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GUBERNATORIAL UNALLOTMENT POLITICS
By Ryan Flynn | June 17, 2009
It is no big surprise that DFL’ers have been crying foul now for 24 hours regarding the Governors budget balancing. What is amazing that those DFL’ers in the legislature act as if this is a big shock, after all, they had five months to do something about the budget in the State Legislature.
Surprisingly the biggest critic from the legislature yesterday was Sen. Tarryl Clark. Clark has now confirmed that she is considering a bid for Governor, the question remains if there are already too many big names taking up the oxygen in that race. With all of the other DFL’ers advocating higher taxes across the board what distinguishes Clark?
Mayors Chris Coleman and R.T. Rybak came out swinging yesterday complaining from the hilltops regarding the Governor’s unallotments and what effect they could have on their city. Could is clearly the operative word as these two Mayors could clearly help out their cities by cutting out the waste and junk. There is not nearly enough room here to cover it all but think leopard print bus and decorative drinking fountains respectively to begin with.
Whoever emerges as the DFL candidate can rest assured that their hypocrisy will be front and center in the campaign.
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June 17th, 2009 at 5:13 PM
If I heard Chris Coleman complain about LGA cuts, I’d laugh in his face. This clown’s city is paying for birth control for pigeons. I know how to solve the pigeon problem and it doesn’t cost much and doesn’t involve birth control.
June 17th, 2009 at 9:49 PM
…And whatever republican emerges will be tainted by the broad brush of Pawlenty’s irrisponsible decisions.
June 18th, 2009 at 1:17 AM
Mr.,
So you’re equating tightening the belt to pissing money away on pigeon birth control? Your shamelessness knows no bounds.
June 18th, 2009 at 1:26 AM
Forgive Leroy Jenkins. His psychopathic narcissism clouds his perception of reality.
June 18th, 2009 at 5:00 AM
Chris-
How would you propose dealing with the city’s pigeon problem?
If you were Tim Pawlenty, you would find a way to shift the problem onto your successor.
If you were Marty Seifert, you would get tough on pirates.
If you were Dave Senjem, you wouldn’t have the power to do anything.
But with pigeons becoming a real risk to public health and saftey, what would you do as mayor to adress the issue?
June 18th, 2009 at 7:09 AM
“Whoever emerges as the DFL candidate can rest assured that their hypocrisy will be front and center in the campaign.”
I think when people try to make hypocrisy the center of their campaigns rather than policy, it’s because they know their policy positions are weak, and they trying to go with their strengths.
June 18th, 2009 at 7:54 AM
Mr. Leroy Jenkins has been listening to Boone and Erickson again.
Not even close to being creative or funny.
Swing and a miss, for strike one.
June 18th, 2009 at 8:04 AM
Leroy, you jackass, how about some of that Obama pork-u-lus goes to Planned Pigeon Parenthood? Of course it would be the pigeon’s choice whether or not to have an abortion.
Pigeon are nothing more than rats with wings, they should be poisoned like rats – which can be done at the fraction of the price of birth control.
Of course, pigeon poisons are not PETA approved. Chris Coleman is going to need money from the PETA crowd, he has no problem in spending tax dollars to keep these potential supporter happy.
June 18th, 2009 at 8:08 AM
Chile:
No. You SHOOT the flying rats!
Pigeon birth control. Too funny. And…a sad indictment of the leadership in the City of Saint Paul.
What’s next? Grief counselors for the female pigeons who are now sterile?
June 18th, 2009 at 8:13 AM
Maybe the city should offer benefits to the same-sex partners of pigeons…
June 18th, 2009 at 8:50 AM
Ryan, you say “after all, they (the legislature)had five months to do something about the budget in the State Legislature.”
And I would argue that Pawlenty also had five months to COMPROMISE. He used that word a lot, but to him it means he get’s everything he wants. That is not compromise. I did not see either party (leg. and governor) work together on this. Do not try to put the blaim solely on the legistlaure. Pawlenty’s pig-headed stubborness plays into this too.
June 18th, 2009 at 8:52 AM
Also, Ryan, please stop referring to debunked myths as fact. The Como Zoo shuttle was paid for by a federal grant administered by the Met Council. That had nothing to do with St. Paul budget dollars. So if you want to poke fun at that bus, you have to make fun of Pawlenty. Who appoints the Met Council?
June 18th, 2009 at 9:10 AM
AC, thanks for pointing out that St. Paul Democrats took 1.6 million in pork-u-lus funds to provide a “free” service.
And thanks for ingoring that this “free” service will drain $150,000 per year from the St. Paul budget.
June 18th, 2009 at 9:36 AM
D., I love shooting pigeons! BB guns take a few shots. Pellet guns take a shot or two. A 22 caliber with bird shot works good too, but not as much sport. For the more pragmatic pigeon hater – any shot gun will do.
When the above options are not available, there is always the turbo-nerf football. I may well hold the world’s record in pigeon kills in that category.
June 18th, 2009 at 10:15 AM
Leroy,
Chile is right. You can eradicate the pigeons with poison or pellet guns. That’s a helluva lot cheaper than birth control and it actually solves the pigeon problem.
AC,
Pawlenty did try to compromise with the legislature. He gave them an opportunity to preserve spending through bonding. Before you bitch about Pawlenty running up the state’s credit card please take notice that the legislature did pass a bonding bill this year to the tune of $367 million and this year isn’t even a bonding year. That’s next year’s business at the legislature.
The legislature in an effort to play partisan politics was more willing to sacrifice spending in an effort to try to make Pawlenty look bad than they were to actually compromise and save programs that they wanted.
June 18th, 2009 at 10:25 AM
So, the people who will be shooting these pigeons, they will volunteer their services while indemnifying the city from the legal liability that comes with discharging a .22 or a shotgun in close proximity to dense urban populations?
And the poison, it won’t in any way endanger people or cause a rotting mass of dead pigeons that will create a much larger problem, will it?
June 18th, 2009 at 10:55 AM
So Leroy, you jackass, you now expect volunteers to provide liablity insurance?
Pellet guns will work.
“And the poison, it won’t in any way endanger people or cause a rotting mass of dead pigeons that will create a much larger problem, will it?”
Nope.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:01 AM
Well, short of volunteers providing their own liability insurance, I don’t see how the prospect of the city hiring shooters and paying the insurance will be any more cost effective than the current operation.
And all it will take is for one lawyer’s kid to pick a poisoned pigeon up off the sidewalk for you to see that the poison option is not really viable either.
But thanks for playing.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:17 AM
Here’s an idea:
We collect the pigeons – of course we’ll provide water from the new driking fountains in Minneapolis, and EBT cards for those pigeons who don’t care to work – we use half-empty buses to transport the birds for a whole new life in rafters of the Schubert Theatre.
Problem Solved!!
June 18th, 2009 at 11:27 AM
Scene: You live in St. Paul. A poisoned pigeon drops dead on your lawn.
Solution in LeWhore’s Liberal DFL Nanny State: Create a department, comprised of 5 pick up trucks ($20k), 5 employees plus a supervisor ($80k each in salary and benes = $480k), plus costs of disposing waste. Program costs: $100k+ set up, plus annual layout of around $500k. As well as a big “THANKS!” from the Obamessiah, as he can claim “job creation”.
Solution in D’s real-world: I grab a shovel and put it in my trash can. Cost: zero.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:29 AM
Leroy, a pigeon shits more than 100 times it’s own weight each year.
Why is it that given a set of options, liberals alway choose the most expensive one?
Leroy you would have no problem with that lawyer’s kid getting raped by a cho-mo he meets online, and yet you worry about a dead bird.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:30 AM
Sorry, that should have been Leroy, you jackass.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:31 AM
Mr.,
Of course, you would be out there shooting the pigeons over the noon hour when there are thousands of people on the streets of St. Paul. Ever been there at 6 am on a Saturday? And you call the GOP the party of NO. LMFAO!
June 18th, 2009 at 11:31 AM
Congrats, LeWhore. You are emblematic of liberal Nanny-state America. Courts, packed with liberals, actually allow idiotic suits like poison pigeons to see the light of day.
Of course, you Democrat Statists will NEVER allow tort reform…as you are wholy-owned tools of the ACLU and the Big Lawyer lobby.
Everybody’s a victim…the motto of the DFL.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:47 AM
Newton, one suggestion. We use Chris Coleman’s leapard pring buses to transport the pigeons as a finishing touch to the Schubert.
What a better way to salute the cast and crew of an onstage production of “Rage”, starring danbrome.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:07 PM
I’m a star?
Shucks guys.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:16 PM
Please wear that star in the center of your upper chest. It gives me a better target for my scope.
June 18th, 2009 at 12:29 PM
Liberal danbrome: Twinkle the red star!
June 18th, 2009 at 2:49 PM
You can’t shoot pigeons because PETA will have a fit! You saw how they reacted when Obama swatted a fly!
June 18th, 2009 at 3:16 PM
How typical of the republicans.
Lots of personal attacks and no viable options for dealing with the actual problem at hand.
June 18th, 2009 at 3:23 PM
How typical of democrats.
Conjur up a comical issue and devise a Big Government solution that drains the taxpayer’s wallets and diverts money from real needs to phantom, silly non-problem problems.
June 18th, 2009 at 3:40 PM
Mr.,
I never called names and I presented a very viable option for getting rid of the pigeons. Shoot them at 6 am on a Saturday or Sunday morning when nobody is in downtown. You can even block off the streets while you work through the program. But $20,000 for birth control? What a joke. How long you gonna give them birth control?? Till they hit menopause? LMFAO
June 18th, 2009 at 8:52 PM
Do windows become bulletproof and sleep indisturbable at 6 a.m.?
Just curious.
June 18th, 2009 at 8:59 PM
96% of last year’s budget won’t make the sky cave it. Even HHS is still getting a 10% bump as is.
And it’s a much better alternative to cut as opposed to squeezing more out of families and businesses who are struggling just so the DFL can continue to pour money past the rate of inflation into the same government programs who are the money suck who got us here in the first place.
The mayors of St. Paul and Minneapolis are acting more like crack fiends looking for a fix than leaders looking for and coming up with solutions. They aren’t accountable for that though because zombies vote DFL in each city no matter what. So they spend money on green roofs and pigeon sex ed and cut police and fire. The zombies don’t notice the absurdity of it all. Infact, their hearts start bleeding like spoiled little brat kids who got grounded.
June 18th, 2009 at 9:44 PM
So, is it correct to read from this that not only have republicans rejected the idea of fiscal constraint, now they also reject the idea of local control?
What happened to the republican party that would give you what it gave you, and then expect you to make the most of it?
And you all talk about socialism with such fervor, without recognizing that having the state dictate how cities spend each and every dollar is much more socialist than bailouts to struggling industry.
June 18th, 2009 at 9:52 PM
Unallotment politics? What about Brod using the program for 7 years through many deficit years and now disengenuously calling for other candidates not to use it? Why the sudden dose of “principles and priorities” when it comes to this? Maybe because you are too unorganized to compete with Bakk, Thissen and others already geared up? DFLers will ignore you, Ms. Brod. No one cares about this! By the way, when your caucus meets next week, why don’t you “urge” the new leader replacing Seifert to halt all requests for funds using this program for your House Republicans Candidate Fund Committee from now until July 1st? Would you like to hamstring your fellow House Republicans just to step on their faces to the top with your grandstanding to be Governor?
June 18th, 2009 at 11:10 PM
College Dem, first of all, you should name the topic before you start your argument. Usually this is done in the topic sentence which usually is the first one. Makes it easier to read. What college do you go to? You learn this even in inner city public high school. At least they used to teach it.
People on both sides use and have used the PCR. Republicans have tried to kill it for years and redirect the funds to more worthwhile uses, not that you care about that right now right? If you paid attention you were probably all for the program right? Just like you don’t care if Democrats intend to use it before it’s dead. Why don’t you ask Marge and Larry to suspend its use? The DFL doesn’t even need it with all the money they pull in from unions and other Soros type special interest groups. Yet you are surprisingly concerned about Republicans using it between now and July 1st… And you are concerned about Laura Brod using it in the past. Then you criticize when she announces that since the thing is going to be dead that she won’t try to take advantage now. I would think you’d agree with that for all people of all parties, not just Republicans and not just Rep. Brod. But maybe common sense has gotten the better of me.
You have an interesting world view College Dem. Can’t wait until you get in the real world and learn some real lessons about “principles and priorities”. I’ll just let this go as “you don’t know any better”. Which is especially true when you use Bakk and Thissen as threats… AHAHAHAHA.
June 18th, 2009 at 11:18 PM
LeRoy, you are hardly worth a real response anymore. I won’t read back to try to find where anybody said the State should dictate the spending of the local units of Government. Yes, by not giving them LGA, they have less to spend. But that isn’t dictating dollar for dollar what they spend on. LGA was supposed to take the place of property tax increases. Well, local units just use LGA as “extra” money. Kept raising property taxes and then blame it on the State.
They were elected, they should be able to put on the big boy pants and make some decisions on what they should and should not or probably don’t have to spend on. Cops yes. Million dollar roofs for the Target Center and 100K water fountains no. Shouldn’t be that hard of a choice.
June 19th, 2009 at 12:32 AM
Mr.,
For starters, pellet guns don’t make noise. Even if they did make noise, it would pale by comparison to the buses, garbage trucks and other “city” noise. Second, the people who would shoot the pigeons wouldn’t aim at windows. You can get them on top of roofs and in other “pellet safe” areas.
It’s amazing watching you twist yourself into pretzels to justify the asinine wasteful spending on birth control for pigeons.
June 19th, 2009 at 12:38 AM
P.S. Mr.,
Just so you know, pigeons have been eradicated in other cities using guns and poison. I am not aware of any lawsuits involving the removal of pigeons. But you may be saying that city workers in St. Paul are too incompetent to do the job correctly. I’m not sure. Here are just a couple of examples of how other cities have eradicated their pigeon populations not using birth control.
http://pigeonpapers.blogspot.com/2005/06/wyoming-plans-to-poison-kill-eradicate.html
http://www.santamariatimes.com/articles/2007/07/19/news/centralcoast/news04.txt
June 19th, 2009 at 2:16 AM
Sometimes, you make it far too easy.
Two articles about how serious the pigeon problem can be, and then a description of how two small towns will be TRAPPING pigeons, bringing them to the outskirts of town and poisioning them. I fail to see how that would be a better use of city resources than a big birdfeeder full of birth control laced food. A quick google search will show you that major metro areas like LA and New York have been fighting pigeons with the “birth control” method for years.
At first, this was simply rhetorical practice on an issue I didn’t really care about. Now I am glad St. Paul is acting in such a responsible manner.
June 19th, 2009 at 9:06 AM
Mr.,
Major urban areas, which St. Paul is not, also have operating deficits of hundreds of millions of dollars a year for their transit systems. New York City and LA are going broke, just like St. Paul. And that is the only thing St. Paul has in common with New York City and LA.
I really hate to take this debate down to your level. But I hope you live in St. Paul, Mr., and I hope they tax the living shit out of you.
June 19th, 2009 at 10:11 AM
Leroy, you jackass, once again you loose the argument and now shift the topic to “local control.”
When Chris Coleman chooses to waste money on expanding his pro-abortion ideology to the animal kingdom – he is exercising local control. Coleman exercise “local control”, wasted money, and now has his hand out to the state.
June 19th, 2009 at 10:23 AM
AC, f*ck PETA. The purpose of shooting pigeons is to kill them. If that process pisses off PETA, it’s icing on the cake.
June 19th, 2009 at 10:27 AM
Chile raises an issue that Mr. forgets. Giving pigeons birth control does nothing to get rid of the pigeons (and therefore the problem). Killing them gets rid of the problem of disease, parasites and feces.
June 19th, 2009 at 5:15 PM
Who can make the case for how it is more cost effective to have city employees or contract employees rounding up pigeons and taking them out into the country to kill them? A pigeon’s life span in three to four years. If you feed them birth control for three to four years, the problem is eliminated very cost effectively.
The republican outrage can’t really be about the cost, so what is it? Are you really mad that a democrat is forcing pigeons to have abortions?
June 20th, 2009 at 3:05 AM
They bring in sharp shooters in Parks like Mounds Park to thin out the deer population. They don’t run around and try to give them sex ed…
June 20th, 2009 at 9:58 AM
Mr.,
In other words, you want to spend $80,000 to feed the pigeons birth control over four years and still put up with the pigeon shit, parasites and diseases that pigeons carry instead of killing them now and solving the problem. I can guarantee that you could hire an exterminator to come in and kill the piegons for less than that.
June 21st, 2009 at 12:42 AM
I do.
June 21st, 2009 at 1:43 AM
Then pay for it yourself with your own property taxes.
June 21st, 2009 at 7:52 AM
I will be.
July 20th, 2009 at 8:18 AM
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