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FRANKEN* CO-SPONSORS HIS FIRST BILL…TO TAKE AWAY YOUR RIGHT TO A SECRET BALLOT

By Aaron Cocking | July 8, 2009

Al Franken* was sworn in as Senator on Tuesday and wasted no time making life worse for the people of Minnesota.  One of the first items of business that Franken* undertook after being sworn in as Senator, was to add his name as a co-sponsor to the “Employee Free Choice Act.”  The title of this bill is very misleading because there is no freedom in it at all. 

“The act, backed by unions, is known to opponents as the card-check act. They say it would take away workers’ right to a secret ballot when they decide whether to form a union. Supporters say the act allows workers to use a secret ballot to chose a union or allow a majority of workers to sign up to make their choice. They say the act would level the playing field between workers and management.  The vote is expected to be close, and Franken’s presence in the Senate may help move the act forward.” Source: The Pioneer Press, July 7, 2009.

“Clearly he owes a lot of groups a lot of favors,” said David Schultz, a professor of law at Hamline University in St. Paul.  There are a lot of people who are assuming that he will be a reliably Democratic vote and a reliable vote for the president.” Source: MinnPost, July 7, 2009.

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65 Responses to “FRANKEN* CO-SPONSORS HIS FIRST BILL…TO TAKE AWAY YOUR RIGHT TO A SECRET BALLOT”

  1. Come Clean Minnesota Democrats Exposed | Minnesota Political Blog - Change We Must Fight For Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 4:10 PM

    [...] Dear Minnesota Demcorats Exposed, [...]

  2. chile Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 5:12 PM

    EFCA was one of many issues that Democrats didn’t like to talk about during the campaign: The reason being is that a private ballot is considered a fundamental right in a free country.

    Franken* is a stooge for co-sponsoring a bill that others didn’t want to attach their name to. Ironic for Franken*, is that his first bill has to do with voting. I guess he learned the value of rigging the vote, so he’s eager to now help out union thugs.

  3. Authentically Right Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 6:17 PM

    At least Republicans can console themselves that they didn’t stoop to the same kind of dirty tactics democrats use to WIN ALL THE TIME.

  4. Integrity Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 6:55 PM

    Chile-

    Why would Senator Franken rig the vote to be so close? You would think if he was going to rig something, he would rig it so there was no doubt that he won. There was no election rigging. Senator Franken won because he got the most legally cast votes. Ask any of the members of the three judge panel or the 5 members of the MNSC and they will confirm that for you.

    EFCA isn’t something that we didn’t want to talk about, and when asked, we talked about it in truths, not scary fairytales of union bosses beating people up and stealing their right to a secret ballot. We might not have talked about it to people running after us at parades with video cameras and asking us loaded questions, but when the people asked, and when asked in debates, we talked about it openly and truthfully. EFCA has never, and still doesn’t take away the right to a secret ballot. Read the bill over sometime and you’ll see that. Senator Franken has always maintained that he supports the rights of workers to organize in any way that they want to. Simple as that. I am proud to have my newest Senator, Senator Franken, co-sponsoring this bill.

    Authentically Right-

    Pay more attention next election cycle. Unless you consider darkening the face of an opponent to be upstanding politics, your guys are just as guilty as anyone of stooping to dirty tactics. The Democrats won because they had a real message of change and promise that the people of Minnesota and the nation believe in. They voted to not have business as usual. They voted to not have the conservative ideas controlling things any longer. We won because we had a better message and better candidates. We also didn’t have things like the war in Iraq, the economy, or George Bush weighing us down. You have nobody to blame for the landslide victory of the Democratic Party but yourself. People are tired of being told they should be scared of everything. They want real answers and solutions. Although many people here might not want to have anything that the Democrats want, the overwhelming majority of America does want those things, and that’s what matters most. Also, before you run to get the latest polls to show how “Obama’s numbers are in the sewer”; there is only one poll that really counts. It’s on Election Day. You guys should be focused on 2010 instead of continuing to sob over 2008.

  5. chile Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 7:08 PM

    Integrity, Franken* was behind on November 5th. His Ritchie rigging was more than enough to get the lead.

    Democrats avoiding talking about EFCA: Sure they did. It was Aswhin Madia who ran away from the question – look at the video and tell me who starts running first.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4JlB_vio3c

  6. Authentically Right Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 7:10 PM

    From the mouths of babes…”You guys should be focused on 2010 instead of continuing to sob over 2008.”

  7. chile Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 7:12 PM

    Thanks for the reminder Intrrgrity, I forgot to check the polls today. Obama = negative 5!

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

    Obama’s Approval Rating: In the Sewer~!

  8. DJZ Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 8:04 PM

    EFCA was not a secret. Didn’t the national republicans run commercials with Soprano actors (Johnny Sac)thanking Al for looking out for union bosses?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r267W0w3Veg

    How short are your memories? Conveniently short. It just pains you that Democrats laid out where they stood and won. You can’t say the people were hoodwinked. You have to face the fact that Republicans were rejected as much as Democrats were accepted.

  9. Integrity Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 8:19 PM

    Chile-

    Why would Ritchie rig the election to be so close then chile?? Why didn’t the canvassing board catch it? Why didn’t the three judge panel? Why didn’t the MNSC?? You’re conspiracy theory is getting old. How many people are involved in this so called “election rigging” conspiracy?

    Also, check out this part of my last post:

    “We might not have talked about it to people running after us at parades with video cameras and asking us loaded questions, but when the people asked, and when asked in debates, we talked about it openly and truthfully.”

    What about this video of Ashwin:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXZO1lD4saY

    Or this one:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4CQeSWZ52w&feature=channel_page

    Seems to me that Madia was more than willing to talk about it, even with the ambush guy there asking the loaded questions. Notice the guy in your video is the same guy as in the video I posted. That guy badgered democrats all over the state with the fairytale of EFCA taking away the secret ballot. You can say it all you want but it just isn’t so.

    Authentically Right-

    Why am I the baby? I’m not the one crying over the elections from last November. I’m not the one still crying over the Senate election that Senator Al Franken won fair and square. How do you get to the conclusion that we’re the ones who are babies?

  10. Authentically Right Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 8:20 PM

    “You have to face the fact that Republicans were rejected as much as Democrats were accepted.”

    That, or conservative Republicans saw nothing to vote for. No big difference between democrats and Republicans, why bother.

  11. Integrity Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 8:29 PM

    Are you saying the reason the Republicans lost is because their base voters decided to not go vote?

  12. Authentically Right Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 8:32 PM

    Basically

  13. Integrity Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 8:44 PM

    If that’s the case, then those people have nothing to cry about since they didn’t even participate in the selection of their leaders.

  14. chile Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 8:48 PM

    DJZ, it wasn’t a total secret, even though Democratic candidates would have preferred it that way.

    I remember that You Tube video and I also remember Democrat George McGovern criticizing this legislation: “Under EFCA, workers could lose the freedom to express their will in private, the right to make a decision without anyone peering over their shoulder, free from fear of reprisal.”

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121815502467222555.html?mod=opinion_main_commentaries

    How short is your memory? Conveniently short.

    This crap legislation is anti-labor and pro-union. The DFL is going to have to change to the DFU.

    Franken* is not only the “60 senator” for the EFCA, he co-sponsored the damn thing. Franken* needs to make sure that all the big unions who wrote him a campaign check are now getting a return on their investment. The EFCA will steal millions of dollars from workers’ paychecks and to fill the pocket of greedy union thugs.

  15. happydfler Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 8:51 PM

    * eliminates credibility. Sen. Franken is officially a senator. Five justices of the Minnesota Supreme Court – a majority of whom where appointed by a Republican governor – confirmed that. A Republican governor signed the election certificate.

    When Brodkorp ran this blog, he pissed people off, but he had as much, if not more, merit and credibility (as much as my fellow DFLers hate to admit that) as other partisan bloggers. Have some respect for the office that Sen. Franken won. Otherwise, this blog is truly just another rhetorical, partisan-hack rag.

  16. Authentically Right Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 8:57 PM

    He didn’t win it, he stole it. That’s why the *.

  17. Integrity Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 9:01 PM

    Authentically Right Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 8:57 pm

    He didn’t win it, he stole it. That’s why the *.

    And the DFLers are the cry babies? How long are you going to insist that there was some sort of elaborate conspiracy to “steal” this election from the GOP?

  18. chile Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 9:01 PM

    “Why would Ritchie rig the election to be so close then chile?? ” Franken* was behind, they only needed to add enough votes to get the lead.

    Ashwin was chased because he ran away. That’s a fact you can’t change. Madia lied when he said the right to a secret ballot woulldn’t be taken away. He then qualifies that by saying as long as 30% of workers demand a secret ballot. Why the hell should a worker need to seek 30% support for what is his/her fundamental right?

  19. Integrity Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 9:03 PM

    chile-

    As usual, you just don’t get it.

  20. Authentically Right Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 9:12 PM

    And the DFLers are the cry babies? How long are you going to insist that there was some sort of elaborate conspiracy to “steal” this election from the GOP?”

    Let’s see, how long did you guys whine about George Bush? About 8 Years? Aren’t you all still whining about the 2,000 election? Aren’t you still blaming every untoward event in the known universe on George W Bush?

  21. chile Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 9:15 PM

    happy dumbass, Franken* is officially Senator.

    The * in Franken stands for a long list of *s.

    * Elected, but we’ll never know who got the most votes because he and Ritchie effectively fought ballots from being counted.

    * Endorsed by DFL, even though he was caught cheating on his taxes in 17 states.

    * Endorsed by DFL, even though he failed to carry work comp for his employees.

    * Endorsed by DFL, because they were so impressed with Porn-o-rama.

    * Endorsed by DFL, because he is so witty when it come to making light of rape.

    * Endorsed by DFL, as they liked the way he tried to stiff a boy/girls club out of money.

    * Endorsed by DFL, because when he failed to pay his radio employees – he made sure he still was paid. They liked how he sets his priorities.

  22. chile Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 9:20 PM

    What don’t I get Intgerity? The fact that Franken*/Obama narrowed the universe of potential votes once Franken* had the lead? I get that.

    Or, that the EFCA takes away the guarantee of a worker’s right to a private ballot. I get that too.

  23. Authentically Right Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 9:20 PM

    Integrity, I think we wo get it. You favor those Soviet type elections.

  24. Authentically Right Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 9:22 PM

    Integrity, I think we do get it. You favor those Soviet type elections.
    (Typo correction)

  25. Integrity Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 9:33 PM

    MY GOD. Chile, I didn’t know that this election rigging thing really went all the way to the top. All the way to the OVAL OFFICE?? MDE should really get a story out about this ASAP. I’m sure you have all the proof in the world to back up the allegations, don’t you?

    You probably have about as much proof as Norm Coleman did in the courtroom. NONE.

  26. Chestnut Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 9:56 PM

    “How long are you going to insist that there was some sort of elaborate conspiracy to “steal” this election from the GOP?”

    Probably as long as you stupid mother fuckers complained about Bush/Gore…

    Probably as long as you fascists run around with Wellstone bumper stickers.

  27. chile Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 9:57 PM

    Sorry Intergrity, I meant to say Franken*/Ritchie

    I appreciate the fact that you would spend 60-plus words pointing out a simple error, this shows you care.

    As far as Obama, when do you think Blago/Burres, Blago/Emanuel, or Billy Ayers is going to come back to bite him in the ass.

  28. chile Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 10:02 PM

    WWWD? I don’t think even Wellstone wouldn’t have fought the way Franken* did to keep votes from being counted. Wellstone would no doubt be embarrassed by Franken’s* actions.

  29. DJZ Says:
    July 9th, 2009 at 2:30 AM

    Poor victims.
    Coleman got everything he asked for.
    He was ahead on the election night without opening absentee ballots. The switch was still in the absolute margin of era that was statistically probable.

    It wasn’t stolen.
    Your incumbent Senator failed to convince enough independent voters that he should be re-elected. Close but, no cigar.

  30. Integrity Says:
    July 9th, 2009 at 2:45 AM

    chile-

    This YouTube video should help explain your confusion about the EFCA bill:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV2rBOKhJ_E&feature=channel

  31. chile Says:
    July 9th, 2009 at 7:05 AM

    Integrity, the only thing I’m confused about is how someone can be as feebleminded as you.

    If, 50% plus 1 of workers sign a public ballot, that’s it, game over. A Union is formed with no private ballot.

    The only exception to the above, is if 30% of workers publicly petition for a private ballot.

    THE RIGHT TO A SECRET BALLOT ELLECTION IS NOT GUARANTEED!

  32. Flash Says:
    July 9th, 2009 at 8:35 AM

    “” He didn’t win it, he stole it. That’s why the *. “”

    Really . . can I play — President George W Bush*

  33. Integrity Says:
    July 9th, 2009 at 10:05 AM

    chile-

    You have to look deeper into the issues here. As it stands right now, when there is a secret ballot, the employer decides the terms of the secret ballot. Things like when and where it will be held. That means they can do things like:
    -Set the election date to be in the very distant future
    -Set the election for an inconvenient date and time so as to drive down the number of voters. This could be say 8:00am on December 25
    -Set the terms of the election such as where and for how long the election will take place
    All that this bill does is take the rights away from the employers and gives them to the employees when it comes or forming a union. The only feebleminded one here is you. I understand that you will never change your mind about EFCA. The difference is that I like to deal in facts, not fantasy and fear when I make my decisions.

    Also, on another note, the only people bringing up the Bush v Gore decision have been the Republicans here. Nobody is still crying about that, and people haven’t been for quite some time. The idea that the reason you are bellyaching and crying conspiracy about the race that ended with Al Franken as our Senator is absurd. Like your typical arguments seen here all too often, this one is no different: “well they did it so it’s ok for us to do it.” Grow up and move past the childish arguments; it would be a lot more fun.

  34. Chris Says:
    July 9th, 2009 at 10:43 AM

    Integrity,

    Even George McGovern has decried the EFCA because of the problems with voter intimidation and eliminating the secret ballot except under the most narrow circumstances. That’s facts, not a fairytale. You can read Senator McGovern’s op-ed on the EFCA titled, “My Party Should Respect Secret Union Ballots” here:

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121815502467222555.html?mod=opinion_main_commentaries

    If you have a problem with the employers setting the date, time and place of an election then deal with that issue. But don’t allow the unions to go around and literally hand out cards and watch while their memebrs sign them. If that’s not intimidation and peer pressure, I don’t know what is.

    As for Bush v. Gore, apparently you don’t read the comments here. In the last week not only has Bush been accused of stealing the 2000 election, he was accused of stealing the 2004 election and rigging Ohio and New Mexico. What a joke. I’m not crying conspiracy in the Franken election. But you cannot say that the Franken election was without serious flaws and that those flaws should be changed. When similar absentee ballots are counted in DFL metro counties and rejected in rural counties, we should all be concerned and we should reform the absentee ballot process.

  35. Flash Says:
    July 9th, 2009 at 10:51 AM

    “”But you cannot say that the Franken election was without serious flaws and that those flaws should be changed.”"

    I believe that we discovered some things we can change on our process, but I won;t go as fars as saying serious flaws

    “”When similar absentee ballots are counted in DFL metro counties and rejected in rural counties, we should all be concerned and we should reform the absentee ballot process.”"

    True, but the Right leaning court seemed to rule pretty convincingly that this was not the case, or at least not enough of a case to make a difference. Irregardless, Franken doesn’t deserve an ‘*’ any more or less then Pres GW Bush. They both won fair and square under the system that was in place and I honor and respect both of them and the office they hold/held.

  36. Chris Says:
    July 9th, 2009 at 11:57 AM

    Flash,

    A right leaning court? How do you come up with that??? When three conservative Justices were removed to be part of the canvassing board, you’re not left with a right leaning court. Al Franken is our Senator whether we like it or not. He deserves the respect for the office he now holds. But to say that the process wasn’t flawed and shouldn’t be reformed is a mistake.

  37. happydfler Says:
    July 9th, 2009 at 7:13 PM

    Chris,

    Only Chief Justice Magnuson and Justice Barry Anderson were on the canvassing board. Of the remaining five justices who heard Coleman’s appeal:

    1 was appointed by Gov. Carlson (R).
    2 were appointed by Gov. Pawlenty (R).
    1 was appointed by Gov. Ventura (I).
    1 was elected.

    All three R-appointed justices voted to confirm Franken’s win.

    I don’t deny the process was flawed, but Flash is right: Franken won under the system in place. It should be changed. Absentee voting should be less confusing (two envelopes, multiple signatures, originals and copies).

    Chile,

    The next time you say “angry liberal,” read this post, particularly the comments by chile.

  38. chile Says:
    July 9th, 2009 at 8:14 PM

    Integrity, so I proved you were wrong and you come back with this …

    “That means they (employers) can do things like:
    -Set the election date to be in the very distant future
    -Set the election for an inconvenient date and time so as to drive down the number of voters. This could be say 8:00am on December 25
    -Set the terms of the election such as where and for how long the election will take place”

    Bullshit, if they did NLRB would step in and take over. If what you say was true, why wouldn’t the EFCA simply just take away the “control” employers had over the balloting process, instead of giving unions the opportunity to eliminate it altogether?

    Under the EFCA … THE RIGHT TO A SECRET BALLOT ELLECTION IS NOT GUARANTEED!

    Are you still in denial of that statement? Yes or no?

  39. chile Says:
    July 9th, 2009 at 8:17 PM

    Happy dumbass, when have I ever used the term “angry liberal”?

    I prefer to use the term “hateful liberal.”

  40. Integrity Says:
    July 9th, 2009 at 10:08 PM

    chile-

    If those sorts of things weren’t happening, why would there even be a bill. The bill does exactly what you said; it transfers the power from the employer to the employees.

    Also, why have you gone from saying that EFCA takes away the secret ballot and now changed to that under EFCA the secret ballot is not guaranteed?

    If the employees want the secret ballot they get it. You can’t argue with that.

    I, like Seantor Franken, support the rights of workers to organize in any way that they want to. Why don’t you?

  41. Chestnut Says:
    July 9th, 2009 at 10:20 PM

    “The bill does exactly what you said; it transfers the power from the employer to the employees.”

    Currently, the employer and employees interests and power are balanced. EFCA transfers power out of both hands and places it with union thugs.

  42. Chestnut Says:
    July 9th, 2009 at 10:22 PM

    “If the employees want the secret ballot they get it. You can’t argue with that.”

    This is a patent lie. After union thugs intimidate workers into signing “check cards” employees don’t get a secret ballot (or any other kind) no matter how much they want it.

    EFCA is an fascist, dictatorial measure intended only to inflate unions that employees have been rejecting for over 15 years now.

  43. Chestnut Says:
    July 9th, 2009 at 10:23 PM

    “I, like Seantor Franken, support the rights of workers to organize in any way that they want to. Why don’t you?”

    Especially if they way they want to organize is by breaking knees, burning cars and threatening the lives of workers’ family members.

    I support democracy. Why don’t you?

    Suggest you change your handle from Integrity to Fascist Piece of Shit.

  44. chile Says:
    July 9th, 2009 at 11:04 PM

    Integrity asks, why is there a bill?

    Because many workers do not want to unionize and do not want to be forced to join a union. They do not want union bosses who negotiate away their jobs and they do not want to allow the unions to steal money from their paychecks.

    Both the current and proposed card check system allows for the pestering and harrassment of reluctant employees until they sign it. Under the current system, those employees would still have the option to vote “no”.

    Integrity, why are you afraid of guaranteeing a private ballot? Are you, or have you ever been, a member of the Communist Party? Yes or no?

    Now go back to comment #38 and answer that “yes or no” question. You continue to dodge the issue?

  45. danbrome Says:
    July 9th, 2009 at 11:13 PM

    chestnut..

    Integrity does not deserve to be insulted, when he honestly believes that EFCA is best for working people.

    Why don’t you show a little more respect for one of the good guys here. Even if you don’t agree with his politics, he comes from good stock and has a tremendous heart.

  46. chile Says:
    July 9th, 2009 at 11:15 PM

    Integrity Lies: “Also, why have you gone from saying that EFCA takes away the secret ballot and now changed to that under EFCA the secret ballot is not guaranteed?”

    I never said the former. I have repeated the latter. Integrity is a lying little bitch.

    “The reason being is that a private ballot is considered a fundamental right in a free country.”

    “Madia lied when he said the right to a secret ballot woulldn’t be taken away.”

    “Or, that the EFCA takes away the guarantee of a worker’s right to a private ballot. I get that too.”

    “THE RIGHT TO A SECRET BALLOT ELLECTION IS NOT GUARANTEED!”

    “The reason being is that a private ballot is considered a fundamental right in a free country”

  47. chile Says:
    July 9th, 2009 at 11:26 PM

    Liberal danbrome, Integrity is a liar and a Kool-Aid drinking liberal. “Fascist Piece of Shit” would be a great handle for her. Chestnut was only offering constructive criticism.

    Interity, the “Fascist Piece of Shit”, doesn’t give a rats ass about working people. She cares about forcing people to join unions; making big unions bigger so they have more money to spend on getting socialist-fascist like Obama and Franken* elected.

  48. Integrity Says:
    July 9th, 2009 at 11:40 PM

    chile, you really have it all figured out.

    You are scared of so many things that it’s a wonder you can even make it through each and every day. The communists, the fascists, the liberals, the homosexuals, the socialists, the terrorists, the Muslims, the union bosses, the union thugs, man, the world is a pretty scary place…

    Danbrome is right. EFCA is best for workers. You allude to the fact that the current system has problems. What is your solution? Or do you plan to stay hidden, paralyzed in fear of anyone or anything that might advocate anything different than what you are and what you think?

  49. chile Says:
    July 10th, 2009 at 12:00 AM

    Integrity, do you agree that the EFCA does not guarantee workers the right to a private ballot? Yes or no?

    “Danbrome is right. EFCA is best for workers.”

    Really, what about workers who get forced into union membership? Liberal danbrome, is an idiot. Mr. “503″ has no credibility.

  50. Chris Says:
    July 10th, 2009 at 12:18 AM

    Integrity,

    If there are employers who are manipulating elections, change the rules governing when and how elections take place. But don’t take away the right of workers to choose in secret whether or not they want to join a union. It’s un-democratic and un-American.

    The fact is that the EFCA is a payback to the unions who give hundreds of millions of dollars to Democrats. It has nothing to do with the workers. The union bosses make hundreds of thousands of dollars and are bound to make even more with more union workers. And Democrats stand to receive even more in campaign contributions and forced political action from the dues.

  51. chile Says:
    July 10th, 2009 at 12:32 AM

    Integrity is “un-democratic and un-American.” She’s even in favor of burning the American Flag, as is liberal danbrome?

    The EFCA will lead to an increase in union membership which is what Democrats, as union bosses will have more money to payoff the Democrats.

    What will the union bosses and Democrats do once companies close American plants and move overseas?
    Nothing to lose for them, it was money they never would have had it the first place. What about the displaced American worker?

  52. danbrome Says:
    July 10th, 2009 at 12:37 PM

    chile..

    “She’s even in favor or burning the American Flag, as is liberal danbrome”

    3 errors in 1 sentence:

    1.) Integrity does not favor burning the flag.
    2.) danbrome does not favor burning the flag.
    3.) Integrity is not a “she”.

    I suggest you quit flapping your mouth and do a little research before your rants.

  53. Chestnut Says:
    July 10th, 2009 at 3:50 PM

    “Integrity does not deserve to be insulted, when he honestly believes that EFCA is best for working people.”

    Yes s/he does… Integrity is a goddam lying fascist… like you danbrome.

  54. Chestnut Says:
    July 10th, 2009 at 3:51 PM

    “EFCA is best for workers.”

    The good news is that the workers disagree with you and oppose your fascist attempts to rob them of free elections.

  55. Chestnut Says:
    July 10th, 2009 at 3:53 PM

    Integrity should have said:

    “You [Leftists] are scared of so many things that it’s a wonder you can even make it through each and every day. The rich, the wealthy, the neo-cons, the Christians, the productive class, those who yearn to be free, the opposition, the workers, the unborn, the world is a pretty scary place…”

    Sorry you hate so many groups of Americans, Integrity.

  56. Chestnut Says:
    July 10th, 2009 at 3:54 PM

    “What will the union bosses and Democrats do once companies close American plants and move overseas?”

    They’ll look to the Obama administration to steal money from tax payers and transfer the property to those who didn’t earn it.

  57. chile Says:
    July 10th, 2009 at 6:53 PM

    Liberal danbrome, Integrity not only supports flag-burning, she did so on the Fourth of July.

    “They defended the symbol of our country, the flag, and they also defended our right as free American to burn that flag in protest.”

    You even spent part of your 4th assisting Integrity’s pro-flag burning rants.

    Our men and women in uniform wear that flag. It’s idiotic to say they do so protect you right to burn it.

    Right to burn the flag = pro-flag burning. Right to “choose” = Pro-abortion.

  58. danbrome Says:
    July 10th, 2009 at 10:25 PM

    Right to burn the flag = Protected right
    Right to “choose” = Protected right

    Ask the United States Supreme Court.

  59. chile Says:
    July 10th, 2009 at 11:02 PM

    You’re right Liberal danbrome, both flag buring and baby killing were made legal by the Supreme Court.

    The Supreme Court has also declared many aspects of affirmative action are not unconstitutional. I suppose you support that racist bullshit as well.

  60. Chestnut Says:
    July 11th, 2009 at 9:15 AM

    Of course he does chile… Democrats are racist, flag burning assholes.

  61. danbrome Says:
    July 11th, 2009 at 1:35 PM

    danbrome is not a racist, does not support flag burning, and is not an asshole.

    You guys love to ignore simple facts. I guess that’s how you get by.

  62. Proud Republican Says:
    July 11th, 2009 at 1:47 PM

    When we had the Great Depression the debt to GDP ratio was 9%. Today it is about 50%. It is estimated to rise to 75% to 80% within 10 years under the liberal stimulus fiasco. We are tapping out all our equity! Average unemployment in all socialist countries is high. At least 10% at the lowest. France averages 12%-14%. Unemployment in America will always be around 9% to 10%. This is what happens when people panic and put liberals in power. When the economy takes off (it will) inflation will spin out of control like Pandora’s box. Franken’s Senate seat will for years to come be seen as a symbol of Liberal overreach and demise. The democrats have amazingly blown an opportunity to develop a long term majority. What they did was move the Republican party to the left to a more moderate position. People wanted answers to healthcare and now that soon healthcare will be resolved (like Medicare part D) then people will see all the excess stupid spending as threatening to their way of life. Republicans offer the only reasonable alternative for long term stability. The financial crash just before the election panicked people. Now people have a better idea what a stupid idea all this stimulus spending was (by both parties and the Fed). I believe that many in the democrat party will switch or form a divisive split within their party. The liberal party has ripened very soon it will rot. Take my word. 2010 Republicans will gain seats in the house and senate, Norm Coleman will be governor of MN. By 2012 we will have a Republican President and hopefully a new Fed Chairman. Panic throws out the intellect and we need brave stable people handling the countries monetary system. The way Paulson then and the current Fed chairman acted was simple awful. Paulson especially.

  63. danbrome Says:
    July 11th, 2009 at 11:08 PM

    Care to mention a Republican candidate who can win with 40% of the vote?

  64. danbrome Says:
    July 11th, 2009 at 11:12 PM

    Seriously, what if the economy recovers by the end of 2011 (2 1/2 years out)? Does your GOP fantasy still happen?

  65. Focused on 2010 Says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 4:58 PM

    “if”. Good to see that even the far left does not have any confidence in Obama being able to do his job.

    Don’t worry danbrome we only have to suffer for 4 years before a real President gets elected.

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