12 Responses to “MINNPOST: Ellison defends Grayson’s controversial comments”

1. Hector Says:
   October 1st, 2009 at 5:03 PM

   Republicans feel they are the only ones who are allowed to use harsh rhetoric; that when Democrats use it, it’s somehow unfair. I find that curious.

2. chile Says:
   October 1st, 2009 at 5:07 PM

   Democrats feel they are the only ones who are allowed to use harsh rhetoric; that when Republicans use it, it’s somehow unfair. I find that curious.

3. Tim from Woodbury Says:
   October 1st, 2009 at 7:04 PM

   Chile, you are such a clever boy.

4. Average_Joe Says:
   October 1st, 2009 at 7:11 PM

   Republican’s are the only ones persecuted on the House floor for telling the truth (Joe Wilson). This clown outright lies and gets a pass.

5. Hector Says:
   October 1st, 2009 at 7:50 PM

   I don’t think there is anything unfair about harsh rhetoric.

6. Chris Says:
   October 1st, 2009 at 11:20 PM

   This is so typical of the angry left in America. If you don’t agree with them on health care, you want people to die. Of course the far left doesn’t have much credibility on health care considering barely 40% of the people approve of the health care bills going through Congress. Then again, why should the far left be trusted on anything? This is the same crowd that said they supported the War in Afghanistan (and not in Iraq) yet oppose sending more troops to Afghanistan today.

7. chile Says:
   October 2nd, 2009 at 8:55 AM

   Timmy, thank you for your insight.

   Hiram says: “I don’t think there is anything unfair about harsh rhetoric.”

   Fair or unfair really isn’t the issue. Is it now?

8. Hector Says:
   October 2nd, 2009 at 9:20 AM

   Fair or unfair really isn’t the issue. Is it now?

   Well there are a number of issues. Grayson is kind of a goofball, but in a public discourse where Democrats are accused of wanting to create death panels, there isn’t anything particularly extreme about Grayson’s rhetoric. What he is reminding us is that doing nothing is a very dangerous policy.

9. Chris Says:
   October 2nd, 2009 at 6:08 PM

   Hiram,

   You’re setting up a strawman again. Nobody is talking about doing nothing. But doing what the Democrats want is something we cannot afford and the public does not support. Republicans and Democrats could agree to a health insurance reform bill and get out of this debate with both sides claiming victory. Unfortunately, Democrats don’t want compromise, they want to control our health care system.

10. Hector Says:
    October 3rd, 2009 at 8:25 AM

    “Nobody is talking about doing nothing.”

    True. There is no end of talk. As far as compromise go, I am very open to it. But a couple of weeks ago, after months, and probably years of talking and negotiating, Max Baucus held a press conference to announce the results of all that effort. No Republicans joined him. Not one. The message that sent about Republican interest in compromise spoke very loudly indeed.

11. Chris Says:
    October 3rd, 2009 at 5:46 PM

    Hiram,

    Even Democrats say that Baucus’ bill is a piece of trash. Sen. Thomas Carper of Deleware said he won’t even read the bill because it’s one of the most confusing things he’s ever seen in his whole life. Baucus refuses to allow his bill to even be scored by the Congressional Budget Office. If the Baucus bill is so wonderful, what is there to hide and why is it so confusing?

    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/54930

12. Chris Says:
    October 3rd, 2009 at 5:48 PM

    P.S. Hiram,

    To use your new nickname, Hectoring Republicans is not compromise. There has been no effort at compromise by Democrats. As I said, we could do a bipartisan health insurance reform bill tomorrow that both sides could support. But insurance reform is not the goal here. Putting insurance companies out of business and putting the government in charge of health care is the goal of Democrats.

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