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U.S. SENATE RECOUNT DATA POSTED – 15.49 % COMPLETED
By Michael B. Brodkorb | November 19, 2008
Secretary of State Mark Ritchie’s office is posting unofficial data on the status of the U.S. Senate Recount. 15.49 percent of ballots have been counted. Click here to view the complete results, which will be updated after 8:00 p.m. on each day of the recount.
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November 19th, 2008 at 8:33 PM
I find it curious that your headline wasn’t something along the lines of this:
Coleman gains -43 votes based on recount results of 15.49% of ballots.
4-Nov Recount Change
Norm 195708 195638 -70
Al 180950 180923 -27
Franken Net Gain: 43
I’d also like to point out that Franken gained these 43 votes from a demographic bloc that was overly supportive of Coleman, relative to the total state result.
November 19th, 2008 at 9:07 PM
Next time some dishonest sack of shit from the Franken campaign talks about “the importance of counting all the ballots” or “determining voter intent,” consider the fact that the following is a ballot that Franken wants thrown out:
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/assets_c/2008/11/plymouth17-thumb-350×164.jpg
Apparently, that vote doesn’t demonstrate clear intent to vote for Coleman.
Meanwhile, the dishonest sacks of shit at the Franken campaign tried to argue that an undervote with a vote for Obama was a vote for Franken.
Franken is a dishonest sack of shit that should be forcibly removed from the State of Minnesota, permanently.
November 19th, 2008 at 9:40 PM
@Chestnut:
I want you to find me a direct quote or reference in which the Franken campaign overtly says that any person who voted for Obama and undervoted the Senate should automatically be marked in Frankens’ column.
The arguement is that there WILL be undervotes, machines make mistakes. There are more residual votes from precincts that heavily voted for Obama. Go look at the SOS website if you don’t believe me, open up excel and make a table.
If there are more undervotes from voters who voted for Obama, who do you think they likely voted for in the Senate, if they voted at all. If they didn’t vote, they didn’t vote. But if they did, and the machine didn’t count it for whatever reason, that vote is likely either for Franken or Barkley.
Given that there are residual votes from people who voted for Obama, the logical conclusion implies that after the machine counts are rechecked, Franken will likely gain votes from the inclusion of these residual votes.
Dartmouth College and MIT did research on this issue. I suggest you educate yourself.
Google:
“site:dartmouth.edu residual votes pdf”
“site:mit.edu minnesota senate”
November 19th, 2008 at 10:01 PM
I bet they want the one featured on MPR’s website to count. It has a little scribble about an inch and ah alf to the left of Franken’s circle.
November 19th, 2008 at 10:20 PM
“If there are more undervotes from voters who voted for Obama, who do you think they likely voted for in the Senate, if they voted at all.”
Who knows. There’s a pretty good chance they did not vote for Franken, because Franken trailed Obama by 15 percentage points.
Your assumption that an Obama vote is even a likely Franken vote is so flawed as to be fucking stupid.
November 19th, 2008 at 10:21 PM
“But if they did, and the machine didn’t count it for whatever reason, that vote is likely either for Franken or Barkley.”
Bullshit. Coleman drew about 20 percent support from Democrats. There’s no math that justifies your silly as shit assumption.
November 19th, 2008 at 10:22 PM
Geez your fucking stupid whatever.
Educate yourself, shit for brains.
November 19th, 2008 at 10:37 PM
We all need to cut Chestnut a little slack. He is already having nightmares about the Franken re-election campaign of 2014, and this has caused him to become unhinged. Hopefully, Norm will make a gracious concession to help Chestnut cope with the 503 vote defeat.
November 19th, 2008 at 10:45 PM
whatev…. most of the franken gains were from DFL precints…. alot of st paul..and st louis county…that is to be expected
November 19th, 2008 at 10:47 PM
danbrome, did you give Madia a good riming again this evening?
November 19th, 2008 at 10:49 PM
“Bullshit. Coleman drew about 20 percent support from Democrats. There’s no math that justifies your silly as shit assumption.”
You’re telling me that any given vote from an Obama supporter has a 20% chance of also voting for Norm Coleman. Ok fair enough. Then by that logic any given Obama vote has an (80-Barkley)% of going for Franken.
If machine errors do not favor one candidate or another the distribution of undervotes will be directly proportional to the complete populations’ vote.
The distribution of undervotes occurs in population centers where Obama received a larger percentage than did Coleman. Thus for any given Obama vote that registered, by a machine, an undervote for the Senate, Franken has the aforementioned (80-Barkley)% of winning that vote. Unless Barkley won the Obama vote by more than 60% in these precincts with rich residual votes, Franken has a greater likelihood of receiving any given, randomly occurring undervote on a ballot that was cast for Obama.
In response to the “Educate yourself, shit for brains.” I have educated myself. I read two papers, totaling 40 pages from two of the best academic institutions on the planet. What have you done to educate yourself?
November 19th, 2008 at 10:50 PM
Franken by 503. You heard it here first.
November 19th, 2008 at 10:52 PM
Chestnut read BOTH Sean Hannity’s and Karl Rove’s books, 8 times each.
And he doesn’t even know how to spell rimming.
Incredible!
November 19th, 2008 at 10:53 PM
Ashwin Madia is solid as a rock, and committed to serving the country he loves.
November 19th, 2008 at 11:52 PM
Madia: He suck and swallows
danbrome: Liberace Gay.
November 20th, 2008 at 12:19 AM
Snoop
Nothing like bashing homosexuals to add legitimacy to Michael’s blog.
November 20th, 2008 at 7:27 AM
If, as Chestnut says, Norm took 20 percent from the democrats, would it be fair to assume that Al took 20 percent from the republicans to force this race to, for all intents and purposes, tie?
November 20th, 2008 at 9:19 AM
snoopdog… nothing like some good old fashioned bigotry to make you point.
Your ignorance is astonishing!
November 20th, 2008 at 10:41 AM
As I looked at the recount results, it appears that in the vast majority of the precincts, the machine counts and the recounts matched exactly, and the votes lost for one candidate usually match exactly the number of challenges that candidate had….meaning that to my eye, the machines did not make any mistakes, and since they cannot be biased or have an agenda, or for that matter blink at the wrong time or get tired, I trust the machines. It’s the humans that you can’t trust. In Ramsey county there were several precincts that seemed to just take votes away from candidates without challenges, they just came off the totals and moved into the “other” column. Human error will vastly exceed machine error.