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NSRC RELEASES WEBVIDEO “60″
By Ryan Flynn | July 7, 2009
The National Republican Senatorial Committee has released a new web video featuring Al Franken*.
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July 7th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
Nice and boring retread of the same ol. Everybody knows we’re cleaning up your mess.
That style of messaging has scared the voters into handing over power to the Democrats.
Please keep it up.
Oh, and don’t bother to put anything yourself as far as how you would do things. We know that voters respond quite well to the ‘vote against them’ message.
Let me help:
1994: Contract with America- a real plan. GOP take over.
1998: No message, impeached Clinton, Newt bounced out for ethics, Republicans lost seats.
2000: Bush looses to Gore by 500,000 votes. USSC gives the White House. Republicans riding high on their own farts.
2004: Scare the shit out of the public on terrorism, put forth plan to go to Mars, talk about closing Gitmo, made Kerry look French- GOP barely hang on. Obama goes to the Senate after kicking the living crap out of the GOP endorsed crazy-man Alan Keyes.
2006: Democrats weak on security, dismantle Social Security, more tax cuts, more Iraq. In the end, MORE Democrats!
2008: Democrats weak on security, dismantled the economy, promised permanent tax cuts. EVEN MORE Democrats elected as far as the eye can see.
2010: Democrats weak on security, RINOs get squeezed and challenged in Primaries, raise your taxes, government health care. More Democrats elected.
2012: Democrats economic, energy and health plans are paying off well. The GOP becomes insignificant and are given Florida, South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, and Texas. (Texas begs to stay with the union). Obama re-elected. Biden to Supreme Court and Pelosi as VP. Newt is caught cheating on his fourth wife and tries to become a traditional Mormon-Romney has him shot.
2016: Return of the Whigs, death of the GOP. Olympics in Chicago.
All of that because you guys can’t see you’re losing grip with the public.
July 7th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
From DJZ’s post it is obvious the DFL is scared. Not one word in his post supporting what Obama and the Democrats are doing today. His predictions for 2010 and 2012 are foolish and misguided. All he can do is slam the GOP and make excuses for the DFL. If the GOP were truely “losing grip with the public” DJZ and other liberals would keep quiet and let it happen, but it is the DFL that is “losing grip with the public”. Polls show it but they fail to see it.
The video is a strong message. The Democrats have spent the last 2 decades blaming Republicans for their problems. Now they will have to look in the mirror and point the finger at themselves.
The polls show that support for Obama’s socialist policies is declining. People are realizing that they elected a fool who is incapable of governing. We can only hope that the damage he and his Democrat cohorts are doing is reversible.
Vote Republican in 2010.
July 7th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Why does DJZ think he can predict 2010, 2012, 2016, when he can’t even get the fact right about, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2004, 2006 and 2008?
July 7th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
DJZ,
I’ve seen fairy tales before but yours takes the cake. You failed to mention the 20 million jobs created by Bush during his eight years and the 500,000+ a month jobs being lost now. You’re forgetting the $2 trillion deficit that we have this year alone and the $750 billion porkulus that hasn’t worked. In the end, our country will have more debt and fewer jobs because Obama is repeating the same failed policies of the Carter years. Despite what you liberal Democrats think, you cannot spend yourselves into prosperity. And as for health care, I’ll stick with the world class health care that I receive right now. I don’t want the government to dictate where, when and how much health care I can receive. We do not need a government which cannot deliver the mail efficiently to be in charge of health care, but thanks anyway.
July 7th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Everybody knows we’re cleaning up your mess.
Can’t wait til you get started because the idiocy you’re doing now is ruining the country.
July 7th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
OK, time to correct Chris’ post with FACTS:
According to the BLS, employment increased under Bush by 5.2 million through Sept. 2008. (Clinton produced 21.0 million jobs during that same length of time.) So where did the other 15 million jobs go Chris?
The US lost less than 500,000 jobs in June. Still sucky, but looks like it is bottoming out. Too early to tell though.
July 7th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
AC, how can it bottom out with Oboy shutting down car dealerships and other businesses?
July 7th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
chris..
How do you propose we get all Americans covered by affordable health insurance, so we can get a handle on costs?
Just because your situation may be rosey doesn’t mean all is well. American should all have a chance to be covered by affordable health insurance coverage.
Pull your head out of the sand and propose a solution. Otherwise, quit complaining about the Democrats who are not afraid to act.
July 7th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
Seriously, when (if ever) will the GOP get past the urge to base their political future on fear of the Democrats?
I think DJZ was right when he suggested that a GOP with a plan could make advances in the Congress as in 1994.
Oh wait, there is no leadership in the GOP that’s brave enough to stand up and propose solutions.
Nevermind!
July 7th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
“Clinton produced 21.0 million jobs during that same length of time.”
Clinton produced no jobs… unless you’re willing to concede that in six months, Barack Obama has destroyed about 5 million jobs.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
chris..
“I’ll stick with the world class health care that I receive right now.”
Have you no concerns for those less fortunate? Do you just try not to think about them? Or do you refuse to believe they are suffering?
July 7th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
“Seriously, when (if ever) will the DFL get past the urge to base their political future on fear”
Well said.
“Oh wait, there is no leadership in the Democrat Party that’s willing to hear anything other than socialist, anti-American solutions.”
How true. The good news is, EVERYONE now knows that Democrats have created this mess since Democrats took over in 2006.
You fascist bastards have nobody to blame…
July 7th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
Chestnut..
You are smart enough to know that Obama’s policies alone did not cost us 5 million jobs. I suggest you cut the theatrics and be honest about that.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
“You are smart enough to know that Obama’s policies alone did not cost us 5 million jobs.”
And you and AC are smart enough to know that Bush’s policies alone did not cost us any jobs either.
Seriously, you fascist puke, do you have any clue?
July 7th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
“How do you propose we get all Americans covered by affordable health insurance, so we can get a handle on costs?”
There are only 8 million Americans without access to health insurance. It’s hardly worth upsetting the apple cart over.
Besides, shifting payment of health care to government isn’t going to do a goddam thing to control costs.
Only a retard would suggest such a thing… or a fascist Democrat.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
chestnut..
3 very serious questions:
1.) Do you agree that the GOP bases it’s political future on fear of the Democrats? (watch the video Einstein)
2.) Do you agree that if Republicans had a plan (like in 1994) they would advance in the Congress?
3.) Do you truly think the GOP has a leader who will stand up and propose real solutions, not just ideology?
Would you please compose your answer without all the smoke bombs?
July 7th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
“American should all have a chance to be covered by affordable health insurance coverage.”
Americans DO have the chance to be covered by affordable health insurance coverage… particularly if all the mandates demanded by fascist Democrats would be dropped.
Why does a 20 year old single male need OB/GYN coverage?
Moreover, of the 36 million Americans without coverage, only 8 million can’t actually afford a comprehensive plan.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
chestnut..
I’m done trying to talk with you.
Not only do you have your facts wrong, but you are totally clueless about health care issues.
Later.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
“1.) Do you agree that the GOP bases it’s political future on fear of the Democrats? (watch the video Einstein)”
No. There’s nothing about fear of Democrats in the video, moron. The video communicates a clear message — even if you don’t get it. That message is this: Democrats own it. All if it. If you’re not satisfied, hold Democrats accountable.
It’s pretty much the same message Democrats ran in 2004. Why do you have such a problem with it?
“2.) Do you agree that if Republicans had a plan (like in 1994) they would advance in the Congress?”
Of course. And I expect 2010 to be a good hear for Conservatives.
“3.) Do you truly think the GOP has a leader who will stand up and propose real solutions, not just ideology?”
The Conservatives have been offering non-stop solutions to the problem, they’ve been ram-rodded by fascist liberal ideology, danbrome.
Just because you are too stupid to understand and too deaf to hear, and your leaders are too fascist to consider dissenting views doesn’t mean the voices aren’t there.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
“Not only do you have your facts wrong, but you are totally clueless about health care issues.”
Really? Seems I’ve got my facts right on the money. If you have a problem with one of my facts, please expound.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
BTW — I’ve worked in health care for about 4 years now, I have a very clear understanding of the issues… and a clear separation of facts from liberal bullshit.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
Riddle me this, fascist: How does Obama’s health care payer shell game control costs?
Riddle this too: Where are you going to go for care when your hospital joins the thousands who already won’t accept Federal Government coverage (Medicare/Medicaid)?
July 7th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
Oh, I know what fact you think I have wrong… the number of uninsured Americans. No, I assure you I have that correct.
Allow me to explain. The current, accurate figure is that there are 46 million uninsured individuals in the country. Of that total (you can check this out for yourself) 10 million are non-U.S. citizens (read: NOT AMERICANS).
So the number of Americans without health coverage is 36 million. That’s just over 10 percent of the population, BTW.
O.k., so that’s those without coverage. The next fascist lie is that they can’t afford it. Bullshit.
Of the 36 million, over 17 million made over $50K per year and 10 million of those earned over $75K… these are individuals who CAN afford it, but choose not to buy it.
… and then you get into the millions who are eligible for existing programs, but just simply aren’t enrolled.
Get your facts straight fascist, before you whine about unaffordable health care.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
All of this is beside the point that nobody is entitled to anything for free. Health care is just another whipping post for fascist Democrats who demand free stuff at the expense of others freedom.
You want to know why this country is fucked up danbrome, look in the mirror, then at the fascist idiots (Obama, Pelosi, Read, Murtha, etc.) idiots like you elected.
I’m pleased to be in the 58 percent of Minnesotans who did not vote for Al Franken. That’s the majority, and don’t you forget it.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
Uhhhh
What about the families that make $0 per year? How about $8K, $12K? $15? $20?
These families are not on Chris’s gravy train, anxious to keep the world class health care they already have, because they can’t afford it.
We need to work together to fix that.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
Who is Read?
July 7th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
“What about the families that make $0 per year? How about $8K, $12K? $15? $20?”
What about them. Every single one of them will receive care if they need it. All of them.
What, do you think people won’t die if government takes control?
If so, you’re even more retarded than I give you credit for, fascist.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
“Who is Read?”
Reid… Typo… sorry.
“These families are not on Chris’s gravy train…”
You mean the gravy train that Chris bust his ass and works for? You’re right, their not on his train… and they have not right to hitch a ride either.
Besides, the gravy flowing out of D.C. is fat enough already.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
Chestnut..
Knock it off.
I’m not a fascist, and I don’t support a plan that includes the Government taking control.
I’m sorry your party has become so impotent that you feel it necessary to throw bombs at me.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
“You mean the gravy train that Chris bust his ass and works for? You’re right, their not on his train… and they have not right to hitch a ride either.”
Sorry, but again I need an English translation of this mess.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
“What about the families that make $0 per year? How about $8K, $12K? $15? $20?â€
And one more thing… this 8 percent of people are not the earth shattering melt-down that would necessitate the eradication of a health system that actually works pretty well for most people.
BTW: Here’s a novel fucking solution: If health care entitlements are strangling the government, how does going all in aid the problem? Couldn’t it be just as beneficial to untangle government’s role?
… and I thank Bush for fucking up Medicaid with by expanding that entitlement… just so you realize that I am objective about it.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
“Sorry, but again I need an English translation of this mess.”
Chris earns his coverage. Chris works hard for his coverage. Nobody has a right to hitch a free ride for Chris’ “gravy train” as you put it.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
Chestnut..
Thanks for the translation. I agree 100%.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
You claim you’re an objective minded individual danbrome, I challenge you to demonstrate that for once.
Hint: You’ll have to crawl out from beneath Barack’s sack to do so.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
English is danbrome’s second language so you have to type very slowly Chestnut. He often needs things repeated because he can’t figure out how to scroll back and read it again.
Maybe he is one of those illegal immigrants, who knows!
July 7th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
“I agree 100%.”
And yet you chastise someone else’s “gravy train” for the coverage they’ve provided for themselves.
… and yet you advocate a government take over of health care…
… and yet you’ve already told us you believe that we should pay for everyone else’s insurance.
I’ll have to add “liar” to the list of adjectives I use on you, danbrome.
Or should I give you the benefit of the doubt that you are just intellectually lazy.
July 7th, 2009 at 10:57 pm
I do not support a government takeover of health care. You made that up.
We need to find a way to provide affordable and accessible health care for every American. I am open to suggestions other than screw the poor and let’s keep everything the way it is.
Calling me a liar just make you look stupid, but be my guest.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
“We need to find a way to provide affordable and accessible health care for every American.”
And I already demonstrated that this is, largely, already the case.
To be sure, there are huge opportunities to improve the health care system… but the entire conversation about insurance, single payer, etc. is as misguided as it is stupid…
And I will add… that as bloated, un-necessary and un-American as the stimulus bill is as a whole, there are some smart provisions within it to support health information technology.
Unfortunately, Democrats didn’t allow for any of this to be debated publicly… so few will ever know about it.
July 7th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
“I am open to suggestions…”
I don’t care what you’re open too. If you’re so concerned about fixing something, offer solutions or shut the fuck up.
To date, the only suggestions you’ve made hinting at a solution is that it’s the federal government’s job to fix this thing you think is a problem.
You’re wrong on both accounts. It’s not the federal government’s job, except to perhaps back away… and it’s not that big of a problem…
July 8th, 2009 at 12:47 am
dambrone,
Are you really serious? You actually support throwing out the baby with the bath water. I have documented here countless times not only how to improve health care access for lower income earners but also the problem with adding 40 million people into the health care system without increasing costs of expanding services. It can’t be done. Even President Obama admits this and says that health care should be rationed.
You’re wrong about something else: people making zero or $8k a year do have health care through Medicaid. It’s the self-employed and middle income people who don’t have employer-based health insurance who have problems affording health care. Obama’s plan doesn’t do anything to help those people.
Finally, I leave you with this test. When your Congressman says that he or she is going to support a government run health care system, ask whether he or she will be giving up their Cadillac health care plan to opt for the government run plan. If they say no, then they should vote against government health care.
July 8th, 2009 at 2:29 am
Liberal danbrome is “open to suggestions.”
Here is my suggestion.
#1 Tort reform. Cap on Med-mal exposure. Loser pay attorney costs. This takes away many of the unecessary tests orderded by physicians, just to cover their asses.
#2 Immigration reform. Close down the borders and round up the illegals. I believe Chestnut was a bit conservative with the 10 million illegals in this country. Send the illegals back where they came from along with any associated “anchor babies.”. This would lift a great burden from K-12 education, welfare, law enforcement, and government-provided health care. Make it a federal felony to employ illegals or enroll their kids in a public school.
#3 The President, Vice President, Senate and Congress all be given a health policy that covers health care costs over $25,000. They can buy private insurance if they want. You think that might get their attention about what drives costs?
#4 All other public employees making more than $100K be given a policy covering more than $10,000 in annual health care expenses. They can buy their own private health care plan as well.
Final thoughts. Most health insurance costs are not about insuring anything – it is the method for funding what we reasonably can expect. This begs the question as to why should anyone be expected to pay for someone else’s “planned” pregancy? Outside of difficult pregnancies – if you can’t pay for the birth, how can you pay for the kid? Unplanned pregnancy: Unless you were raped, this still was your “choice”, why should the government or someone else pay for that? Especially if you keep smoking crack while pregnant.
Liberal danbrome asks; “What about the families that make $0 per year? How about $8K, $12K? $15? $20?”
This make me ask if Liberal danbrome has any understanding of the issues at all. Those families are already covered my medicaid. (along with food stamps, free school lunch, Section 8 housing, daycare subsidies, and probably cash benefits.)
Chestunt rightly suggests the federal government should back away. They won’t because those dependent on government aid are a vital part of the Democratic base. For decades Democrats have addressed “poverty” by feeding it, not for one moment have they had the intention of eliminating it.
Many who’ve chosen goverment dependency as a career, have a better quality of life than many who’ve chosen to pay their own way. Democrats are paving the way to socialism.
July 8th, 2009 at 10:05 am
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July 8th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
I am for a public option.
If the private companies can offer better, then bring it on but, right now, we do not have an open system.
If you fear a public option then open the system. Allow the private insurers to actually compete against each other across the country and outlaw hospitals and doctors from being forced to sign exclusivity clauses.
Chestnut, you know exactly what I’m talking about.
One of the noble actions of Trent Lott was when he tried to repeal Mccarron-Ferguson when his constituents were having trouble with their insurance companies after Katrina. It exempts insurance companies from federal anti-trust laws.
If they do that, then the public option may not be needed as the insurance companies will then be truly competing against each other.
Right now they have a gentlemen’s agreement that has resulted in regional monopolies and a profit system based on not honoring claims.
July 8th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
DJZ,
I agree with you 100% that health insurance should be able to compete nationwide. Right now they can’t because each state regulates health insurance companies. I think it would be great if health insurance was offered like auto insurance is.
I am not for a public option. Doctors and hospitals are turning back Medicare patients because of the restrictions from the federal government. I do not want a bureaucrat in the federal government in chrage of my health care. The bureaucrats can’t deliver the mail without losing money, why would delivering health care be any different?
July 8th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
If you would have left it with the first paragraph then we’d be cool. Now, you force me to say,
Our postal system is the most efficient in the world. Our military is ran by the government- the best on earth. Social Security has been pretty reliable. Ran by the government.
I don’t hear veterans complain about their health care except when they have to travel 300 miles to a VA because hospitals have signed agreements with private insurers that force seniors and veterans to go elsewhere.
Like I said, open it up then we can see what the real story. As long as the right carry water for the insurance industry, it will never be an open conversation only a smash and grab type of legislation or structure.
July 8th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
“Our postal system is the most efficient in the world.” It’s amazing how much cheaper it is to send a package by UPS or FedEx.
“Our military is ran by the government- the best on earth.” True, but no thanks to Clinton, who gutted it in the 90s. Also, our military wouldn’t be what it is without the many private companies that design and manufacture it’s weapon systems.
“Social Security has been pretty reliable.” Wrong. It’s alway in the red. To prevent cashflow problems, they cut benefits and/or raise rates.
July 8th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
DJZ sez: “If you fear a public option then open the system. Allow the private insurers to actually compete against each other across the country and outlaw hospitals and doctors from being forced to sign exclusivity clauses.”
Good idea, actually. I’m not sure why Democrats in states like Minnesota ban health insurance companies from competing in their states. Opening the system to more competition is a good idea DJZ.
Credit where it’s due.
July 8th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
“Social Security has been pretty reliable.”
LOL… until government bankrupts it in a few years. Good one, DJZ.
BTW– the “public option” is snake oil. Government has no capability whatsoever to operate an insurance plan… they don’t do it now (Medicare and Medicaid are contracted to private insurance handlers)…
Besides, Payment administration isn’t where the trouble is in health care costs.
July 8th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
“…because hospitals have signed agreements with private insurers that force seniors and veterans to go elsewhere.”
I’d be interested where you heard this bullshit. There are no such agreements between private hospitals and insurers.
VA and Medicare/Medicaid are rejected by hospitals because they reimburse 50 cents on the dollar…
The same hospitals will reject anyone covered by a “public option” for the same reason.
July 9th, 2009 at 1:05 am
DJZ says, “One of the noble actions of Trent Lott was when he tried to repeal Mccarron-Ferguson when his constituents were having trouble with their insurance companies after Katrina.”
Actually DJZ, Trott was one of the constituents that was having trouble with insurance companies. What was the problem? His home was flooded and he didn’t have flood insurance?
Mccarron-Ferguson provides an anti-trust exemption, as long as state regulation is in place, which it was in Mississippi. Trott was simply trying to force Property/Casualty companies to cover a noncovered exposure by the threat of repealing M-F. Repealing M-F by itself would do nothing for the residents of Mississippi.
Property Casualty Insurance is a million miles away from Life/Health Insurance. DJZ, what the hell would a repeal of M-F do for the average health insurance consumer? What would it do for those who don’t have insurance?
July 9th, 2009 at 2:33 am
Chris,
It would allow for competition among the insurance companies thus, lowering costs.
In theory at least.
July 9th, 2009 at 10:46 am
DJZ,
There is never competition when the government is one of the competitors and gets to set the rules. I’m fully in favor of allowing insurance companies to compete nationwide like auto insurers. I think that’s a great idea. But don’t turn our entire health care system into another Medicare. It’s absurd to think you can add 40 million people to the health care system with the same number of doctors, hospitals, clinics, etc. and think you can keep costs low.
July 9th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
“It would allow for competition among the insurance companies thus, lowering costs.”
There’s already competition between the insurance carriers… however, DJZ, I still like your idea of getting liberals to drop the state-wide prohibitions that limit competition within their states.
Another idea that would lower costs would be to end the stupid mandates that require everyone who is insured to carry insurance for medical issues they’ll never need.
DJZ, you don’t know a goddam thing about health care. The best you’ve mustered here are the half-retarded and fully uniformed talking points from people so deranged even the state-owned-media won’t publish their garbage.
July 9th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
… and BTW… a “public option” would only reduce competition for insurance coverage…
You’ve got to be completely brain dead not to understand that…
July 12th, 2009 at 12:00 am
chestnut..
YOU are calling someone else brain dead?
LOL