michael B. Brodkorb http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/11/08/days-before-the-start-of-the-us-senate-recount-and-after-promising-to-be-non-partisan-ritchie-admits-there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-non-partisan-elected-secretary-of-state/comment-page-1/#comment-259635 Michael B. Brodkorb Sun, 09 Nov 2008 04:33:56 +0000 http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/?p=7064#comment-259635 He lied repeatedly during the campaign and lied his way into office. Remember, Secretary of State Ritchie was caught using his official office to fund his political campaign - and lied about it was asked by reporters and legislators. He lied repeatedly during the campaign and lied his way into office. Remember, Secretary of State Ritchie was caught using his official office to fund his political campaign – and lied about it was asked by reporters and legislators.

]]> By: Billy http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/11/08/days-before-the-start-of-the-us-senate-recount-and-after-promising-to-be-non-partisan-ritchie-admits-there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-non-partisan-elected-secretary-of-state/comment-page-1/#comment-259633 Billy Sun, 09 Nov 2008 04:30:57 +0000 http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/?p=7064#comment-259633 Hmmm, a DFL Secretary of State promises to handle the vote in a non-partisan way, and nothing yet suggests he has done otherwise. If you deem it newsworthy that a DFL Secretary of State is a DFL Secretary of State, you probably should just pull the plug now...especially since your horse has been thoroughly embarrassed and EXPOSED by a comedian...good stuff. Hmmm, a DFL Secretary of State promises to handle the vote in a non-partisan way, and nothing yet suggests he has done otherwise.

If you deem it newsworthy that a DFL Secretary of State is a DFL Secretary of State, you probably should just pull the plug now…especially since your horse has been thoroughly embarrassed and EXPOSED by a comedian…good stuff.

]]> By: Margaret http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/11/08/days-before-the-start-of-the-us-senate-recount-and-after-promising-to-be-non-partisan-ritchie-admits-there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-non-partisan-elected-secretary-of-state/comment-page-1/#comment-259632 Margaret Sun, 09 Nov 2008 04:25:48 +0000 http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/?p=7064#comment-259632 First honest thing he's said so far... First honest thing he’s said so far…

]]> By: Aaron http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/2008/11/08/days-before-the-start-of-the-us-senate-recount-and-after-promising-to-be-non-partisan-ritchie-admits-there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-non-partisan-elected-secretary-of-state/comment-page-1/#comment-259629 Aaron Sun, 09 Nov 2008 04:21:06 +0000 http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/?p=7064#comment-259629 Um, duh. What he said is a fact, and he operates in a non-partisan matter and non-partisanship is a guiding principle and he is protecting our votes by restoring trust and nonpartisanship to the office. What you and your friends are doing is trying to discredit the state and its process. It is disgusting, Michael. Why don't you want every legal ballot counted like Mark Ritchie and the voters want? Um, duh. What he said is a fact, and he operates in a non-partisan matter and non-partisanship is a guiding principle and he is protecting our votes by restoring trust and nonpartisanship to the office.

What you and your friends are doing is trying to discredit the state and its process. It is disgusting, Michael.

Why don’t you want every legal ballot counted like Mark Ritchie and the voters want?

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