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FRANKEN DEEPLY UNPOPULAR NATIONALLY
By Ryan Flynn | July 2, 2009
“Senator-elect Al Franken won’t start his life in the nation’s most deliberative body with the love of the nation, according to a new poll.
The Rasmussen poll of voters across the United States found that 44 percent of those surveyed had an unfavorable view of Minnesota’s newest Senator and 34 percent had a favorable view of him. Twenty-two percent said they didn’t have a view of him.” Source: Pioneer Press, July 2, 2009.
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July 2nd, 2009 at 3:15 PM
Why in the world should we care what people outside of Minnesota think about our choice of elected officers? What could possibly be of less relevance or less significance?
July 2nd, 2009 at 3:18 PM
Hiram – I don’t know about you, but I prefer not to be ridiculed when venturing outside of the Land of 10,000 Lakes. Seriously, this is more embarrasing and sad than Jesse Ventura.
July 2nd, 2009 at 3:39 PM
These numbers everyone represent the honeymoon period. The clock is ticking….. when will big Al throw a tantrum? Remember his trade is in large part attracting attention (using prankish childlike degrading hedonistic humor) and shocking people, making them laugh. Like Ventura this attribute won’t go away. He has no experience at all that has anything to do with a Senate career. The man will lose and lose bad each week, month, and year. The Dems will find an easy out at some point in order to replace him. If not this the Democrats will endure a enough hits to their brand to induce concussion. The end is the begginning of a long drawn out down fall. We though this election took a long time to end its course? No Al’s down fall will make th eelection look as if it only took one month to resolve. Maybe three or four years.
July 2nd, 2009 at 3:46 PM
Hiram..
Senator-Elect Franken received the most votes, votes cast by Minnesota citzens. Although the race was very close, our system enables the people to elect the candidates of their choice.
I’m thankful to live in a country where we can vote and elect our representatives.
I am proud to live in this great state, and place little importance on what citizens from other states might think of our decisions.
Remember, New Yorkers think that anybody who lives west of the Hudson must be a farmer anyway.
July 2nd, 2009 at 3:57 PM
Hiram, Franken cares.
He’s not even in the Senate yet, and already 44 percent of the country dissapprove of him. It goes to show that people haven’t for about his taxcheating, porn writing, and hate-speech.
July 2nd, 2009 at 4:26 PM
You know, there was a time when Minnesotans wouldn’t care what folks from the rest of the country thought. We’d do what we thought was right, and that would be it.
Good to know Mini-Mike and Mini-Mini-Mike value the opinion of others more than they value the opinion of Minnesotans.
July 2nd, 2009 at 4:27 PM
“I don’t know about you, but I prefer not to be ridiculed when venturing outside of the Land of 10,000 Lakes. Seriously, this is more embarrasing and sad than Jesse Ventura.”
I am sort of a combative person with a low opinion generally, of the technique of ridicule as used in politics. Let’s just say that when I am outside of Minnesota and anyone tried to ridicule me about either Ventura, or Franken, the response would be withering.
July 2nd, 2009 at 4:31 PM
Well, I guess he won’t be running for President soon.
The more important poll is the one officiated from election day. Minnesotans approved of him and he will represent us well.
Al is doing great seeing that he’s entering a congress with a 54% disapproval rating (most of that is due to unpopularity of the Republicans).
Franken will help BOOST confidence in Congress with those numbers.
Thanks for the info.
July 2nd, 2009 at 4:32 PM
“He’s not even in the Senate yet, and already 44 percent of the country disapprove of him.”
Well, I disapprove of 44 percent of the country. I am sure that keeps them awake at night.
The choice of electing Minnesota officials belongs to Minnesotans. The Glenn Becks, the Keith Olbermann’s, the John Cornyn’s, the Harry Reids of the world should have the common decency to get their noses out of our affairs. It’s our job to decide these issues, and it’s their job to stand back and look upon Minnesota with awe and wonder.
July 2nd, 2009 at 4:33 PM
So Marc suddenly cares what people outside of Minnesota thinks?
Try leaving the country to ANY place in the last six years. Thank you George Bush.
July 2nd, 2009 at 4:34 PM
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/congressional_job_approval-903.html
July 2nd, 2009 at 4:59 PM
Hiram, I don’t recall you harping when Angry Al was cashing those big campaign checks from New York and Hollywood.
Once Al Franken gets his committee assignment – he’ll have a voice on committees where most states have no representation. The opinions of people from across the United States is 100% relevant.
July 2nd, 2009 at 5:07 PM
“I don’t recall you harping when Angry Al was cashing those big campaign checks from New York and Hollywood.”
But I didn’t complain about Norm’s out of state money either. But I have harped quite a bit about out of state politicians involving themselves in Minnesota politics, and I think I have done so on a nonpartisan basis. I thought both Reid and Cornyn should have stayed out of it. I was very offended by Reid’s statements critical of our Governor after Tuesday’s decision. I will also say that I have at all times been impressed with Gov. Pawlenty’s handling of senate recount issues. It seems to me that at all times he has struck exactly the right balance between his two roles, as leader of Minnesota Republicans, and as a constitutional officer.
“The opinions of people from across the United States is 100% relevant.”
Al like Norm was elected to the senate by Minnesotans. Al, like Norm, should work on behalf of Minnesotans in ways that are consistent with our national interests.
July 2nd, 2009 at 5:45 PM
Unfortunately for you asshats, the rest of the country doesn’t elect Minnesota’s senators. Minnesotans do. And they elected AL FRANKEN as our U.S. Senator for the next six years. Suck on it, babies!!!
July 2nd, 2009 at 5:55 PM
“So Marc suddenly cares what people outside of Minnesota thinks?
Try leaving the country to ANY place in the last six years. Thank you George Bush.”
DJZ, you might want to consider maybe people don’t like you because you are you.
July 2nd, 2009 at 6:46 PM
Does anyone else find it interesting that all of these people who were so concerned about what the rest of the world thought when Bush was President are now saying other citizens of this country can stick it in their ear about Franken?
MinnyDem, “Suck on it, babies”? Far be if for me to interfer with you ability to make a living doing just that behind the Skyway Lounge.
July 2nd, 2009 at 7:10 PM
How the hell is this different than any other senator or congressman? The public hates Congress and anyone in it.
July 2nd, 2009 at 7:22 PM
Unfortunately for you asshats
Another Asterick Al disciple heard from. Seems like they’re all potty-mouths, too.
July 2nd, 2009 at 7:55 PM
“chile Says:
July 2nd, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Hiram, I don’t recall you harping when Angry Al was cashing those big campaign checks from New York and Hollywood.”
I was pissed that the same people who vote for Absent Arnold and Rotten Rudy would support Franken.
Then I realized that Norm’s donors are crooks and tax cheats.
July 2nd, 2009 at 8:13 PM
DJZ,
Norm had Democrats donating to him? I had no idea.
July 2nd, 2009 at 8:14 PM
Forgot to ask, which member of the Obama administration donated to Norms campaign. It is difficult to keep track of all those tax cheats and crooks.
July 2nd, 2009 at 8:45 PM
Al Franken* donated to Norm?
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:08 PM
Don’t use the word cheat in the same thread as the names Norm and Rudy. Everything else is just white noise.
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:56 PM
DJZ,
You think you’re really cute, don’t you? Congress’ approval rating is low because of Republicans??? Last time I saw, Nancy Pelosi had lower poll ratings than Dick Cheney and Harry Reid is on a list of vulnerable Democrats. And a recent Gallup poll showed that the highest percentage of Americans think the Democrat party is too liberal since before the 1994 elections. Nice try though.
July 3rd, 2009 at 12:22 AM
P.S. DJZ,
If the Obama Administration is so popular, why is it that Joe Biden can’t even draw a crowd of more than 100 people in Erie, PA? Hell, when Cheney came to the Minneapolis Convention Center in 2004, there were around 1500 people in attendance.
From the Pittsburgh Tribune:
Biden fails to draw crowd in Erie
Posted July 1, 2009 11 :29 AM
Wattsburg, Pa. — Vice President Joe Biden visited a small town on the outskirts of Erie today to talk to rural folks about federal stimulus money that can be used to expand broadband access to the Internet for rural areas that typically have poor connections.
Apparently stimulus money and broadband are not all that interesting to the local folk here: Only around 100 or so people have showed up so far to hear Biden talk at noon at Seneca High School off Route 8 in Wattsburg.
The room looked so sparse that about 30 or so chairs were removed by volunteers to give the illusion of a full house.
The effect didn’t exactly work.
Pittsburgh native and Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack and Congresswoman Kathy Dahlkemper are also on hand to talk about access to high speed internet as an essential tool for success in business and in school in our struggling economy.
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:29 AM
I was asked by a number of business associates in CA this week how stupid are Minnesotans that they could elect Franken? We are really the laughingstocks of the nation right now, and just as I don’t consider Obama to be “my” president, I don’t consider Franken to be “my” senator.
Obama is failing miserably and Franken will also. Unemployment went up to 9.5% this week after the current administration said it wouldn’t go over 8% and a lot of economists believe it will hit double digit later this year. How anyone can have confidence in this White House or Democrat controlled House and Senate proves that liberals are nothing but a bunch of lemmings who will believe anything these clowns tell them. Many of these people were extremely vocal about W’s deficit, but say nothing about Obama’s quadrupling of it.
James Carville recently cautioned Democrats that they are making the same mistakes that were made in 1994 that led to major gains for Republicans in the House and Senate. Can’t wait for 2010 and 2012 when people will once again realize liberalism continues to fail everytime it’s tried.
July 3rd, 2009 at 5:59 AM
“I was asked by a number of business associates in CA this week how stupid are Minnesotans that they could elect Franken?”
From Californians? A state that has elected one celebrity politician after another? The state that is currently paying it’s debts with IOU’s?
July 3rd, 2009 at 6:13 AM
In any event, I think the problems of Minnesota are very similar to those of California for what amounts to the same reason, a loss of real control over revenues. And I notice the remedies are similar in effect. California, like Minnesota is trying to unallot. California is using IOU’s, which are effectively budget shifts, the policy about which our own governor is so enthusiastic. That’s the direction our governor is leading us, and I believe we should all think long and hard as to whether that’s where we want to go.
July 3rd, 2009 at 8:58 AM
“He’s not even in the Senate yet, and already 44 percent of the country dissapprove of him. It goes to show that people haven’t for about his taxcheating, porn writing, and hate-speech.”
Look at the bright side: he’s broken new ground with his deathless epic “Porn-O-Rama.” If she’s willing to move to Minnesota, the Dems will probably run Christie Hefner next.
July 3rd, 2009 at 9:52 AM
Dash RipyourPants,
Republican leadership has ruined California, as it has the national economy.
Chris,
You said:“If the Obama Administration is so popular, why is it that Joe Biden can’t even draw a crowd of more than 100 people in Erie, PA?”
Typical Republican misinformation.
1. You mention Obama and then use Biden an an example of popularity.
2. Wattsburg has a population of 378. 100 people showing up is pretty good.
3. When Obama was in Minnesota, he filled Excell Center, Target Center and the FUNDRAISER at the Convention Center. You really want to talk about the crowds he can draw?
I.Obama is the most popular living person on Earth.
II. The Republican leadership is less popular than the Democrats.
III. Frankens disapproval numbers are not as high as Congress is overall- he will help bring their numbers up.
July 3rd, 2009 at 10:33 AM
DJZ,
Obama is the most popular living person on Earth? I know he has a Messiah complex, but I didn’t know his supporters were buying into it as well. I bet if you poll tested Obama against the Pope, you’d be in for a surprise.
If you don’t think that Democrat supporters were bused in from around the area to see Joe Biden, you’re nuts. And it’s pretty sad to see how Obama’s supporters are already throwing their Vice President under the bus barely over 100 days into the administration. As for your assertion about the unpopularity of the Republican leadership, I’d just note the current Rasmussen Reports Generic Ballot poll which shows Republicans at 41% and Democrats at 39%.
The takeover of the car companies, the two trillion (and growing) deficit, the failed and wasteful stimulus, and siding with Cuba and Venezuela over the Honduran people and Constitution will all (among others) be issues for the next election.
July 3rd, 2009 at 10:40 AM
You try running on helping out the people of Honduras, as we are in Iraq. Over a trillion dollars there. Try selling that to an American population that’s sucking up the recession your party left us.
We may get to 75 Senators.
July 3rd, 2009 at 12:07 PM
DJZ, Democrats have had control of both house of congress since January 2007. The recession began in 2008. Do try to keep up. You continue to make an ass of yourself when you get the facts wrong.
July 3rd, 2009 at 12:09 PM
Facts wrong and elections right.
July 3rd, 2009 at 12:18 PM
When did the current recession start DJZ? (December 2007) Who controlled Congress when it started? (Democrats) What did the party in charge of Congress do to head off the recession? (Nothing)
You may dream about “75 Senators” but you are more likely to lose 7 or more Senators and a much larger percentage in the House.
Remember 1994? Damn good year!
July 3rd, 2009 at 12:48 PM
DJZ,
What about the trillion that was spent in stimulus and hasn’t created a single job? You want to talk about that wasted money?
As for the people in Honduras, I’d surely rather be on their side than on the side of another dictator. The polls are swinging back to the Republicans in terms of trust on National Security issues. Your party sat there and lectured Republicans and President Bush on alienating our allies. Now Barack Obama is kissing the ass of every tin horn dictator and is screwing our best allies like Great Britian and now even Germany.
July 3rd, 2009 at 12:57 PM
“likely to lose 7″
That is absurd BS..
http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/11/13/203937/04
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:15 PM
Nice post danbrome. Dated Nov 13, 2008. Very current and by a Democrat no less.
Yes you have convinced me. You really do have nothing to contribute. To quote you: you are “absurd BS”.
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:17 PM
Liberal danbrome, mydd.com?? You’re funny in a stupid sort of way.
“Never heard of it.” – Donald Sutherland as Vernon Pinkley, “The Dirty Dozen”.
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:33 PM
DJZ – most popular person on earth, you and Chris Matthews both get a “tingly” feeling up your leg I guess when the messiah speaks. You should check to see if it’s a woodtick next time.
California is run by Democrats and a governor who acts like one. Arnold is nothing but a RINO and has implemented failed Democrat policies of the past exactly as Obama is doing. They recently passed a $1 billion tax increase and their deficit increased even more. Sounds like what your boy is trying to do in D.C.
Also, your revisionist history is quite laughable about when the recession started and who controlled congress when things went south. You truly are one of the koolaid drinkers aren’t you.
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:37 PM
California isn’t run by anyone at all. And I think California represents the direction our governor is taking us. IOU’s are just a form shifts, Gov. Pawlenty’s favorite way to dump our current economic problems on his successor.
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:40 PM
Guys,
What else do you expect from the liberal meathead dambrone? He’s rarely, if ever, cited a current poll. And even here, he links to far-left websites, which tell him what to think, instead of reading the original source (which has since been updated).
http://www.cookpolitical.com/charts/senate/raceratings_2009-07-01_13-21-01.php
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:41 PM
Hiram,
You’re right about the shifts. I’d much rather have painful cuts now than shifts. But the shifts are a compromise with Democrats to protect their favorite programs.
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:43 PM
DJZ – All I can say is that You’re smoking some ‘special’ weed, and it has put what brain you have in a very deep fog.
July 3rd, 2009 at 2:05 PM
The Franken campaign should serve as a wake up call for Republicans. Be on notice: You will either give a beating or you will take one. Either way you will come out covered in dirt.
The democrats will stop at nothing – nothing- to win. It doesn’t bother them in the least to fling mud, lie, steal, or cheat. They do not care who they destroy or what the polls say about them. They care about one thing: winning. They are good at it.
I constantly hear Republican politicians saying they don’t want to “stoop to that level”.
Well say this a few times: Senator Al Franken.
Get it?
Now ask yourselves: Do you want to win? How bad do you want to win? Do you want to win bad enough to do what it takes? Are you ready to get into the dirt now? No?
Say it again: Senator Al Franken.
How about now? Feel any better?
Senator Al Franken. Senator Al Franken. Senator Al Franken. Senator Al Franken.
How about now?
July 3rd, 2009 at 2:12 PM
Say this a few times, Senator Al Franken*.
Senator Al Franken*. Senator Al Franken*. Senator Al Franken*. Senator Al Franken*.
July 3rd, 2009 at 4:22 PM
Who the fuck cares? He’s going to be a Senator for 6 years. Deal with it bitches! You’re all gonna be even older and creepier by the time he wins re-election.
July 3rd, 2009 at 4:46 PM
Chile is probably right. Republicans are pretty good at name-calling and such on this blog. Where it counts: Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm as they, again, graciously accept defeat.
July 3rd, 2009 at 5:23 PM
and now we find out Governor Palin is a quitter.
2 and half years into her term she steps down to ‘save the taxpayers money’?
WTF?
The Republican party is void of leadership right now. Honestly, when Palin steps on the stage- you wing nuts go crazy, you love her. She is no dummy. She can now go and raise money (Republicans are generally having a hard time do it), get some intellectual credibility and hit the media circuit until she is the defacto leader of the Republicans. She is, I repeat, is running for President. Pawlenty- look out! Triple A got his candidate.
You establishment will be going nuts. They like to use her to raise money but, are hesitant to follow her or let her take the lead on any issue that’s not about women. But, to the base, she is a rock star.
Before we have to be concerned about Palin (which is never) she will effectively tear that party up from the inside. Just like she did ol McCain’s campaign.
I bet he’s wishing he would have picked Pawlenty, Romney or Rotten Rudy.
Timmy better start ‘paling’ around with some decent looking conservative women that can talk, like Marsh Blackburn of TN, or he’s going to go the way of Fred Thompson or Duncan Hunter.
Just as you guys force me to open my checkbook, you give us a gift like this that’s going to be fundraising and popularity points gold.
Thanks guys, you sure are swell.
July 3rd, 2009 at 5:58 PM
By the way, due to the celebration of our nation’s independence tomorrow, I will take a 24 hour break from you chuckleheads bickering zone, and recognize you as fellow countrymen. Which you are.
Until midnight tonight though- its still on let’s hear from you.
July 3rd, 2009 at 6:19 PM
True or False: Barack Hussein Obama quit as Senator with more than two years left in his term.
July 3rd, 2009 at 6:46 PM
False.
He served until he was elected President.
Just like McCain.
July 3rd, 2009 at 7:00 PM
Wrong DJZ, the answer is true.
(And he did not resign until twelve days after the Nov. 4 Election. He could have waited, but the clock was ticking on Blago – he wanted to be sure Burris got appointed).
“He served until he was elected President.
Just like McCain.” McCain was elected President?
July 3rd, 2009 at 7:11 PM
WTF?
He was elected President on the 4th and resigned as you noted.
Are so determined to establish the fact that you are oppose to my view that you will skip over the facts- even as you present them?
Obama resigned after the people sent him to the White House. Including the people of Illinois.
Palin resigned after- well after nothing. Just two and half years in her first term.
Why is it necessary to always try to compare Obama to Palin. He won, she was second billing on the losing team.
Now get back to why she couldn’t stand the heat and left after serving technically ONE year and six months before she started running for the DC job.
We’ll just have to wait for her exclusive to PEOPLE if we give a damn.
July 3rd, 2009 at 7:25 PM
DJZ, I asked a straight forward question. One more try ….
True or False: Barack Hussein Obama quit as Senator with more than two years left in his term.
July 3rd, 2009 at 9:33 PM
False.
The people made the decision to send him to the White House to lead the free world with two years left in his SIX year term.
If I remember correctly, the people sent Sara back to Alaska and now she can’t even handle that and is leaving two and half years into her first four year term, after being on the national stage for a year. Weakness. Unless she’s avoiding prosecution.
July 3rd, 2009 at 9:49 PM
“Obama quits Senate after 46 months–21 of them seeking another job”
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/11/obama-senate.html
July 3rd, 2009 at 10:25 PM
Good move because he was elected President of the United States.
July 3rd, 2009 at 10:40 PM
You know what people it is almost Fourth of July a holiday we never would have had without people will to fight in a bloody war that took tremendous will power not to stop and say use diplomacy to work out some dialectical understanding. We would be part of the Soviet Union if not for the Republican Party. You Dems stand for being perpetual victoms and ensuring that if someone doesn’t think they are one that they are and if one disagrees with them on the wrong issue then they are undeserving and should be collectively punished. Your all bees and ants who can’t think for oneself. You are all sheep. Am I afraid of sheep? Well heck yes when they are 10′s of millions of them bleating.
July 3rd, 2009 at 10:47 PM
DAZE mentioned a what?
“Free worldâ€
So we live now in a free world now since President Obama has taken office? The world’s people are free…all the nations are free all the people are free?
Just being stupid by taking words out of context a trick you Dems love to do and somehow think it’s intellectual.
July 3rd, 2009 at 10:55 PM
DJZ does your resume exceed hers? How many people are fit to be president? Not many, she is a remarkable person who happens to be human like so many of us less those who are reptilian in nature and have no innate humanity. Only learned by example…a trained animal.
July 3rd, 2009 at 11:17 PM
DJZ isn’t smart enough to be a sheep. He couldn’t even get a true or false question right – even thought he was allowed two guesses!
DJZ an Obot.
July 3rd, 2009 at 11:26 PM
You know what people it is almost Fourth of July a holiday we never would have had without people will to fight in a bloody war that took tremendous will power not to stop and say use diplomacy to work out some dialectical understanding. We would be part of the Soviet Union if not for the Republican Party. You Dems stand for being perpetual victoms and ensuring that if someone doesn’t think they are one that they are and if one disagrees with them on the wrong issue then they are undeserving and should be collectively punished. Your all bees and ants who can’t think for oneself. You are all sheep. Am I afraid of sheep? Well heck yes when they are 10’s of millions of them bleating.
Wow.
I can’t make this up faster than it becomes true.
Party over country huh PR, keep it up and keep it pure.
July 3rd, 2009 at 11:57 PM
DJZ, you are a commie loving un-American bastard.
July 4th, 2009 at 6:59 PM
Focused on 2010 & Chris & Chile:
How does this add up to Democrats are “likely to lose 7″?
That’s ABSURD.
http://www.cookpolitical.com/charts/senate/raceratings_2009-07-01_13-21-01.php
July 4th, 2009 at 9:09 PM
Liberal danbrome, Cook has Harry Reid in the “likely” category, nine days after a poll showed he has only a 34% approval rating in Nevada. Dodd is listed as a “toss up”, despite having a 33% approval rating in Conneticut.
That’ ABSURD.
July 4th, 2009 at 9:47 PM
What makes you think I give a damn what the Cook Political Report says?
I stand by me statement, Democrats are likely to lose 7 or more.
July 4th, 2009 at 11:59 PM
Focused..
My “Franken by 503″ was a lot closer than your “likely to lose 7 or more” will ever be.
I realize that confidence can be sexy, but a little common sense is in order here.
July 5th, 2009 at 12:02 AM
Focused..
For the record, are you saying that the Democrats will experience a NET LOSS of 7 senators in 2010?
Thanks in advance for your clarification.
July 5th, 2009 at 1:05 AM
brone,
I know all you care about are polls and what far-left websites spoon feed to you. But I’d be pretty damned concerned if my party was about to lose the Governorship of New Jersey and possibly Virginia in the 2009 elections.
Remember that Republicans beat Tom Daschle because he was a liberal, bitter partisan in an otherwise red state and we’ll do the same to Harry Reid who is even more liberal and bitter than Daschle. With all of the military in Nevada, I don’t think Reid’s pronouncement that the Iraq war was lost before the surge even began was particularly popular.
July 5th, 2009 at 6:21 AM
I am always concerned. And there will be some high profile losses coming up. Obviously Corzine should step down as a candidate. I am not as pessimistic as some about Virginia, but that’s always a tough place for Democrat to win. Reid’s candidacy in Nevada is generally considered hopeless. But that’s the way things are in politics. You win some, and you lose some.
July 5th, 2009 at 10:40 AM
These guys are like the Fox News hosts on election. Drawing in the furthest scenarios to explain how the Republicans win.
How in the hell are you going to win in Nevada or New Jersey while raising up the hate meter on Hispanics? You’ve played yourselves out with any state with a sizable Hispanic voting population. You’d been smart to go along with getting Sotomayor confirmed by the end of this month. Dragging this out just allows your leaders to insult hispanics and their organizations longer and closer to the election season.
You’re still loosing with educated people and young people. Look at the population centers in Virginia- again.
You’ve done nothing to push a message of your own. You’re now peddling Hope, hope that enough Americans are turned off by the Democrats action. Well, great. Except politicians are rewarded for trying instead of crying. Republicans have done nothing but cried since they lost the elections.
Besides, won’t you be too busy trying to defeat the eight republicans who voted for the Climate Bill? I think 3 were from New Jersey.
You still just don’t get it.
July 5th, 2009 at 12:34 PM
DJZ,
Funny that Hispanics didn’t turn against the Democrat Party when you smeared Al Gonzalez and blocked the nomination of Miguel Estrada. And blacks didn’t turn against the Democrat Party when you smeared Justice Thomas and blocked the nomination of Janice Rogers Brown.
Jimmy Carter tried like hell to turn the economy around and free the hostages. Voters realized that his policies were to BLAME for the economy and the hostages and they voted him out. Funny how history repeats itself because Barack Obama is pursuing the exact same Carteresque policies that led to the failed economy of the 1970s and American decline around the globe.
You still just don’t get it.
July 5th, 2009 at 1:05 PM
Chris,
That’s true about the other groups not abandoning the Democratic party over those examples.
Again, you thinking that they represent some kind of relevance is yet another example of the Republicans not getting it.
How small do you have to shrink your party before you start to realize you’re out of touch?
Jimmy Carter is so long ago that its like arguing the Depression for most voters. Millions were not even born and millions more weren’t old enough to vote for him- including the current President.
You’re mired in the past because the present is confusing and the future scares you.
Step One: Admit your policies are rejected over your personalities.
July 5th, 2009 at 2:21 PM
“Jimmy Carter is so long ago that its like arguing the Depression for most voters. Millions were not even born and millions more weren’t old enough to vote for him- including the current President.”
Jimmy Carter served 30 years ago. The Depression was 70 years ago. But I’m glad to see DJZ admit that Carter was the the worst president ever – next to Obama.
July 5th, 2009 at 2:51 PM
Harry Reid will win because the republicans will not find a viable candidate to run against him. The republican governor and republican congressman has said no, the republican mayor of Reno endorsed Reid (not sure why). Also, Reid has an insane amount of cash that he has been raising since before 2008, which he can use to blanket the main media market in Nevada. So Reid is heavily favored despite his approval ratings.
Dodd, on the other hand, has a legitimate opponent, former congressman Rob Simmons, who is a very moderate and popular republican known well throughout the state. Dodd cannot buy his way out of that race, and faces an uphill battle for re-election.
As for the person who said that democrats will lose 7 seats, I’m not exactly sure what sort of news your reading; what other democrats are at risk of losing besides Dodd and Reid? Democrats have a good chance of winning four seats where the republican is retiring (NH, MO, OH, FL); in addition GOP senator David Vitter of Lousiana is running for re-election despite being caught in a prostitute scandal, and senator Jim Bunning of Kentucky has worse approval ratings than Dodd and Reid and has attracted the democrat LT. Gov and Attorney General to challenge him.
My main point is that the democrats, unlike the republicans, embrace the moderate wing of their party. Reading the conservative blogs, you wouldn’t have any idea that 44 (yes 44) democrats voted against Pelosi on cap and trade, only that 8 traitor republicans voted for it. Democrats will find conservative candidates that can win in states that John Mccain won; if the republicans try to to the same in liberal states, the challengers will be branded as RINOs and will not get the votes of many conservatives. Until the republicans decide that winning is more important than ideological purity, they will always remain in the minority.
July 5th, 2009 at 3:55 PM
Darren says: “Reading the conservative blogs, you wouldn’t have any idea that 44 (yes 44) democrats voted against Pelosi on cap and trade, only that 8 traitor republicans voted for it.”
Darren, we’ve already got a bunch of moonbats who come here and repeat George Soros’s talking points. Read the following and take it as a lesson as to why you should think before you speak.
http://michellemalkin.com/2009/06/26/the-8-cap-and-tax-republicans/
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=32491
http://bsimmons.wordpress.com/2009/06/28/the-8-cap-and-tax-republicans%E2%80%A6and-the-44-democrats-who-voted-no/
http://conservativethoughts.us/2009/06/27/list-of-cap-trade-turncoats/
http://rightwingnews.com/mt331/2009/06/speaking_tax_to_power_house_de.php
July 5th, 2009 at 4:09 PM
My point was that conservatives are calling for the heads of the eight “Cap and Traitor” republicans who voted yes, while there has been no such movement on the left to purge the party of those who voted no on this bill.
July 5th, 2009 at 4:27 PM
No Darren, your point was that conservative blogs totally ingorned the 44 Democrat who disagreed with this horrible legislation. You heard that somewhere and decided to repeat the lie without checking you facts.
Why did blue-to-yellow dog Democrats like Collin Peterson and Tim Walz support it? Because they were threatened by Pelosi and Waxman. (In Walz’s case – think back to Pelosi’s recent visit to raise funds for him: Quid pro quo!)
We can all expect that the 44 democrats who voted no will now be given be considered “Traitor Joes” within the Democratic Party.
July 5th, 2009 at 5:42 PM
DJZ,
Glad you’re admitting that Barry Obama is another Jimmy Carter. Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it. You may be willing to go through the Carter years again, but I’m not. I think you need one of these:
http://www.thoseshirts.com/wbc.html
July 5th, 2009 at 5:48 PM
Darren..
“As for the person who said that democrats will lose 7 seats, I’m not exactly sure what sort of news your reading; what other democrats are at risk of losing besides Dodd and Reid?”
I suspect that you might be new around here, and aren’t aware of something..
Focused on 2010 is the one who said Democrats were “likely to lose 7 or more Senators”.
I suspect he has Rush Limbaugh reruns on his headset while he watches Sean Hannity’s nightly farce.
Focused? Is that about right?
July 5th, 2009 at 5:48 PM
Chris, those shirts are so great. (And so true!)
I’m going to get one for the whole family.
July 5th, 2009 at 5:54 PM
chile,
they don’t make shirts for dogs.
July 5th, 2009 at 5:58 PM
Liberal danbrome, for a goofball who prognosticated Franken* by 503, over and over and over again, you have no room to talk. So STFU.
July 5th, 2009 at 6:05 PM
chile..
Yeah, I was off my a mile.
Funny thing is, I did pick the winner now, didn’t I? The winner was my candidate, Senator-Elect Al Franken!
July 5th, 2009 at 6:07 PM
Hey Focused..
For the record, are you saying that the Democrats will experience a NET LOSS of 7 senators in 2010?
Thanks in advance for your clarification.
July 5th, 2009 at 6:59 PM
brone,
For the record, I’m saying that the Democrat party’s current margin of 60 Senators is going to be a high water mark. Whether the Democrats lose two or three or seven will depend on how long unemployment stays above double digits. In terms of unemployment, this is already the worst recession since after WWII.
http://www.businessinsider.com/henry-blodget-the-scariest-jobs-chart-ever-2009-7
July 5th, 2009 at 9:19 PM
chris..
I agree 100%.
July 5th, 2009 at 10:50 PM
For the record what I said was “Democrats are likely to lose 7 or more”. As a matter of fact I said that twice.
There is nothing to clarify.
July 5th, 2009 at 11:11 PM
Focused..
With all due respect, for Democrats to “LOSE” 7 or more, by definition they would have to lose a NET seven seats.
Otherwise, they would not be considered to have lost 7.
For example, if the Dems win 5 races, and lose 5 races, they will have lost zero.
July 5th, 2009 at 11:30 PM
Liberal danbrome, go back and read the thread, you idiot.
DJZ said “We may get to 75 Senators.”
2010 responded: “You may dream about “75 Senators†but you are more likely to lose 7 or more Senators and a much larger percentage in the House.”
You yourself agreed with Chris that 60 Democratic senators is a “high water mark.”
Why is it you pin down 2010, but ignore DJZ – whose prediction is more “absurd”?
July 5th, 2009 at 11:38 PM
Liberal danbrome, when I hear of a “loss” of 7 seats” – I do think net loss. However, this is not by “definition.”
Let’s say I’m at the state fair and lose a twenty dollar bill. I’ve lost $20. An hour later I find a five dollar bill. I’ve found $5, but that doesn’t mean I didn’t also loose $20.
July 6th, 2009 at 1:11 AM
dambrone,
A loss of seven seats is a loss of seven seats. The Democrats will not lose seven and make up seven for a zero net gain.
July 6th, 2009 at 10:11 AM
The conservatives on this site use logic. I’m not sure what danbrome uses but it is not logic or even common sense.
July 6th, 2009 at 1:36 PM
Focused,
It’s clear that dambrone doesn’t have the sense God gave a goose.
July 6th, 2009 at 5:30 PM
Focused on 2010 Says:
The conservatives on this site use logic.
–
Wait. Did he? Just say…
BAWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 6th, 2009 at 7:56 PM
I appreciate you helping me prove my point DJZ.
I was surprised it took so long for a leach on society to come back with a stupid response.
July 6th, 2009 at 10:31 PM
Focused/Pete/Elton
How can you call someone a leach when you are the one who said you were leaving the site, only to come back. You keep sticking around. If that’s not a leach, I don’t know what is.
July 6th, 2009 at 11:14 PM
The Senate is comprised of 100 Senators. There are seldom less than 100 (unless a bogus recount is being conducted etc…)
Saying that the Democrats will lose 7 senate races is far different than saying they will lose 7 seats. Bozo has stated that he meant they will lose 7 seats.
THAT is absurd, no matter how stupid you are convinced I am. The math doesn’t work Bozo.
July 6th, 2009 at 11:15 PM
Even the conservative websites don’t suggest anything close to a 7 seat loss for the Democrats. Why do you insist your absurd prediction is realistic?
July 7th, 2009 at 12:42 AM
Liberal danbrome says: “The Senate is comprised of 100 Senators. There are seldom less than 100 (unless a bogus recount is being conducted etc…)”
He agrees that the Ritchie-rigged recount was bogus!
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July 7th, 2009 at 7:00 AM
You keep misquoting me danbrome. To be accurate the quote is “likely to lose 7 or more Senators and a much larger percentage in the House”.
If you can’t quote me accurately don’t quote me at all.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:13 AM
Focused..
So can I assume you are taking back your statement?
Finally, you see how ridiculous it is.
Whew!
July 7th, 2009 at 10:42 AM
dambrone,
You need to learn how to read. Focused is not taking back his statement. Mark my words, the Democrat’s 60 U.S. Senators is a high water mark. The last time it happened was during Jimmy Carter and it didn’t last long. Coincidence? I’m not sure as Obama is pursuing the same economic and foreign policies that nearly ruined our country during the Carter years.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:58 AM
No danbrome, I’m pointing out that your words are not mine. Is English your second language?
July 7th, 2009 at 11:58 AM
I know you are a little embarrassed to have made the absurd statement, but please don’t cop out and shoot the messenger.
Everybody here can read your statement and make their own decision.
Be fair, I quoted you very carefully, even though you think I’m a moron.
July 7th, 2009 at 12:29 PM
danbrome tells so many lies he can’t even keep them straight. I read very carefully what Focused said and you did not quote him correctly.
What’s absurd is the notion that Democrats are going to gain seats in the Senate after the dismal economic performance of Congress and the Obama administration so far.
July 7th, 2009 at 3:02 PM
dnbrome, go are wrong. You’re just mad because you were so far on Franken’s* margin.
July 7th, 2009 at 3:56 PM
chile..
would you kindly translate post #108 into English?
Thank You.
July 7th, 2009 at 4:33 PM
Liberal danbrome, you are wrong. You’re just mad because you were so far off on Franken’s* margin.
You’re welcome.
Liberal danbrome: Queer eye for the dotted “i”.
July 7th, 2009 at 4:35 PM
You failed to answer my question danbrome, is English your second language?.
Never mind, obviously it is you second language.
Either that or you have spent the past 8 years in grade school trying to get it right.
July 7th, 2009 at 4:56 PM
Pete says “Never mind, obviously it is you second language.”
And what language would that be that you just used?
July 7th, 2009 at 11:00 PM
AC..
Pete? You mean Pete F.????
July 8th, 2009 at 12:50 AM
Focused,
danbrome dodges every question asked of him. He’s not a serious person but rather a partisan, liberal Kool Aid drinker as judged by his profanity laced attacks against people who disagree with good ol’brone.
July 8th, 2009 at 9:50 AM
Danbrome, yes, Pete F.
Don’t you find the timing odd that Pete proclaims on here he is leaving and then about 10 days later Focused on 2010 starts posting with the same themes and same style as Pete?
Also, Pete started ending all of his posts with something like “2010 is looking better every day.”
And Focused hasn’t denied it yet.
Focused on 2010 = Pete?